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    Casual Student of C&V J.Oxley's Avatar
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    This is my favorite thread in quite a while. Ambition. Ingenuity. Drama! What more could you ask for? Nice job on the DIY build with a collection of tools quite similar to mine (although I did spring for some cone wrenches a while back), and big thumbs up on the paint concept.
    That's enough out of you, legs. Shut up and pedal.

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    ITS DONE!!!!

    One thing I will say, is that next time (and there will absolutely be a next time) I'm going to wait until I have everything together before starting (yes, saddle, that means you. You as well hoods). More on the hoods later. For now:
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    The hoods were annoying. I didn't realize what a sticking point they'd be, honestly. I ended up going with an ebay merchant who sold me some hoods for the Shimano BL 6403. The levers I have are the shimano bl-6401 and I crossed my fingers that they'd fit. Of course not:
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    I attacked with my pocketknife and managed to just about cut a profile that looked semi-ok. I plan on putting a bit of glue in the tops to get them to stay down:
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    I also caught a mistake with my paintjob. I forgot to highlight the cutout on the top of the lug connecting the downtube with the headtube:
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    Its been really fun sharing, thanks for the feedback.

    As far as ride, I really don't have the experience with lots of different bikes to compare, but I will say that this feels different to anything I've felt before. First of all its almost silent, which is a change from my wheezy old schwinn, let alone my old klein, which was a one man band. It's also really... powerful feeling. I don't know how to describe it properly, but I do feel very quick on it. Its insanely smooth as well, save for one small thing. There's a click I can feel corresponding with hard pedaling when I'm going through my right down stroke. I can't reliably produce it, and I've redone and re-greased the pedals to no avail. I'm going to re-do the bottom bracket in two days even though I can't feel any play at all. Oh well, I'm so happy with everything else I can't be bothered to obsess over a small click for at least a week.

    Thanks for reading! Next up is a 86 Schwinn Le Tour, arriving in the post soon

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    What??? Only 2 wheels? jimmuller's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wythnail View Post
    ITS DONE!!!!
    ...
    First of all its almost silent, ... It's also really... powerful feeling. I don't know how to describe it properly, but I do feel very quick on it. Its insanely smooth as well, save for one small thing. There's a click I can feel corresponding with hard pedaling when I'm going through my right down stroke.
    Nice work! Silent, powerful - these are good. Not unexpected either.

    About that click. If you are not in the habit of weighting the left pedal backwards when you right foot is forward, then it is unlikely to be either crank/spindle joint, since a right arm power stroke doesn't stress either joint. Check the chainring bolts. Also check how the clips are attached to the pedals. And whether any part of a pedal might be loose, not likely with those pedals though.
    Real cyclists use toe clips.
    jimmuller

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    @Wythnail - good job! Very ambitious too. In an early post, someone asked if you had seen any markins on the tubes. They are lite, so they are sometimes missed. In addtion, you don't always see them in the same place. In any case, here is an example from a Trek 610 I am working on:


    WRT the RD cable ferrule, you may need a step down. It is like a normal ferrule but it steps down to just the cable portion that inserts into the braze on. you can't see this last portion in the picutre but it is there:


    I like to assemble the bike prior to paint for a couple of reasons. I make sure I have all the parts I need and they are fitted to the bike. I also determine the configuration I may like. The option for me on this build is about the routing of the cables for the barcons. Do I route them coming out of the straight portion of the handle bar or by the stem. The third is to determine if I like the bike. This last part could inspire me to do a really good job and more extensive one. If it is going to be a keeper, it will get a lot more attention than if I am going to sell. An example is single color or multiple colors with lug lining.

    In additon, some of the parts are now already assembled, such as the handlebar with levers in the right spot, the cable housings cut to the right length and the front brake already cabled up. After paint, assembly is much faster and you dont' have to wait to the next day!

    Welcome to the world of bike therapy!


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    Nice write-up and good looking product at the end. I like the dive in heads first and learn as you go approach, that's my style too. Gives me hope for the project(s) I just started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJX426
    here is an example from a Trek 610 I am working on:


    That Trek looks pretty cool naked... how about you just clearcoat it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skipjack2001 View Post
    That Trek looks pretty cool naked... how about you just clearcoat it? [/COLOR]
    A number of people have suggested the clear coat option. I have read that it doesn't last. The "Patina" changes rapidly over time negating the cool raw steel, other wise known as in the "white." I really like being able to see the Reynolds imbossing, brass brazing and of course the natural steel. Monthly WD-40 applications work to keep it in this state. It is surprising how long it can last. With the frame disassembled, the fork was treated once and left for over 6 months on the shelf in a garage without any change in color or rust forming. Out in the elements might leave different results.

    If you wipe your frame down after every ride then this might be an option. I have moved further away from such OCD like tendencies. My wife would say my bike OCD is only worse! It just morphes to different foci. It is so great to be able to express this and know that I am understood!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wythnail View Post
    Solution:
    I have a pair of ancient tin snips, a hammer, and a nail.
    Your foresight in choosing a name for yourself on this site is remarkable!!

    (Nice work on the bike, too. Enjoy!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Name View Post
    Your foresight in choosing a name for yourself on this site is remarkable!!

    (Nice work on the bike, too. Enjoy!)
    hahaha Now I can't get a stepdown ferrule as mentioned above I guess.

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    Awesome first build! Great job documenting your progress and not being shy to admit mistakes. I wanted to document my first build more but between work and family, getting the build complete was more than enough for me to accomplish at times. Bravo sir!
    And tell my mama I'm a hundred years late
    I'm over the rails and out of the race...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wythnail View Post
    hahaha Now I can't get a stepdown ferrule as mentioned above I guess.
    Nope. Sorry.

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