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    004.jpgI've only ridden mine, a Gueriocitti, without the tires glued on and it rewards smooth riding with a smooth ride! I have Motobecanes, Cannondales, and everything in between...nothings feels like this!

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    My 86 Alan Carbonio actually has an aluminum steerer tube, so they were installing aluminum steerer tubes even up to then.....
    I've been riding the Carbonio for about two years now and so far no problems with the steerer tube......knock on wood....
    But then I'm so much easier on my bikes these days compared to when I was a young buck, back in college in the 80's.....

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    Best of luck for the re-build Weekenndwarrior. I'm sure you will be impressed with your new, old ALAN when you get a little time to take it for a spin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chombi View Post
    My 86 Alan Carbonio actually has an aluminum steerer tube, so they were installing aluminum steerer tubes even up to then.....
    I've been riding the Carbonio for about two years now and so far no problems with the steerer tube......knock on wood....
    But then I'm so much easier on my bikes these days compared to when I was a young buck, back in college in the 80's.....
    Your ALAN is such a stunner Chombi - what a bike!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Fountain View Post
    Your ALAN is such a stunner Chombi - what a bike!!!
    Thanks Gary,
    Despite it being the only Italian bike in my mostly French, mostly CF small stable, it really holds its own amongst my other bikes......
    And I'll let you in a secret that I shouldn't mention amongst my Peugeot and Vitus bikes, The Alan Carbonio literally can ride circles around them the way it handles so much better than them. We'll see if that is still the case though, after I finish building up my just acquired Peugeot PY10 FC.....!

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    What a great thread!

    I have been secretly lusting for one of these for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chombi View Post
    Thanks Gary,
    Despite it being the only Italian bike in my mostly French, mostly CF small stable, it really holds its own amongst my other bikes......
    And I'll let you in a secret that I shouldn't mention amongst my Peugeot and Vitus bikes, The Alan Carbonio literally can ride circles around them the way it handles so much better than them. We'll see if that is still the case though, after I finish building up my just acquired Peugeot PY10 FC.....!
    I just love looking at it whenever the opportunity arises. I'm amazed at your assessment of it though, considering the great bikes you own. I've always wanted a Carbonio but the opportunity has never presented itself - now, thanks to you, I feel I have really missed out -ahah. Good luck with your new PY10 project.

    Sorry guys for 'going off on a tangent'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Campagnerdo View Post
    Italuminum,
    I am interested in why this is a 76 or 77 model. Was this gold color introduced as a response to the Olympic gold win, which if I remember correctly, was 75? I thought this model was an "Olympic" model. Do you know what the difference was between and Olympic model and a Competition? [

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge, we all appreciate it.

    QUOTE=Italuminium;16714769]Hello weekendwarrior, welcome to the forums.

    Great ALAN you have there. Chombi and Gary covered most ground already, let me just narrow the year down for you: it's either a 76 or a 77. In 77-78 the dropouts were different and the downtube had bosses for the shifters. It's a competition model, per the bolt on seat stays. The gold colour is great.

    One thing though, you have the old fork with the alloy steerer tube and round fork blades: these forks have a reputation for breaking. On one of my ALAN's, I swapped it out with a comparable steel chrome fork made by Columbus, just for peace of mind.
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    Oh right, could be an olympic too, forgot
    about that one. We had one of those pass by here before, maybe it'sthe dropouts that give it away.

    anyway, I placed it after 1975 since it has the 1975 UCI world champion bands and before 1978 for reasons mentioned above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by non-fixie View Post
    I seem to remember that the founder of the Alan company named it after his children, Alberto and Anna, and it's spelled AlAn.
    That's what is documented in the company's website history. I'd also be inclined to spell it/write it like that as it's "more correct", but it looks too weird (unless it's the actual logotype).
    I compromise by using ALL CAPS: ALAN

    on a hijack: it would be interesting to make a list of all the ALAN frames that were rebranded and sold under other brand names.
    Guerciotti was one of the big ones...I have seen other examples too (even a Ciocc, but that one was rare)...anybody want to contribute names?

    Maybe I'll start a new thread for this...and pix are a plus!

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    Btw I also had an AlAn frame (actually two, I still have a Guerciotti from AlAn cyclocross up for sale anyone, but in the UK).
    Anyway, they both have cracked lugs, so I e-mail AlAn themselves and Alberto (the Al in AlAn) himself replied for both frames and said that these cracks in the headlugs were 'normal' unfortunately, but the bike would still be perfectly safe to ride.

    So even if you will see a crack in those lugs, no worries.
    I still have the Italian reply (I'm Italian too) in my e-mails if of interest.

    These were the very first aluminum frames, very very light and stiff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unworthy1 View Post
    That's what is documented in the company's website history. I'd also be inclined to spell it/write it like that as it's "more correct", but it looks too weird (unless it's the actual logotype).
    I compromise by using ALL CAPS: ALAN

    on a hijack: it would be interesting to make a list of all the ALAN frames that were rebranded and sold under other brand names.
    Guerciotti was one of the big ones...I have seen other examples too (even a Ciocc, but that one was rare)...anybody want to contribute names?

    Maybe I'll start a new thread for this...and pix are a plus!
    I think Vitus and Peugeot too?

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    the "lugs" develop Cracks over time ,in normal use ,, the manufacturing date is stamped in under the BB .

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    Quote Originally Posted by unworthy1 View Post
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    on a hijack: it would be interesting to make a list of all the ALAN frames that were rebranded and sold under other brand names.
    Guerciotti was one of the big ones...I have seen other examples too (even a Ciocc, but that one was rare)...anybody want to contribute names?

