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    Need help in identifying this vintage road frame

    Hi guys, when i got this bike, it was sprayed over with black paint.
    I took it to a powder coating factory to strip and get a new coat.
    I need help in identifying the brand and model of this frame.
    I hope to restore this oldie to its former glory.

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    Very distinctive, though I cant help. Pretty sure our panel can help.

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    Never seen lugs quite like that. Great pics; lotta info there. Forged dropouts usually indicate a decent quality frame. A shot of underneath the bottom bracket can also be helpful, especially if there is a legible serial number down there.
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    So I see a solid axle nutted down but a quick release on the seatpost. Odd combo. There is some pitting on the fork crown under that new paint. Is there a cutout under the BB , a particular shape? The dropots are similar to Trek's with suntour cyclone RD's.
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    Thank you all for the prompt reply and help!
    i just checked under the bb. There is no cutouts or any form of engraving. It was clean.
    Not even a screw hole for cable guides.

    One veteran told me that the dropouts on the frame was Tange dropouts.
    awhile back i was searching around the net based on tange dropouts and came across a centurion le man,

    http://www.mightymoss.com/wp-content...ion-LeMans.jpg

    i noticed how the lugs on the head stem has some similarity to mine. But, im still not sure though!

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    I think you nailed it, yourself^
    Only diffs I see is that yours has (the better) forged DOs and the cable guides on the top of TT.

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    but, i referred to velobase the centurion le mans doesnt look the same. lol

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    Most likely Japanese. The lugs and basic geometry don't really go with the rear dropout style. The geometry looks earlier, and the dropouts are a very late 70's and beyond design. The seat stay upper terminations and head lugs I think are the best clues.

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    Centurion used the "Lemans" model name for an entire decade, and the model also had some variants like the Super Lemans. The '79 catalog on Velobase shows it at the end of it's run, your example, if it's a Lemans, would be from earlier, more like the green example shown. AFAIK they have usually had stamped DOs, not Tange forged as yours has....so it might be that those were brazed in later...which would make sense since this style DO is from a little later era that the frame would indicate.

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    Too late now, but you really shouid have tried to remove some of the black paint first (Acetone often works), to reveal at least some of the decal work underneath.

    Lots of brands never made a single bike, instead they outsourced everything. Centurion is one of a few hundred brands that were marketing companies (made brochures, not bikes). So identifying their models can be difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unworthy1 View Post
    Centurion used the "Lemans" model name for an entire decade, and the model also had some variants like the Super Lemans. The '79 catalog on Velobase shows it at the end of it's run, your example, if it's a Lemans, would be from earlier, more like the green example shown. AFAIK they have usually had stamped DOs, not Tange forged as yours has....so it might be that those were brazed in later...which would make sense since this style DO is from a little later era that the frame would indicate.
    ahh, thanks alot! That really enlightened me alot!
    Thank you all for helping!!

    I might post another frame for ID too. Will require all of your help again!
    Once again, thank you all for the great help!

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