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Old 03-15-14, 10:32 PM   #1
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27 1/4" wheel replacement

I have a 1980 Sekai road bike I like a lot. (I have to stop calling it old because it's only 5 years older than me.) I crashed it a couple times and the rear wheel is significantly out of true. I know enough about bikes to change the tires and lube the chain, which is not a lot of knowledge. Last time I got a tune up the mechanic said he couldn't get the rear wheel more true without stripping out the nipples. Also, I had a broken rear axle and had the hub rebuilt a couple years ago, but the cones didn't match perfectly. So I'm pretty sure I should just buy a new wheel at this point. Also, I don't really have a lot of money for this project.

I can get the same vintage Araya rim new on craigslist for $10. I know I need a new hub & spokes and someone to build the wheel for me.

I can get this wheelset Amazon.com: Wheel Master Weinmann LP18 Wheel Set - 27" x 1.0", 36H, QR, 5/6/7-Speed, All-Silver: Sports & Outdoors but I need to get new tubes because mine are schrader.

Other ideas?
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Old 03-15-14, 11:15 PM   #2
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Rear wheel 27 x 1 1/4 Shrader valve- Amazon.com: Wheel Rear 27 x 1-1/4 Silver 36H: Sports & Outdoors
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^ I'd suggest going that route- you can wait for a set of 27s to pop up on CL, but you never know what they'll have been through.

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If you are resourceful, the used route is a great way to do it as people routinely dump their 27 inch wheels. But if you don't want to go that route, the cheaper ones from Niagara are a decent choice. Need to know whether you have a nutted rear axle or quick release. Presta valves are the only way to go.
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Over the winter I bought 4 wheelsets from velomine Wheelsets Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
Good prices and quality. Check their close outs as well.
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And no need to change tubes if you are on a budget. You can always drill or use rimmer to enlarge nipple hole to accept Schrader
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Be sure to get an alloy vs steel rim.
Some of the wheels listed state alloy HUB, but really don't specify the rim material.
A Presta valve hole can be enlarged with a 21/64" drill.
Else, you can get a Presta to Schraeder adapter for about $2 at your LBS to use Schraeder pump heads.
Amazon.com: Slime 23042 Presta to Schrader Valve Adapter: Automotive

AS a side note-
I've purchased just ONE of the low cost wheels (front) for a CL flipper I was working on. The wheel was simply cheaper than I could buy individual parts for.
The bearings were too tight and had an absolute minimum of lube. It looked like they had a thin coat of spray lube that "dried".
Spokes were 2mm shorter than they should have been.
Although the wheel was "true", exactly 1/2 the spokes had too little tension, while the other 1/2 were where they should be.
It was every other spoke per side, which inferred to me that they were "robot trued".
Whatever you get, pluck the spokes and listen. They should all have the same tone per side on the rear (DS spokes are under noticeably more tension, so will have a higher pitch). Front should ALL have the same tone on both sides.

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Else, you can get a Presta to Schraeder adapter for about $2 at your LBS to use Schraeder pump heads.
To put a larger valve stem into a smaller hole? How do they do that?
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To put a larger valve stem into a smaller hole? How do they do that?
He's talking about one of these



EDIT: Ahh wait I see what your saying, i think he got mixed up and was still referring to the pic above though.
DOUBLE EDIT: Although they do make these so you could go the other way too
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DOUBLE EDIT: Although they do make these so you could go the other way too
That is very cool. Do you have a good source?
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I've been happy with Velomine, specifically these: Sun CR18 27 Inch Wheelset freewheel LOW FLANGE hubs 36 H w QR [72274726665]

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EDIT: Ahh wait I see what your saying, i think he got mixed up and was still referring to the pic above though.
Actually I was referring to that fact that OP seemed to want to save money by not having to buy new tubes. And the fact that if he was going to go that route he wouldn't need to worry about having the small Presta hole in the rim, and thus no need for an adapter except to fit a Schrader pump head. (We use an adapter like that to fit a pump head.)
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That is very cool. Do you have a good source?
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I can get the same vintage Araya rim new on craigslist for $10. I know I need a new hub & spokes and someone to build the wheel for me.

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Yeah I got an idea. Buy the rim , and swap out the rim. Loosen all the spokes from the old wheel and then transfer the spokes to the new wheel one at a time. You sort of lay the new rim on top of the old one and go spoke by spoke and transfer the new rim onto the old wheel.

Its very easy. Tighten up the spokes and take the wheel to the bike shop and have them finish it off. Bike shop should be able to dish it properly for you. If you are ambitious you can put the wheel in the bike frame and draw up the spokes while keeping the wheel in the center of the frame. Its not difficult at all.
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