I got several washers with the parts kit but had to buy the fancy verticle washers. IIRC I did fool around mixing and matching washers but no combo really seemed to give a good angle with the seatstay routing.
Back to the Alfine 8 shifting woes; I was fiddling with mine this week, ditching the ridiculous inverted M-bars and going with a brand new J-tek shifter on rando bars. But just before that, I was riding it around and noticed that mine, too, had developed some iffy shifting, particularly in gears 5, 6 & 7. Felt almost like a mild chain skip, but of course it wasn't. "OMG! BG's bike has given my bike the cooties over the internet!"
Then, while setting up the rear brake on the bike, I noticed the rear axel wasn't fully tight within the hub. Either the PO or I had at one point loosened the locknut over the NDS cone and it had backed out a wee bit, giving the axel just a hair of wobble. Tightened it back up and that seemed to take care of the bad shifting.
I just had a similar issue with a Nexus 7, in my case the lock nuts were loose, along with some iffy cable adjustment. Both corrected, along with a new inner cable (different issue) and everything now works like it should. FWIW this is a pretty high mileage bike.
I after rerouting the cable a few weeks ago and going for a test stroll around the neighborhood, I finally took the Boarala out for her first ever real ride. When I first built it I was mostly doing errand type stuff with her but today I gave her a good 25 mile shake down cruze.
She is heavy! Between the IGH and the dynamo that is a lot of weight to drag up and down the stairs. While the setup may make it look small I can actually only lift the front wheel about 2-3", a little much for a road bike but considering this is a Celeste blooded 'cross machine I think the fit is good. The handling was just what I would expect for a Bianchi but I am not sure if it was the weight or the slightly bigger tire than I am used to that made it seem a bit sluggish at times.
I don't know how many of you have an IGH with the backwards Jtek but my knees hate it!! Despite trying to keep in mind that shifting was backwards I seemed to find myself shifting to a bigger gear when climbing and then as I started down..... You got it! I jammed that shifter down and almost dislocated my knees!
The one town I ride through put some oil and chip on a road that was getting pretty beat up so I even got to do a little gravel grinding. I may load this in the car and head down the road to a rail trail Thurs and give it a good 20 mile path ride.
It's taken me a while to get used to that backwards business with the Jtek, too. :P
So you pull up for a higher gear?
@Bianchigirll, how do you like the hybrid drivetrain? Do you use the FD much at all?
As you may know, my Bianchi Volpe is extremely heavy but also versatile. I call it my SUV. It also has a dynamo hub, which I adore.
Here it is, towing an office chair to my mother's place.
The 'cassette joint' that changes the gears rotates counter clockwise to shift into a higher gear so the cable needs to be pulled, which means pulling up on the barend.
The hybrid set up is pretty funky. I blocked out the granny because it is pretty useless around here. The larger rings are (IIRC) 48/52 sort of a halfstep gearing I found I did use the front quite a bit. I found at times that the 'sweet gear' seemed to fall between gears so splitting the gear seemed to work out pretty good.
Cassette joint, the cable attaches at the hook looking thing by the yellow dot.
OH That is sort of what the Volpe was built for, to do a little bit of everything.
Good explanation and picture.
Threads like this kind of scare me off the idea of an IGH at all. I love the utility, but the maintenance seems like a real headache. Or am I making a bigger deal of it than it really is?
I don't think the maintenance is any worse than any other bike. My issues all stem from setup. The frame I chose to use had vertical dropouts, which while not perfect can be used with the correct anti rotation washers. Next the frame has 'high wire' cable routing ie all cables run along the top tube. The RD cable runs down the right seatstay so it made for a lot of extra tension on the shifter cable.
Scour your local CL and garage sales and grab an old 3spd and give IGH a try.
Is there any reason that you went with the Alfine over the Nexus 8? Isn't the only difference that the Alfine accepts disc brakes? Thanks BG.
No reason other than price. I bought prebuilt wheels and I like these with the Salsa Delgado rims. The front is a shipmano dynamo hub.
eBikeStop.com They don't have the ones I bought, that was 4 or so years ago, but they do have a pair. Search @ eBikeStop.com=
I have never had that level of difficulty fixing a flat before or since. I think the "less maintinece" aspect of IGH is overstated. YMMV.
Fender is correct that a flat is a bigger PITA than on a derailleur equipped bike. I wouldn't set up an IGH bike with less-than-robust tires.
Depends on the terrain which is not surprising. What I find myself doing is deciding what front chainring is best suited, and then using the IGH as a L-N-H depending on need. I must say I've rarely used the L-L-L combination, but there are a few places where it put to use.
This was more an exercise of could it be done. Over the winter this bike is due for a complete tear-down, cleaning, and overhaul. Originally it came equipped with a single 33T chainring. For a couple years I ran it with a double (44-34) and I like that the best. 34T for dirt roads and trails. And 44T for pavement and the rail trail.
3-speed hubs are low maintenance, for sure. I haven't used 7- or 8-speed hubs except in test rides, so I don't have real experience, but it seems they are more trouble. They may be durable, but when they give trouble, it's big trouble. I'm an ace at removing and replacing a rear wheel with an AW hub, having done it hundreds of times. Not sure if other hubs are trickier. They probably are.
Good point about the tire choice.
I have had no trouble with my Alfine 8 speed IGH. It has required zero maintenance since I got it and it has quite a few miles on it. As far as I can tell, no maintenance is required for a long, long time.
The only issue these have when retrofitting them onto a bike is cable routing. You need a low friction path from the shifter to the hub. Friction will not stop up-shifting but can delay/slow (or prevent, if it's really bad) down-shifting.
I think Shimano, or someone else, should offer a set of clamp-on cable guides or cable stops that facilitate the retrofitting of these hubs on non-IGH bikes.
It is really sweet having 8 useable speeds at your disposal, as opposed to just three, as on my wife's bike.