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    Cashiers Check or Money Order via fleabay?

    I have received an offer on a bike related item. I am normally skeptical of these offers on CL but have never gotten one from fleabay.........Would you?
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    Can you be more specific as to the circumstances and terms of the offer?

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    Deposit the check, and sit on the item for 3 weeks, to make sure it's good.....

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    Isn't it against ebay terms of service to use payment outside of ebay? I wouldn't trust a check or money order from a non local source (or a local one for that matter outside of the checks I take in for my business).

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    Google ebay money order scams. Google ebay cashier check scams. Those have convinced me to not bother.

    Here's a nice reminder on several scams: https://community.ebay.com/t5/The-Fr...s/td-p/2662626


    Realize successful scammers are good at their craft, can be very convincing. In addition, most of the seller protections are tied to using paypal.

    The internet has made it so easy for scammers to operate.

    Here's ebay policies on MO and Cashier's checks: Accepted payments policy

    If you read it, ebay does not allow sporting goods (bikes) and most other categories bicycle stuff could be sold in. Its limited to ebay motors, business and industrial and real estate categories. Violating ebay policies is asking for problems.

    As far as waiting three weeks for the check to clear, buyer can then claim item not shipped, get a refund from you, and then later, you find out MO or cashier's check is no good. Nice, huh?

    The scam starts with you taking payment in a non-standard way.
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    No way. Too much risk. Paypal only. On CL, cash only.
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    I take USPS or WalMart money orders only. I get 2 or 3 buyers a year who prefer that method of payment. Just tell the buyer that the item doesn't ship until payment clears.

    It is NOT against eBay policy to accept checks or money orders.
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    Back in the day when I was regularly selling things on ebay, USPS money orders and cash in an envelope were standard practice. I remember receiving more than a few cash payments (for substantial amounts) from Japan in non-descript envelopes. As far as I am concerned, USPS money orders are safe. I would not accept a check.

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    Money orders from USPS are cashable at any post office. I wouldn't accept any other kind.

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    Not unless the buyer is willing to wait for you to ship until after the check or money order has fully cleared your bank.

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    Presume this was an offer made via ebay messaging system when a buyer contacted you with a "question"?
    Careful don't let ebay see you accept it. They'll whack yer peepee.

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    I would not accept this. Trust your instinct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rootboy View Post
    Presume this was an offer made via ebay messaging system when a buyer contacted you with a "question"?
    Careful don't let ebay see you accept it. They'll whack yer peepee.
    Why?

    I only have 'Paypal' as a payment option. How are prospective buyers going to know I'll take a MO if they don't 'ask'? Its just a question. You either do or don't.
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    Isn't it ironic that in most Paypal threads Paypal is the big evil money mongering empire yet when its comes down to it Paypal is the safe way to accept payment?

    Am I the only one who finds humor in this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rootboy View Post
    Presume this was an offer made via ebay messaging system when a buyer contacted you with a "question"?
    Careful don't let ebay see you accept it. They'll whack yer peepee.
    Will they really?
    I'm still laughing my butt off on that reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miamijim View Post
    Isn't it ironic that in most Paypal threads Paypal is the big evil money mongering empire yet when its comes down to it Paypal is the safe way to accept payment?

    Am I the only one who finds humor in this?
    I'm with you brother.

    I don't mind off ebay offers, why not? It seems ebay doesn't care if I use their platform as a marketing tool, why should I?

    And if the check clears, money is money. I'd take bitcoins or wampum as long as it converts easily to cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citoyen du Monde View Post
    Back in the day when I was regularly selling things on ebay, USPS money orders and cash in an envelope were standard practice. I remember receiving more than a few cash payments (for substantial amounts) from Japan in non-descript envelopes. As far as I am concerned, USPS money orders are safe. I would not accept a check.
    I am happy you wrote that. For US domestic sales USPS money orders are pretty secure and were common practice. ebay has encouraged the use of paypal by making it very easy, and sold it with "buyer protection" where the competing methods don't work so well if at all. So, its not mandated I think, but essentially almost all else is excluded. It does have the added benefit for them that there is a good chance that shipments will be made quickly. (good luck if you are a seller who has their inbound funds held up for a period for some reason) ebay sold paypal pretty well, I even had a guy turn down cash with local pickup, he wanted the paypal first, before pick-up... So, I sent it right before a face to face transaction. I did get to save shipping... if he had been the savvy and opportunistic sort, he would have taken the cash and asked if we could cancel the deal officially...

    A check is interesting, I have had sellers accept a personal check, but we were both "known" quantities.

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    Apparently there are some bogus Postal Money Orders being passed. When I take a MO to the post office to cash it, the girl behind the counter holds it up to the light and generally looks it over real well. We also had some crooks using forged bank cashiers checks to buy used cars around here. They would buy the cashiers check for a small amount, bleach the $ amount and reprint that part for the big $$ purchase price. In one case the bank affirmed their cashiers check was good, only to reject it 3 weeks later.

    One time when I sold something to a customer in the Philippines, he sent me payment in cash USD in a birthday card. I've had other customers send me several hundred $ in cash, too, but we know each other and they "know where I live." Paypal is preferred but I accept anything.

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    Perhaps this is off-topic. Does ebay have a problem with someone paying cash if the seller is local? I've bought stuff that way, asked the seller, picked it up in person to save shipping, paid cash, gone back to the ebay listing and marked an entry somewhere for "paid", gave the seller good feedback. All up-and-up and a very satisfactory exchange for both of us,. I would have thought cash was still valid "legal tender".
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    Quote Originally Posted by miamijim View Post
    I take USPS or WalMart money orders only. I get 2 or 3 buyers a year who prefer that method of payment. Just tell the buyer that the item doesn't ship until payment clears.

    It is NOT against eBay policy to accept checks or money orders.
    Jim, check my link above if you want. Current policy does not allow MOs or cashier checks on bikes, except for local pickup.

    As far as paypal or ebay myself, I have regularly supported ebay and paypal on this forum, as it has allowed me to sell a lot of non-bike stuff at full market prices. Do I wish it was cheaper? Sure. But all of my other options cost more, or result in lower price.

    From ebay's policy page: "Make sure your listing follows these guidelines. If it doesn't, it may be removed, and you may be subject to a range of other actions, including limits of your buying and selling privileges and suspension of your account."


    On the not allowed list:
    "Sending cash through the mail
    • Sending cash or money orders through instant, point-to-point cash transfer services (that are not banks) such as Western Union or MoneyGram
    • Mailing checks or money orders (except for items in categories specifically permitted)"

      Specifically permitted list is the one I referred to above: ebay motors, business and industrial, real estate
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    Calling it fleabay is so witty and clever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Bois View Post
    Calling it fleabay is so witty and clever.
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    I was pretty sure it was against ebay policy to do a deal outside of ebay. I'm also pretty sure they don't want you using their website as a "marketing tool".
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    Quote Originally Posted by shoota View Post
    I was pretty sure it was against ebay policy to do a deal outside of ebay. I'm also pretty sure they don't want you using their website as a "marketing tool".
    Really? Then they should charge me to advertise on their site. And they should disallow ending a listing. They don't in either case.

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    a Post Office money order is the safest thing there is. insist on that if he wants to go that route. the big bonus is paypal cant take their cut from that

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