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    Some Facts for You All????

    FYI....

    Want To Live A Healthier Life? Here Are Some Facts To Consider.

    All good on Two Wheels...Think healthy, drive less and pump some steel...

    Cheers, Jeff S.

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    I don't mean to be contrary nor to rain on your pro biking parade. But sometimes things like this can be so misleading and even judgmental.

    For instance, this is the final slide. It emphatically states bike "will have...," but not if you slip on sand left over from winter and bang up your knees and can't ride for a month (which happened to me last May). Many of us can fill in our own blanks about how cycling negatively impacts health and well being. Of course this is true for any activity.



    Or consider this one:



    The bottom part of the slide reports that biking as children reduces the chance of being an obese adult by 48%. I guess that it also means that there is a 52% chance of being obese as an adult if you cycled a great deal as a child. This describes me very well. I biked a great deal as a child, a teen, and young adult. Didn't bike much in my 30s. But picked it back up in my early 40s and ride now more than ever as I close in toward 60. Yet according to my Doctor's BMI Charts, I have basically been obese for more than 90% of my life.

    As in all things, balance truth and reality against hype and propaganda. And didn't even touch the issues about the environment.
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    Man, Bob…..you're a real downer.

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    I'm usually suspect of this kind of stuff too. Even though I think it is well-meant, it smacks of something that puts me off, for some reason.

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    I biked a huge amount as an adolescent and young man and I am overweight now. I wish I had the time to put in the miles I did then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh View Post
    The bottom part of the slide reports that biking as children reduces the chance of being an obese adult by 48%.
    Not quite... It says it reduces the chance of being an obese adult by 48%, not that the chance of being an obese adult is 48% about people who rode bikes as children. If the overall population has 35% odds of being obese as adults, that fraction of the population that rode bikes as kids has a 48% lower chance than that of being obese, or 18%. Using round numbers, biking as a kid cuts the chance that you will be obese as an adult by about half. Them's pretty good odds.

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    "...lowered their risk of death by 40%"??? I would have thought it was one each, pretty darn close to a certainty in this life at least. I'm being silly, of course, but a sense of perspective is always good.

    What I'd like to see is people beginning to understand that the few of them that drive, the lower my risk of death. But of course there is no motivation for them in that statistic.
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    Looks like something turned out as newsletter filler by some marketing company.

    It is unfortunate that statistics are thrown around with no effort to understand, let alone explain what they mean. "Those who biked lowered their risk of dying by 40%" is idiotic. Your likelihood of dying is 100%. No exceptions.

    Nearly all the statistics on those pages are the equivalent of "Final score: Yankees 3".

    Citing meaningless statistics ticks me off, especially when I agree with the sentiment.
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    Now…why couldn't I have said it as eloquently as did Mr. Aixaix there?

    Thumbs up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rootboy View Post
    Man, Bob…..you're a real downer.
    I have a bad head cold while in CA. I guess I was a bit surely.
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    People reading this forum are already cyclists, and don't need to be preached to about it.

    The smugness and condescension, not to mention the abuse of statistics, behind this campaign are enough to make me want to go buy a gas-guzzler.

    If I want preaching in this forum, I'll ask Pastor Bob.

    Aside from that, have a nice day!
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    Plenty of blobs of cardiac arrests and diabetes waiting to strike here at the most bicyclized economy in the world. You can't change human nature and it's love micky D by just putting those naked apes on bikes. They'll just use those bikes to get to the drive thru.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh View Post
    I have a bad head cold while in CA. I guess I was a bit surely.
    And I thought you were grouchy cuz it's Lent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Italuminium View Post
    Plenty of blobs of cardiac arrests and diabetes waiting to strike here at the most bicyclazid economy in the world. You can't change human nature and it's love micky D by just putting those naked apes on bikes. They'll just use those bikes to get to the drive thru.
    What's "bicyclazid"? And who you calling a naked ape? You got statistics to back this up?
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    Poor gl1000, the Original Poster. It may seem like we are dumping in him. I'm sure it isn't meant to be that way.

    Hey gl, welcome to C&V! Bunch of cranky old C&V people, we are, aren't we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh View Post
    I have a bad head cold while in CA. I guess I was a bit surely.
    Wouldn't that make you SURLY as opposed to being certain. And don't call me Shirley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aixaix View Post
    What's "bicyclazid"? And who you calling a naked ape? You got statistics to back this up?
    Whoops, I meant bicyclized off course! And Desmond Morris calls you a naked ape.

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    ***LUNK ALERT LUNK ALERT***

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    Personally, I don't find it preachy. I do think the "Those who biked lowered their risk of dying by 40%" is quite silly.

    Pollution is bad. Being overweight is less healthy than not being overweight. Exercise is better than being sedentary. Just is. And judging by the looks of some things out there, not everyone is listening to their preacher.

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    I assume part of the 40% lower figure considers Denmark has nicer bike amenities than my local potholed, gravel shouldered, sand covered roads complete with cappuccino slurping soccer moms gabbing on their cell phones.

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    From the comments so far, I would say that it has been a long, irksome winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paramount1973 View Post
    From the comments so far, I would say that it has been a long, irksome winter.
    That is long from being over in my part of the USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paramount1973 View Post
    From the comments so far, I would say that it has been a long, irksome winter.
    Quote Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh View Post
    That is long from being over in my part of the USA.
    Hang in there Pastor Bob. We're headed for the Vernal Equinox, the weather has to break sometime. IT HAS TO. IT JUST HAS TO OR I AM GOING TO FREAKING GO INSANE.

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    FACT: Everyone who has ever ridden a bike has DIED, or will die, in the next century, or two, maybe three at the most. 100 PERCENT.

    FACT: NOBODY has ever died while in bed with Scarlett Johanssen. NObody, not ever. (That we know of.)

    LOGICAL CONCLUSION: Riding a bike is 100% FATAL. Spending all your time in bed with Scarlett Johanssen is MUCH safer than riding a bike, and possibly may make you immortal. Or possibly just feel that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rootboy View Post
    I'm usually suspect of this kind of stuff too. Even though I think it is well-meant, it smacks of something that puts me off, for some reason.
    These things can ring of over-selling... they can sound/read as pushy. But... that said.. I have some really great personal experiences with cycling and altering my lifestyle. I cycle a lot... and I have a 20 minute daily resistance/dumbbell workout routine (that includes some calisthenics). It has made a huge difference in my general health.

    The weather is supposed to be nice this Friday. Will I get ran over by someone texting and driving? Maybe! I don't know what the future will bring. I am older now and retired. I try to plan as if the wife and I will live forever.... and live like we might die tomorrow. I like the healthy lifestyle. I find it has daily rewards. I don't have to wait for some future date to receive the benefits of todays activities.

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