    Maybe I'll start a new thread for this...and pix are a plus!
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    Heh-
    Nice bike-and bolting it back together won't take much $$
    and not much time either-since other than the seat post-and maybe brake cables-it looks ready to go??
    Don't bring it to BIKE SHOP-
    Too expensive-and some tricky mechanic will try to buy it off you-for too low a price
    probably telling you "I can't get this part or that part might as well sell it to me(cheaply)-I will just use it for parts since those frames tend to break"
    He will immediately flip it for decent $$.

    Yeah nice bike-just bolt the parts back on-heck most appear to be still in place-so not much to do??
    What is missing??
    Judging from the comments here it much be worth several hundred $$ as is
    Nice vintage parts-

    Yeah nice bike-don't bring it to any bike shop
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    Quote Originally Posted by anidel View Post
    I think Vitus and Peugeot too?
    were they? Vitus are French, same with Peugeot. The Alan dropouts(circular hole on the seat stay side) and seat lug were mainly different to Vitus. Peugeot had 2 lugged carbon frames. The PY-10Fc and the Carbon Pro. Both French made too. So I don't reckon Vitus and Peugeot had frames made by Alan. If they did rebadge frames, then it's more likely to be TvT or Look.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Fountain View Post
    The tubes are also threaded into the lugs so they won't 'fall out'. Personally, I've never come across an ALAN frame that has suffered this problem.
    Do Vitus frames have threaded tubes? The only one I've seen fall apart was Munga's carbon Vitus, but then, I guess the CF tubes wouldn't have been threaded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuangVuong View Post
    were they? Vitus are French, same with Peugeot. The Alan dropouts(circular hole on the seat stay side) and seat lug were mainly different to Vitus. Peugeot had 2 lugged carbon frames. The PY-10Fc and the Carbon Pro. Both French made too. So I don't reckon Vitus and Peugeot had frames made by Alan. If they did rebadge frames, then it's more likely to be TvT or Look.


    Do Vitus frames have threaded tubes? The only one I've seen fall apart was Munga's carbon Vitus, but then, I guess the CF tubes wouldn't have been threaded.
    Being that the BB shell and the head assembly (and BB cable guides) on the Vitus Carbone and the Peugeot PY10FC are pretty close to identical identical (Made by CLB) One can assume that the PY10FC was indeed made by Vitus for Peugeot, but as I noted earlier in this thread, the CF tube diameters are bigger on the PY10FC compared to the Vitus Carbone 3, 7 and most likely the earliest 9's (which was for some strange reason, identical to 7's.) so if anything, the PY10FC was a "special build" for Peugeot, and not just a re-labeled Vitus Carbone 3, as many think they are...
    BTW, I heard somewhere that some Peugeot CF frames were actually build for Peugeot by "Zodiac" the famous inflatable boat manufacturer, but I think it was the later Peugeot "Carbon Pro" that was built by them and not the PY10FC.
    Vitus Carbone frames are just glued together and do not have the "screwed-on" tube feature as Alans do. So one can justifyably assume that Alan Carbonio frame might be ultimately stronger than Vitus Carbone frames when it comes to frame joints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuangVuong View Post
    were they? Vitus are French, same with Peugeot. The Alan dropouts(circular hole on the seat stay side) and seat lug were mainly different to Vitus. Peugeot had 2 lugged carbon frames. The PY-10Fc and the Carbon Pro. Both French made too. So I don't reckon Vitus and Peugeot had frames made by Alan. If they did rebadge frames, then it's more likely to be TvT or Look.


    Do Vitus frames have threaded tubes? The only one I've seen fall apart was Munga's carbon Vitus, but then, I guess the CF tubes wouldn't have been threaded.

    You're right, Les Franšais had their own bonded alu frames. Not threaded.
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    bike 4.jpg

    I have resurrected her! I am still looking for the seat, but she is almost back to her old glory. Thank you everyone for your input

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    Looks good! It needs a gold chain(KMC do them) and a gold backed Rolls saddle to top it off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chombi View Post
    Make sure he remembers to flip the rear brake caliper to the rear face of the brake bridge where it belongs........
    Make sure the brake pads are also in the correct position. You do not want dual ejecting brake pads the first time you grab a handful of rear brake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuangVuong View Post
    Looks good! It needs a gold chain(KMC do them) and a gold backed Rolls saddle to top it off.
    +1 - a Rolls saddle would really look the part.

    The bike is really taking shape. Gold is usually a difficult colour to work with on a bike but I think the ALAN's with gold anodising really look smart.

    QuangVuong - I read Chombi and Italuminium's responses to your question - I agree with both gentlemen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weekenndwarrior View Post
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    I have resurrected her! I am still looking for the seat, but she is almost back to her old glory. Thank you everyone for your input
    Looks mighty fine! just a little tip: a driveside pic (the side the cranks are on) is preferable to a non-drive side one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weekenndwarrior View Post
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    I have resurrected her! I am still looking for the seat, but she is almost back to her old glory. Thank you everyone for your input
    Looking amazing. Let's see some close-ups! Is that a gold anodized OMAS headset I spy? Nice touch as well as the stem.
    My bike is cooler than me.

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    Some gold anno rims might be a nice touch, too...or might just be over the top.
    Thinking of something like the Velocity Fusion...NOT Deep Vees...

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    This bike is a blast to ride! Fast and super responsive in turns. I just have to avoid bumpy roads since it really likes to transfer the shock into the rider



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