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Old 02-21-14, 05:52 PM
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Is this a good colnago to try out?

I always want to try a Colnago but not something I can really afford at the moment. Saw this on Ebay, would this be a good one to try out. It is my size to begin with;

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Colnago-Supe...item3f311ef0f1
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I want a Colnago, too, and it's also my size, so I say NO! Just kidding. I'm not actually going to bid. But that auction might be worth a shot. The repaint along with the frame modifications may keep the true collectors & heavy hitters away. If those issues are not important to you, I'd say go for it. I'd want to see more/better close ups before bidding. Not that I have any reason to doubt the seller, but there are a lot of fake Colnago's out there and it's hard to make out the details from the few pics the seller provided. That said, it looks like a really nice, well-maintained bike.
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Is this a good colnago to try out?

Thats a nice bike. Din't think you will get it for $299. Should get quite a bit of interest. But you never know.
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to me it seems odd to take pictures soooooooooooo far away showing not one club or cutout all 4 pictures are placed to avoid identification .......I would ask to see more pictures
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I've lived in the area where he claims it was repainted for 18 years. Never heard of that bicycle shop. Tread with caution.
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Originally Posted by stingx
I've lived in the area where he claims it was repainted for 18 years. Never heard of that bicycle shop. Tread with caution.
The "soft focus" images, pro photo set up but not pro pixel density… the errors in the description… bad spelling, 29" wheel reference… too low a shipping charge… If I lived nearby this would be one to ask if local pick up and payment was acceptable and super low feedback… Risky business in my mind.
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I have concerns too about the bike, I looked up the bike shop in Ridgewood NJ and there is none there by that name, I even tried another spelling of the Quevas as Cuevas and nothing. Like another poster said I would request more up close detail photos, if you get no response that's your answer so don't even bid. As another poster mentioned If it's a real Colnago the drilling of the frame to internalize the cable is a bad thing for collectors and it would lower the value which is ok if you're willing to deal with that. If you get the photos and everyone determines the bike is legit then write down a max price you're willing to pay, knowing not to offer as much for a undrilled Colnago frame, and stick to that price no matter how stressed you get in the bidding, also don't put a bid in until the last 30 seconds of auction and bid your max amount you're willing to pay.

An after thought did occur to me, what if the drillings were done to repair frame damage?

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I've lived in the area where he claims it was repainted for 18 years. Never heard of that bicycle shop. Tread with caution.
It's a builder not a shop and I think he mis-spelled. Should be Cuevas.
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata
I have concerns too about the bike, I looked up the bike shop in Ridgewood NJ and there is none there by that name, I even tried another spelling of the Quevas as Cuevas and nothing. Like another poster said I would request more up close detail photos, if you get no response that's your answer so don't even bid. As another poster mentioned If it's a real Colnago the drilling of the frame to internalize the cable is a bad thing for collectors and it would lower the value which is ok if you're willing to deal with that. If you get the photos and everyone determines the bike is legit then write down a max price you're willing to pay, knowing not to offer as much for a undrilled Colnago frame, and stick to that price no matter how stressed you get in the bidding, also don't put a bid in until the last 30 seconds of auction and bid your max amount you're willing to pay.
It would be Cuevas, and the shop would be long gone. Cuevas built and did some refinishing, that part of the story line is the most reasonable….
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Maybe it's a tribute bike!
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That plus a whopping feedback score of "2", and ZERO as a seller. Deal at your own risk.

Myself, I would never be the first buyer from an ebay seller. Guy has been a member of ebay for FIVE years, and has no sales feedback….

Shipping is ridiculously low. No way it ships for that amount.

If you can pick it up locally, its worth a flyer, otherwise, BEWARE.
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W/o good pictures nobody will bid at that thing, specially with that feedback. Dumb seller

From far you can put any bike campagnolo stuff a colnago decal and say that was used by EM himself

Parts well worth the asking price tho.
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Too many things don't add up. It's likely a scam.
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Originally Posted by wrk101
That plus a whopping feedback score of "2", and ZERO as a seller. Deal at your own risk.

Myself, I would never be the first buyer from an ebay seller. Guy has been a member of ebay for FIVE years, and has no sales feedback….

Shipping is ridiculously low. No way it ships for that amount.

