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Old 03-11-14, 08:25 PM   #1
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Schwinn, Univega, or Specialized?

So After destroying my Wheeler road frame last weekend I'm suddenly in the market for a new frame. I had bought the Wheeler from a local guy with a large building full of old bikes. So when I broke it I went back to see what else he had tucked away. Because I am looking for something pretty specific (lugged steel, down tube braze on shift bosses, 700c, recessed brakes) I only had three frames to choose from. The first thing he showed me was a gold Univega that I didn't catch the model of. Next he had a Schwinn Tempo that seemed to be from the late 80's. And last he showed me a Specialized Allez that looks to be from 84-87. He said he would let the Univega or Schwinn go for around $120 but the Allez he wants closer to $300. I'm really partial to the Allez but don't want to pony up that cash. I'm going back next week to look again and see if he would trade or something. I'm going to look a few other places too before I make a decision. How do those Univega's and Schwinn's stack up to the Specialized though?
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Old 03-11-14, 08:39 PM   #2
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I'd be highly interested in the Schwinn Tempo at that price, especially if the guy does a good job of servicing the bikes before his sells them. Are the bikes all tuned up with good tires etc.?

They are probably all good bikes but for some reason the specialized doesn't appeal to me.
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I think he's talking about just the frames, not the entire bike. What's the condition like on them?
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I like my late 80's Supra Sport Univega. Japanize made frame, CoMo straight tubes, alloy wheels and parts. Not a feather weight... but not heavy. But the tires are 27".
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I think he's talking about just the frames, not the entire bike. What's the condition like on them?
Oh I See! your right, I didn't read carefully. No wonder the bikes sounded like such a good deal
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The Allez was Specialized's top of the line, flagship bike.

The Tempo was an upper midline bike.

Univega had a pretty full line, from entry level to Miyata built, class A machines.
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Here are some Tempo viewpoints.
1985 Schwinn Tempo

I have a 1987, haven't put anytime on it, but if it is anything ike my older Super Sport, it will be a very nice ride.
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I have a 1987, haven't put anytime on it, but if it is anything ike my older Super Sport, it will be a very nice ride.
Mine is a CL find. Originally I just wanted a project bike. Now it is my back-up ride. Extremely comfortable and fast.
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I believe a Tempo is the same frame as a Super Sport but with fender eyelets. I recently acquired a 86 Tempo to keep my 87 Super Sport company. I say get the Tempo.
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I am only looking for frames. The Univega is just a frame fork and headset. The tempo has handle bars and a crank. The allez is nearly complete. The parts on them are not important to me as I have a Ultegra/DA group for it. The paint on them is rather faded but they are dent free and relatively rust free. Looks like you guys would go for the Tempo, I think he mentioned it had Columbus tubing. I like the Allez because I had a '95 Allez sport not long ago and really liked it, a cracked top tube retired that frame sadly.

The other side of this is that I am short on cash and I am hoping to trade a '99 Rockhopper FS A1 that needs a seat post and seat but is otherwise in fine working order (damn thieves). I'd be a little sad letting that go for the equivalent of $120.
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The Tempo has Columbus Tenax double-butted 25CrMo4 (4130) chromoly main tubes (seat tube is 0.9mm straight gauge), and chromoly stays and fork blades. Of the three, it would be my choice.
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@seanpatrick, not Irish descent of course, have you checked what's available on the trade and for sale threads here? What size frame and where are you located. The guys here may be able to help you too.
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I live in the the San Francisco bay. I'm six foot and should need a frame 56cm or bigger.
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The Allez was Specialized's top of the line, flagship bike.
The Tempo was an upper midline bike.
Univega had a pretty full line, from entry level to Miyata built, class A machines.
Yeah without the model name, "Univega" means almost nothing here, except it's definitely not junk

Tempo, late 80's is IMHO better than just "upper midline." This could be the one. Although, the Allez with more bits at even twice the price could be a better value. Depends on how many more bits you need to complete it. If you're talking bare frame vs. bare frame, the Tempo is a much better deal, $150 vs. $300.

BTW, which one of these is closer to your ideal size? That should be your first consideration.
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Tempo, late 80's is IMHO better than just "upper midline." This could be the one. .
I totally agree the Tempo is a great bike- Just looking at the tubeset (Tenax vs SL/SP) and components (Z series vs Superbe or 600) that's why I said upper midline.
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I wouldn't let that Rockhopper go so cheap. Get a saddle and post on it, ride it and save up your $$$ for the frame you want in size 58cm.
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I have the 88 Tempo frame. No eyelets and race geometry. I vote Tempo.
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I am a bike flipper and no one has mentioned the Univega. I have had a couple of the high end models and they weighed the same as Centurions ironman frames. Tempo is nice but the Alex is much lighter. Tempo is about 3 ounces lighter than a regular Schwinn 4130 frame. I expect the high end Univega and Centurions came from the same builder. I do not know the tubing on the Alex but mine is lighter than a tange one Centurion.
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