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Lascauxcaveman 02-17-14 07:31 PM

Some more build details on our Wet Coast Winter Refugee Redline Thirty, the dumpster darling we met back in post #90:

Alas, the original rear hub and the unusably rusty freewheel simply would not part ways, that amalgam of aluminum oxide and ferrous oxide being a stronger bonding agent than even True Love (or Krazy Glue). Sadder still, the original green anodized rear rim itself will not be staying with the project. The rim turned out to be pretty badly dented, otherwise I would just cut the spokes out and started out fresh with a different hub, because matching green ano rims is just so darn classy, but I've got a standby, a donor wheel from an early 90s Rockhopper that came in a rusted pile of free bikes I had to go fetch when a nice lady closed down her "thrift store". Hmmm... that Shimano SIS derailleur may be making another appearance in a future installment. This project is all about free parts. And it has a RED pulley! (Red means fast.)

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...t/photo-38.jpg
The good news? It was free. It's also fairly true and undented, and has a 14-28 Shimano MF-HG20 freewheel; an unexciting but reliable workhorse hailing from the exotic shores of Singapore. The bad news is, our workhorse barely spins, about 1/3 of the rust on that wheel have serious spokes, and the dork disc is weathered, cracked and chipped beyond salvage. :( [a moment of silence for teh dork disc] :(

The good news: the FW came off the hub with just a soupçon of PB Blaster and very little drama, and then very easily came apart for servicing with a gentle application of hammer-and-punch to the appropriate dimples (righty-loosey). The bad news is OMG IT'S FULL OF THESE TINY LITTLE GREASY BALLS, I MEAN, WHAT THE F#@&*^!!!??? (OK, I think those things might be important, try not to lose very many of them...)
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...t/photo-40.jpg

Working on an item like this reminds one that WD-40 is primarily a solvent, (really, it's only a lubricant in a secondary sense) and one is all the happier for it. Spray-spray-spray, scrub-scrub-scrub and about a half pound of greasy crud washes away like last month's New Years' resolutions.
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...t/photo-37.jpg

There, isn't that much better?
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...t/photo-36.jpg

Bholio 02-17-14 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by rhm (Post 16504287)
No! If he makes a PX10 into a clunker, he will be banned! If this contest inspired him to
save that bike, then it willl have served its purpose admirably already; but he mustn't make it into a clunker, that wouldn't be right at all.

My plan is to simply clean up and re-lube what is already there, and de-rustify what I can. And replace the tires and cables as needed. Then ride. No plans to restore it back to factory condition or specification, nor turn it into a fixie.

gomango 02-17-14 07:52 PM

I'm out.

My buddy said it was a MB-3.

I just received the pic from him and it is a MB-1!

I just PP'd more $$$ than this contest allows.

Good luck guys.

However, I will post pics of the bike in the vintage mtb thread.

oddjob2 02-17-14 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by Phil_gretz (Post 16500731)
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=364597

1988 World for free, after complete rebuild. $59 in parts into it, inluding the hoods (a luxury item on a flip). Perfectfor this challenge except: 2 sizes too small, and saddle would become a torture device.


Ohhhhhhh what a deal! Some genius here is hoping to get $300 for his WS.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/bik/4315422654.html

non-fixie 02-18-14 12:57 AM


Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman (Post 16503988)
Nice! That is some kinda Clunkertown street cred there, my friend. That simply cannot be bought, but must be earned, by the kind of hamfisted, bloodyminded ignorance and don't-give-sh#t attitudes we clunkerphiles come to expect from our POs. Plus, it's on the big ring, so it doesn't really matter. In fact, it probably shifts better, for not having to make such a big jump to get over them big pointy-thing whatchamacallits. Missing bolts means it's lighter, for performance.

Great start!

