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    ...one other thing that occurred to me.

    If you want to ride this but are uncertain of the BB maintenance and lubrication history,
    it's not unheard of to simply drip some relatively viscous oil in the BB bearings by sliding
    it in past the crank spindle, with the cranks in place. You can usually get by for a couple
    of months at a time using this method. Use 40 weight or Phil's tenacious oil or similar.

    Clean everything off the exterior when finished with solvent or citrus cleaner.
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    Wrapped some new red tape over the residue glue and it worked just fine! I stopped at a lbs free cycles and they were really excited about the bike and are going to help me get it back to great riding shape . They gave me two 700 X 23 120psi slicks. Is it okay to run these at just a 100? Should it be any problems with my older rims at higher pressure? They are clincher, and my rims are aluminum super champion, possibly original (1972-3). They cracked my freewheel loose, so re packed both campy hubs today.

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    Just make sure that you aren't using folding tires with unhooked rims, or you risk the chance the tires will blow off the rim (usually at an inopportune time). 23mm @ 100psi sounds about right or near the tire's limit. Check the sidewalls for a psi rating as it varies from tire to tire.

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    I know that's your bike and all, but PLEASE don't turn it into a god forsaken fixed gear!!
    It's getting rare to see a decent Stella in good original shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badge View Post
    They are clincher, and my rims are aluminum super champion, possibly original (1972-3). They cracked my freewheel loose, so re packed both campy hubs today.
    Some of those old Super Champions were hooked, and some not. I have one of each. Just check the inside of the rim sidewall and see. In any case, 120 psi is probably the max rating. Lower is OK, but be careful with any non-hooked rim, as Gaucho said. Are they wire bead tires, or other?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rootboy View Post
    Some of those old Super Champions were hooked, and some not. I have one of each. Just check the inside of the rim sidewall and see. In any case, 120 psi is probably the max rating. Lower is OK, but be careful with any non-hooked rim, as Gaucho said. Are they wire bead tires, or other?
    What do I look for on inner rim wall to determine whether they are hooked or not? I wasn't paying too much attention when I put the tires on but I will check whether they are wire bead or foldable when I get home this evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badge View Post
    What do I look for on inner rim wall to determine whether they are hooked or not?
    On a non-hooked-bead rim the inside edge of the rim will simply be flat. On a hooked-bead rim the inside edge will have a lip sticking inward all along the outermost circumference.

    A folding tire has a Kevlar (or similar) chord instead of a wire in the bead where it seats against the rim. They are significantly stiffer, hence can't be folded. A folding tire often comes from the shop in a small box, all folded up into a small package.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmuller View Post
    On a non-hooked-bead rim the inside edge of the rim will simply be flat. On a hooked-bead rim the inside edge will have a lip sticking inward all along the outermost circumference.

    A folding tire has a Kevlar (or similar) chord instead of a wire in the bead where it seats against the rim. They are significantly stiffer, hence can't be folded. A folding tire often comes from the shop in a small box, all folded up into a small package.
    Okay, so it appears that the wheels are not hooked. Also, my front tire is folding(kevlar bead) , and rear has a steel bead.. Would I be safer to look into a front tire with a steel, bead as well? I just got these tires for free, and they seem to have a fair amount of life left. Can a folding tire easily blow off an unhooked rim or is this a rare event??

    For now I have to ride my mountain bike anyways a its been snowing every day and then roads are a bit icy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badge View Post
    Can a folding tire easily blow off an unhooked rim or is this a rare event??
    A wire-bead tire can blow off a non-hooked-bead rim if it is inflated high enough. I had that happen on a bike that was just sitting in my back yard.

    In the old days good vs. better tires meant 60 vs. 70psi. Then they started making 90psi tires, 28mm. I ran those for years on old rims. Now they are listed as max pressure 115 to 120 for 25mm tires. These are what can blow off, in my experience. Of course we didn't have folding tires at all back then. If you run your tires lower, maybe 85 or less, you maybe okay. Be aware that heat makes the pressure go up. Also lower pressure raises the risk of snake-bite punctures.

    In the log run you should just pick up another tire, and in the longer run consider different rims which let you run whatever you want.
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    Certainly in most cases the bottom bracket bearings can be lubed from the outside, allowing some thick oil to drip in, down along the spindle with the bike laying down on the side.
    That should be good for at least a thousand miles or a year of use in decent weather conditions.
    ***EDIT: I see that 3alarmer beat me to this suggestion! I also use Phil oil, but in cold weather it flows most slowly!***

    So I would leave the cotter crank alone for now, it was installed correctly at the factory in almost every case I can think of.

    So likely a 1971 or '72 Stella, a nice find.
    Likely the Suntour derailer replaced a Campagnolo Valentino derailer, which would be for the (much) better.
    Campagnolo's Valentino rear derailers were good in name only, were somewhat of a disgrace to the brand.

    Tire pressure should be based proportionally on rider weight.
    For my 150lbs I run a 700x23 tire at mid-90's pressure.
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