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Old 03-14-14, 05:12 AM   #1
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is this a legit Gios Torino Super Record?

hallo C&V

i want to pickup a deal in the internet for a gios torino super record from +- 1980.
but i'm not sure if the bike is a fake or a real one.
first thing is about the parts in the frame. here is the seller description about the bike

Size 56.5 c-t (bottom frame stamp 56)
A few small rust spots and damage.
Sold without the Gios Gios 1R stem and gear that are in my other two ads.

-Suntour Superbe Pro groupset (index shifting)
Campagnolo crank-Grans Sport
-Campagnolo Super Record hubs and quick releases
-Wolber rims (half-height)
-Stainless steel spokes
3ttt-stem and handlebar
San Marco saddle

as long as i know gios torino should be equipped with campagnolo groupset.

second
the position of the coin i think is a little bit odd. but i dont know for sure because this is my first gios torino.
maybe its not to clear because i dont have a clear photo of the coin. but i hope you guys can still see it.

third
there is no decal in the fork

i hope you guys can help me.
and also how much does it cost ( approximately )

here is the photo from the seller





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Old 03-14-14, 05:27 AM   #2
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Welcome to Bike Forums! The Gios looks like a Super Record, has the Gios coins on the fork crown (at least that's legit). Take a photo of the bottom bracket, should have cut outs GT or other indications that's related to Gios, and will have the size and serial number. As far as I can tell it appears to be the genuine article and a very nice bike. Gios's don't come standard with Campagnolo parts, most Gios's are sold as a frame and fork and the new owner or bike shop add the equipment to the frame.

Here's a picture of my 85 Gios Professional:

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some more information here and have a look at the Super Records listed in the Register
The photos in the Register are of the key areas of the frame which are distinctive to the Gios Torino frames.
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My 85 Gios Pro is registered with Gios of Italy:
http://www.giostorino.it/images/stor...ostorino30.pdf
Since the son's of Alfredo have separated from the original company, it's now called "Giostorino". The original company is now making Gios in the far east, and Giostorino is made in Italy. You can email Marko "info@giostorino.it" for additional information with the serial number, they are great people!
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some more information here and have a look at the Super Records listed in the Register
The photos in the Register are of the key areas of the frame which are distinctive to the Gios Torino frames.
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thankyou so much for the reply.
here I get the photo of the bb.

is this legit?

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It's a real life early 1980s Gios Super Record frame & fork. Those decals look like poor reproductions though.
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It's a real life early 1980s Gios Super Record frame & fork. Those decals look like poor reproductions though.
yes i also mentioned that one. is it possible that the frame its not original colour? the decals also?
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yes i also mentioned that one. is it possible that the frame its not original colour? the decals also?
With digital photography, file compression and variations in everyone's color computer monitors, there is really no way to comment on the color other than it looks opaque blue.

Gios Blue is very hard to match at least here in the USA. I have found a formula and have two frames that require repainting so when I get to it I will buy the paints and do a spray out to a color match to an original finish Gios I own.

Most repaints are not dark or intense enough I have found. Gios Blue is a High Chroma color.

Gios did make tins of touch up paint available at one time, the last USA importer did have some but it has been so long now that even if they had it still hidden in inventory is would not be a good idea to use it.

I am not sure if those graphics are reproductions, a bit too much polish or sunlight over the years and things happen. Earlier bikes had varnish fix graphics but the 80's bikes had vinyl that way silk screened, one would have to look very closely in person and possibly with a loop to see how the ink was applied to comment.
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With digital photography, file compression and variations in everyone's color computer monitors, there is really no way to comment on the color other than it looks opaque blue.

Gios Blue is very hard to match at least here in the USA. I have found a formula and have two frames that require repainting so when I get to it I will buy the paints and do a spray out to a color match to an original finish Gios I own.

Most repaints are not dark or intense enough I have found. Gios Blue is a High Chroma color.

Gios did make tins of touch up paint available at one time, the last USA importer did have some but it has been so long now that even if they had it still hidden in inventory is would not be a good idea to use it.

I am not sure if those graphics are reproductions, a bit too much polish or sunlight over the years and things happen. Earlier bikes had varnish fix graphics but the 80's bikes had vinyl that way silk screened, one would have to look very closely in person and possibly with a loop to see how the ink was applied to comment.
okay. maybe i should take a look at the bike.
what do you guys think of how much this bike cost?
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