I like your thinking, Lascauxcaveman! I'll be removing at least one more bolt, as well as a handfull of spokes from the front wheel!

frantik 02-18-14 04:28 AM

$100 is too easy! how about $20 bikes?

lotekmod 02-18-14 08:57 AM

I will only enter this challenge if I can win this insane bike which I will ride exactly as-is:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111280405167...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Unfortunately I think the seller might be a bit, uh, off center. Go figure. I actually saw it listed the first time a week or so ago so I did a search on completed listings. Sure enough it sold for $60-something but somehow it's listed again from the same seller. I contacted him about a local pickup ($33 for shipping!!? How about $233!) but no response. Darn, if I could get this for $40 I'd be a serious contender, assuming I could ride it 100k which is questionable. I think the chances of actually obtaining the bike is close to nil.

rhm 02-18-14 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by lotekmod (Post 16505408)
I will only enter this challenge if I can win this insane bike which I will ride exactly as-is:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111280405167...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Unfortunately I think the seller might be a bit, uh, off center. Go figure. I actually saw it listed the first time a week or so ago so I did a search on completed listings. Sure enough it sold for $60-something but somehow it's listed again from the same seller. I contacted him about a local pickup ($33 for shipping!!? How about $233!) but no response. Darn, if I could get this for $40 I'd be a serious contender, assuming I could ride it 100k which is questionable. I think the chances of actually obtaining the bike is close to nil.

Hmm. If you figure out the bus fair from Philly to Reading and bid exactly $100 minus that, you can pick it up in person, ride it home, and you're good. Bring a tool kit.

lotekmod 02-18-14 09:48 AM

There might already be a full toolkit on there somewhere, it's hard to tell. A serious oversight if not. I already see the upgrade potential.

I really want this bike, but the seller has no feedback, doesn't respond to questions, and already has one incomplete transaction on this item. He probably thinks it's worth $200 but doesn't know how to set up a minimum price. I won't gamble with more than $40.

Riding it from Reading to Philly as-is would be the true definition of "epic ride".

oddjob2 02-18-14 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by lotekmod (Post 16505543)
There might already be a full toolkit on there somewhere, it's hard to tell. A serious oversight if not. I already see the upgrade potential.

I really want this bike, but the seller has no feedback, doesn't respond to questions, and already has one incomplete transaction on this item. He probably thinks it's worth $200 but doesn't know how to set up a minimum price. I won't gamble with more than $40.

Riding it from Reading to Philly as-is would be the true definition of "epic ride".

With that bike, the Shriners will bestow a fez on your head and you can be Grand Marshall!

rhm 02-18-14 10:13 AM

Is impersonating a grand marshal of the Shriners a misdemeanor in the state of Pennsylvania? That's a potential pitfall for sure. But riding from Reading to Philadephia is down hill and pretty flat if you stick to the river. On further examination of the photos, I see you'll need to bring tubes and tires with you, so you have to reduce your bid accordingly. Too bad!

I wouldnt trust any toolkit it comes with, not even the pump.

Lascauxcaveman 02-18-14 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by lotekmod (Post 16505408)
I will only enter this challenge if I can win this insane bike which I will ride exactly as-is:

Wow, aim high! Put some tires on it and I'd be happy to ride in your peloton, bro. Just promise not to turn on that huge yellow emergency flasher; give the whole paceline a seizure.

TimmyT 02-18-14 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by gomango (Post 16504351)
I'm out.
...
I just received the pic from him and it is a MB-1!

I just PP'd more $$$ than this contest allows.

You're not out, but you will need to find a different bike! We will want to see pics of that bike, so do post them when you start working on it.

dweenk 02-18-14 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by lotekmod (Post 16505543)
There might already be a full toolkit on there somewhere, it's hard to tell. A serious oversight if not.

I think I saw it. It was wedged between the umbrella and the pup tent, near the minnow bucket.

gomango 02-18-14 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by TimmyT (Post 16505777)
You're not out, but you will need to find a different bike! We will want to see pics of that bike, so do post them when you start working on it.

Likely not enough time.

I am now four deep in projects for myself including the MB1.

That's already too many.

Bholio 02-18-14 01:06 PM

First ride today after adding an old tube & speedo battery I had laying around. 5 miles. It works. Barcons are too stiff, but the shifting works. FD needs the cable a drop looser, it rubs when in low gear. I can apply lots of pressure on brakes but they don't stop well, pads probably dry. Tires somehow survived. I'm not used to the drop bar riding position, so was thankful for the turkey levers. Feels a bit small, but I can hopefully move the seat back an inch or 2.

That said. Fast bike. I tied 1 of my Strava PR's and was only 2 sec off another without really trying too hard, and without being able to shift effectively. I'm used to mountain bikes and hybrids with wide straight bars and index shifting.

Up up to $35 so far. And 5 miles.


