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    It is a good excuse to do that. It is a bad excuse for saving money. I haven't seen any cheap rims or tires in that size. On the plus side, I haven't seen any lousy rims or tires in that size, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by echo victor View Post
    Oh, those are quite a nice matched set. Interestingly, they're both a much deeper blue than the either mine or Rob's (you can tell it's not just a trick of the lighting by the fact that yours have white elements to the decals where ours have black). Looks great with the white tape and light saddles.
    Thanks. I just need the 57 and 54.5 cm from 1984 and I'll have a complete set .

    The thing is that these don't show up very often, so when the 62 cm was offered for sale at a very reasonable price, I bought it. I liked it so much that when a few weeks later the 60 cm showed up, at half that price, I couldn't resist. Both are pretty much in original condition, including the bar tape!

    I think the 1984 Competition, Corsa and Scirocco may be the best-looking bikes Raleigh ever offered: sleek, elegant and classy paint jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noglider View Post
    It is a good excuse to do that. It is a bad excuse for saving money. I haven't seen any cheap rims or tires in that size. On the plus side, I haven't seen any lousy rims or tires in that size, either.
    Good point - the issue is that if I don't spend a bit of money, how else will I know whether 650B is right for me? I don't know of any LBS around where I could even test ride a bike with 650B rims (and, yes, then order the rims from them if I liked them). I guess that's always the issue...

    Quote Originally Posted by non-fixie View Post
    Thanks. I just need the 57 and 54.5 cm from 1984 and I'll have a complete set ...
    'Save your proofs of purchase, and collect all 4!' I'm curious about the measurements, actually - as I measure mine (granted, maybe I'm just not that proficient) I get about 58 cm center to center and about 59 cm center to top of top tube. So is the 60 cm size being measured from center to top of the seat tube (in which case it seems like that's the size I have)?

    Amazed you managed to get them in original condition. Turns out the seller I got mine from had another already, decked out in all Campy. Not sure if that was original or not, but its paint did appear to be slightly better.

    [edit]Meant to ask, has anyone who's got one (or two) of these noticed any issues with the strength of the fast-back/shot-in stays as Kurt mentioned in the linked post?[/edit]
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    The wheels I have on the Gran Course I bought used from a forum member, so they're out there. If you want new, these seem like a good deal for your basic 650B wheels:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/WHEEL-PAIR-6...item3a8bbce0ff

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    Quote Originally Posted by nlerner View Post
    The wheels I have on the Gran Course I bought used from a forum member, so they're out there. If you want new, these seem like a good deal for your basic 650B wheels:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/WHEEL-PAIR-6...item3a8bbce0ff

    That's really inexpensive! So tempting!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nlerner View Post
    ...these seem like a good deal for your basic 650B wheels...
    Thanks very much for the tip. Now I just need to see if I can remember my ebay login info...
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    Quote Originally Posted by noglider View Post
    That's really inexpensive! So tempting!
    +1 Looks like a nice deal. But I wonder if the low spoke count would come back to haunt down the road. No pun intended.
    Shouldn't be an issue for lightweights, like myself at 150lbs now. But loaded tourer....hmmm.
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    28-spoke wheels are definitely not all-purpose wheels. Maybe the seller has other versions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by echo victor View Post
    'Save your proofs of purchase, and collect all 4!' I'm curious about the measurements, actually - as I measure mine (granted, maybe I'm just not that proficient) I get about 58 cm center to center and about 59 cm center to top of top tube. So is the 60 cm size being measured from center to top of the seat tube (in which case it seems like that's the size I have)?

    Amazed you managed to get them in original condition. Turns out the seller I got mine from had another already, decked out in all Campy. Not sure if that was original or not, but its paint did appear to be slightly better.

    [edit]Meant to ask, has anyone who's got one (or two) of these noticed any issues with the strength of the fast-back/shot-in stays as Kurt mentioned in the linked post?[/edit]
    I'm not sure I actually measured them or just assumed the brochure was correct. Anyhow, the size is generally measured C-T, i.e. from the center of the bottom bracket to the top of the seat tube (except in Italy, where center-to-center is common).

    No seat stay strength issues.
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