If you can pick it up locally, its worth a flyer, otherwise, BEWARE.
Hijacked account?
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Feedback of 2 means a low $ limit for sales...not sure what they are going for on this one. Will be interesting to see.
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Originally Posted by wrk101
That plus a whopping feedback score of "2", and ZERO as a seller. Deal at your own risk.

Myself, I would never be the first buyer from an ebay seller. Guy has been a member of ebay for FIVE years, and has no sales feedback….

Shipping is ridiculously low. No way it ships for that amount.

If you can pick it up locally, its worth a flyer, otherwise, BEWARE.
+1. I should've noticed the non-existent sales history. Could be legit, but I wouldn't want to be the one to find out. BEWARE is right.
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+ two, I didn't even look at the sellers record, at this point I would stay far away unless you could go there in person and meet the guy and see the bike.
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the pictures on the listing are only 1 inch by 1.5 inches which makes enhancement impossible but if that is a 1987 bike that clearly is not the correct fork
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Surely a scam/hijacked account.

The description format (almost to a T) matches countless ones I saw with 1 or 2 Feedback sellers trying to push high-end watches when I was in the market a few months back. The format is becoming very familiar-looking, and as soon as I look at the low Feedback count I just move right along.

There's a reason nobody has opened up the bidding, but I'll make a bold prediction: if bidding does start, by the end it will have reached an astronomical amount - which of course will then NOT be paid to the likely scammer

Seen this a few times recently, too.

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Not to pile on, but you rarely (if ever) see a bike of this so-called pedigree start at such a low opening price, especially with no reserve.

And yes, the lack of close-up identifying marks, such as the bottom of the BB or any club markings on frame and fork is troubling...
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Originally Posted by Giacomo 1
Not to pile on, but you rarely (if ever) see a bike of this so-called pedigree start at such a low opening price, especially with no reserve.

And yes, the lack of close-up identifying marks, such as the bottom of the BB or any club markings on frame and fork is troubling...
while I agree with the second part ...I must disagree with the first

if you have a 7 day auction you want as many people watching (bidders) that auction in the last few minutes as possible and the best way to do that is in a no reserve auction with a low starting bid ........
here is a perfect example a red colnago and the seller started off the auction at $1.00 and no reserve ...hmm as you put it " you rarely (if ever) see a bike of this so-called pedigree start at such a low opening price, especially with no reserve" but it is already up to $430.00 on 44 bids (and my program tells me there is 79 watchers) ..with this auction the last 2-3 minutes becomes a bidding frenzy because all those bidders have been staring at that frame in the watch list all week and no matter how high it is many will bid that extra 20 bucks just to see if they can steal it away from the other bidders

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI...m=111281207279

now on the flip side if you start the bidding out high like 424.99 like the colnago below is listed for nobody bothers watching it as it sits forgotton with 1 day left (less than 10 watchers) if he does get a bid it will only be 1-2

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Mid-...item1c3cb38008
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Heck, if no one bids, I will. Looks like a nice bike. Is this what we have become? What a cynical lot.

Oh, here's an idea. Ask to see more pictures. Communication?, na, jump on the guy, beat him down. Ebay rating of 2. Gotta be a fake. The punk.
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^ I call it a healthy dose of skepticism, and in this day and age it's a good thing. There's cynicism and there's being careful. In the big scheme of things, passing on something that seems not quite right is no big deal.

In any case, I'm basing my call on experience over the past few months. This auction is fishy, period; there really is no reason to waste time with asking questions because most likely they're not gonna get answered anyway.

Anyway, the bottom line is we're trying to help the OP out here by suggesting he be wary. If the OP wants to try to contact the seller, it's of course his right to do so.

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I'll mention this again.

If a forum member is really itching to buy a Super, our very own trusted forum member Vonruden has a gorgeous orange example available at a reasonable price.

I'm relatively certain he could give you any shot you want to determine if it is the right Super for you.
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Heck, if no one bids, I will. Looks like a nice bike. Is this what we have become? What a cynical lot.

Oh, here's an idea. Ask to see more pictures. Communication?, na, jump on the guy, beat him down. Ebay rating of 2. Gotta be a fake. The punk.
everybody on ebay had a feedback rating of 2 at one time
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