Originally Posted by Bholio (Post 16503027)


Daveyates 02-18-14 01:38 PM

Removed

rhm 02-18-14 02:10 PM

^^Oh, man! But... oh, never mind about the clunker argument.

non-fixie 02-18-14 02:52 PM

5 days into the event and I finally managed to get the seat post out, using Kurt's method. This involves a bench vise, a big man, a limited vocabulary and a lot of square footage (there's entertaining video somewhere).

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e09a81f31c.jpg

I even managed to keep the seat post alive. I couldn't find a marking denoting the size, but it looks to be 26.4.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cc099254a6.jpg

Most of the parts can and will be used again. Which is good, because I need to be thrifty with the remaining $45.17. I need at least one tire, one shifter cable and five spokes.
And it would be nice to have some budget left, as the gel saddle looks like I am going to really want to replace it after 10 miles or so.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...70d6f72034.jpg

shoota 02-18-14 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by frantik (Post 16505047)
$100 is too easy! how about $20 bikes?

That's what I'm saying. I mean I got my '87 Trek 560 with full 105 for $75.

dweenk 02-18-14 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by Daveyates (Post 16506672)
My first job is remove the chrome, clean it, then put it back.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5537/1...e67203bb_b.jpg

They say Duco cement is good. :rolleyes:

Lascauxcaveman 02-18-14 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by Daveyates (Post 16506359)
They were attached to what looked like a Rene Herse frame. With my heart still not beating i had a closer look and it was a Rene Andre frame.

Holy macaroni! Even if it is the "wrong" Rene, that's pretty nice for 20euro. And I love those rando bars. I'll be pulling out a pair myself for my project, ones that were on a Schwinn LeTour I bought used in 1979. More pics soon.

noglider 02-18-14 08:29 PM

Man, this is getting so good!

There was a guy in New Brunswick, NJ who rode a bike that looked like the Reading bike. The imagination reels.

jish1969 02-18-14 08:40 PM

I just came back from the co-op with a 14-28T Hyperglide freewheel to replace the original 14-34T that had about 6 broken sprockets. While upside down in the livingroom it does appear to shift much smoother, lol. Cost-$2. I also wanted a bottle cage and they were all $1, so I had to pick up the one labeled Paramount! Total cost today with tax was $3.26. I am at roughly 86 bucks today and I am going to go back to the co-op on Sunday and wither get a 6spd rapidfire put on or a brad new chain. Right now I am leaning toward the chain, and that's 12 bucks, but either way this project is done on Sunday. Ill shoot some pics tomorrow.

oddjob2 02-19-14 09:37 AM

Prospective Clunker Entry B

Enough moola left over for a case of my favorite everyday wine!

When the local scrapper nearly ran my golden retriever and me down exiting an alley, he stopped to apologize. I noticed a 1/2 bed load of bike frames. I picked up a 1979 Super Le Tour frame and this Raleigh Technium 440 frame, $10 each. The Technium frame is bonded, aluminum triangle, steel stays and fork.

Pictured as found and as completed, for $43.59.

[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #dcdcdc"]
[/TD]
[TD]Technium 440[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #dcdcdc"]Acquisition Cost[/TD]
[TD]
$10.00
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #dcdcdc"]Front Tire[/TD]
[TD]
$0.00
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #dcdcdc"]Rear rim - parts bin[/TD]
[TD]
$15.00
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #dcdcdc"]Tubes[/TD]
[TD]
$0.00
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #dcdcdc"]Brake Pads[/TD]
[TD]
0
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #dcdcdc"]Bearings[/TD]
[TD]
$1.36
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #dcdcdc"]Cables[/TD]
[TD]
$4.40
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #dcdcdc"]Housing[/TD]
[TD]
$3.84
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #dcdcdc"]Saddle - junk pile[/TD]
[TD]
$0.00
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #dcdcdc"]BB[/TD]
[TD]
$3.00
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #dcdcdc"]Bar Tape[/TD]
[TD]
$5.99
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #dcdcdc"]
[/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #dcdcdc"] Total[/TD]
[TD]
$43.59
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


As Purchased
https://dl.dropbox.com/s/t2js7d7t95x...2012.52.56.jpg

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/69p9a4jxu4u...2011.11.24.jpg

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/adx8ojm1nhh...2011.12.57.jpg

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/j28psc23cma...2011.28.42.jpg

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/hcek0vbj1ga...2012.06.18.jpg

After - when that slick stuff under the tires melts and dries up a bit, I will dial it in and see if the too small frame can be made to fit.

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/qjhoqc1hszk...2011.00.48.jpg


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