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Old 03-12-14, 06:34 AM   #1
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Can you help me ID this frame?

Afternoon all. I wondered if you could help me ID this frame. I picked it up for 20, it was advertised as a 650c 50cm steel frame. Only markings are Davis Components 64 61 on the bottom bracket along with a number 2 where the BB meets the down tube and the code 83464 on the rear left dropout. It has unusual conical seat stay ends and pump pegs on the down tube. Thanks for your help, Kat.

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Old 03-12-14, 06:39 AM   #2
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Looks like an older 3spd frame to me... sorry I know that isn't much help the lugs look sort of raleighish but those chevrons on the fork crown are very schmool (that is way better than cool)

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Just had a look at some pictures and that sounds about right, i only bought it for fork crown

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are blades d-section? cannot quite tell from photos. if so, would be an aid to dating the era.

you could check threading of steerer and shell, would expect british. curious to know if 24 or 26 tpi. might be an additional clue...

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My money's on 24 TPI. Looks more like Birmingham than Nottingham.
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Raleigh used a fork crown like that on their "Rudge" line. The fishtail lugs are an early feature, so ca 1950 or earlier. If you're in luck, it may prove to be a Rudge Pathfinder, which is like a Raleigh Clubman.
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have seen that fork crown cap previously; just can't recall where.

like rhm's suggestion that it could be a "hand."
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Don't have the tools to release the fork here so here's some more pics. I did a few measuements, seat post diameter is 25mm and steerer tube is 22mm Rear axel diameter is 126mm.

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puzzling numbers. 25.0 pillar size sounds plausible. 22.0 steerer sounds odd. iirc that is a metric juvenile size. were you measuring the outside diameter of the steerer? are you making measurements to the nearest whole mm, and not to tenths of a mm?

thank you for the additional photos. seat stays appear to be pinned to seat lug rather than brazed. is that the case?

it is growing curiouser...
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Have found the fork crown on a BSA wayfarer and a 1959 BSA Raleigh

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0-29-79iyg...0/IMG_3021.JPG

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After further investigation I think it may be a BSA Star Flyer youth size.

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excellent detective work!
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I did a few measuements, seat post diameter is 25mm and steerer tube is 22mm.
I would assume the seat post is 25.4 mm (1"), steerer tube is 22.2 (7/8") mm inner diameter and 25.4 mm (1") outer diameter.
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