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Old 04-18-14, 05:54 PM   #1
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Gios Compact System Build

Hello friends, I am new to the CV section and am also new to building bicycles as this is my first attempt. I acquired this frame about a year ago and just haven't had the funds to put into it until now (I finally have a salary). I have found little to no information about the frame on the web but I have heard great things about Gios overall so I am very excited. The person I bought it from thinks it is from the late 1980's. It would be amazing if any experts out there could tell me a thing or two about it. Anyways I've finally started to order parts and gear up for the build and I have so many questions that my road bike book cannot answer. I'll start with photos



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There is but 1 blemish on the frame. A ding in the top tup right below Alfredo's signature. This photo makes it look a lot worse than it is because I scraped off some of the paint fearing the frame was cracked, but it turned out to just be a bubble in the paint where the ding was...



I am building it up with modern components (Campy Athena 11 Speed) and am currently spending way too much time on Ebay looking at parts. I will keep you guys updated as I go of course.

Thanks for looking!
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Not that you cannot, but be sure to measure the rear to double check that it is 130mm. Less and you will have to muscle in the Athena 11 130mm spaced rear wheel.

I like these better than the later frames with the adjustable rear dropouts.
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I have found little to no information about the frame on the web but I have heard great things about Gios overall so I am very excited.
did you find this page?
and have a look for the Compacts in the Historic Register?
and given your stated location you should have a look at this link
Gios Torino bikes were famously linked to an Italian confectionery company. The jerseys, musettes, caps, socks etc are readily available.
welcome to the Gios club.
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did you find this page?
and have a look for the Compacts in the Historic Register?
and given your stated location you should have a look at this link
Gios Torino bikes were famously linked to an Italian confectionery company. The jerseys, musettes, caps, socks etc are readily available.
welcome to the Gios club.
Thanks for the links, different Brooklyn's of course, but still cool! I had not looked at that Register, though it looks like there is only 87 and 88 Compacts on that list, none of which have matching decals with my frame. @repechage, I will definitely do this tonight, thanks for the tip.
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Not that you cannot, but be sure to measure the rear to double check that it is 130mm. Less and you will have to muscle in the Athena 11 130mm spaced rear wheel.

I like these better than the later frames with the adjustable rear dropouts.
So I'm a newbie but I'm guessing you mean the distance between dropouts? My tape measure says 5.5 inches which i think is 140mm. This is enough?
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So I'm a newbie but I'm guessing you mean the distance between dropouts? My tape measure says 5.5 inches which i think is 140mm. This is enough?
If you are new to bikes, then let me introduce you to Sheldon Brown's ongoing resource
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Thanks for this link. I apologize for the noobie questions and will be sure to check with Sheldon and/or my road bike maintenance book before I bug you guys more. I am not totally new to bikes, I just have never built one before. I have 1/2 my Athena group on the way, the rest + wheels/saddle/pedals will have to wait until I get my tax refund I can hardly wait until she's finished.
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So I'm a newbie but I'm guessing you mean the distance between dropouts? My tape measure says 5.5 inches which i think is 140mm. This is enough?
I'm no expert on modern or modern-ish bikes but this doesn't sound right. Several thoughts come to mind.

Measuring with a ruler in inches may not be precise enough. BTW, that measurement is inside surface to inside surface, not center to center. But maybe it really is 5.5in.

Check that the frame alignment is good, that one side or the other hasn't been bent out of shape. You can do this by running a thread from one dropout, up around the head tube, then back to the other dropout, then measure the distance of each thread to the seat tube. Maybe someone already stretched the rear spacing (too much?) accidentally or on purpose.

The problem with too much stretching, permanent or not, in the rear is that it makes the dropouts non-parallel. If they are non-parallel enough they won't hold the axle in place no matter how hard you crank the quick-release skewer.

However with a steel frame all this can be fixed. That looks like a great frame well worth fixing and riding!
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I owned a Gios Compact Pro, later model but similar to yours, for about 3 years, 10,000 miles. Very ride riding and handling frame. The fork rode nicer than any I have owned, steel or carbon. The only reason I sold the Gios was that the size was a bit too small for me. I replaced it with a De Bernardi that is very similar in geometry and construction details, so it all turned out OK. The quality of finish was impeccable for both the paint and chrome.
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I'm no expert on modern or modern-ish bikes but this doesn't sound right. Several thoughts come to mind.

Measuring with a ruler in inches may not be precise enough. BTW, that measurement is inside surface to inside surface, not center to center. But maybe it really is 5.5in.
Thanks for your reply. A tape measure and a art ruler are the only measuring tools I have on hand on the moment. However, I did not measure from inside to inside edge of the dropouts last time so I just measured again and I got about 5.15" which google says is 130.81 mm. Visually it looks to be aligned good but I will borrow string from a roommate and try this trick later.

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lovely bike. Try not to clamp it by the frame tubes. Seatpost only.
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Thanks for the tip, I will clamp it by the seatpost from now on. Here's a quick update, more parts on the way. Should be done in the next month or so.

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That's a gorgeous bike.
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That's a gorgeous bike.
Thank you, I just threw the cassette on there and boy does it sound purtty.
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Thanks for the tip, I will clamp it by the seatpost from now on. Here's a quick update, more parts on the way. Should be done in the next month or so.

Would be even more beautifuller with sew-ups.

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That's a beautiful frameset, and in great shape to boot. I like your saddle choice and look forward to seeing the rest come together.

...congrats on the salary.
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Thanks, I'm 26, it was about time ha. Does anyone know where to find Gios blue touch up paint? I can't find any for sale online but I'm guessing someone has it somewhere.
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Does anyone know where to find Gios blue touch up paint? I can't find any for sale online but I'm guessing someone has it somewhere.
have you seen this thread?
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I've always loved the Gios. Perhaps it's because it's so much less gaudy than so many Italian bikes. That, and the older Cinellis.
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I'm now properly geared for the build and all future bicycle maintenance needs (the pedals are white by the way, and therefore should match nicely).



big block, thanks for the link, some good suggestions there. Seems like there is a US distributor listed here so I will probably start with them and if it doesn't work out buy some HOK Marine Blue. I'm just waiting for the oversea's shipments at this point, the crank and rear derailleur are coming from the UK and the brifters from estonia (slowwww), but yeah she is begging to be finished.
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