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    Help me Identify this mystery cinelli frame

    I am in the process of possible purchasing a cinelli track frame, but need help identifying what it actually is. Owner seems to think it was produced in the 1950's and was a track frame. Bottom bracket shell has Cinelli Cs stamped into it and also has five holes drilled into it. Lugs appear to have an elongated heart shape in them, similar to de rossa, but a little longer. Owner stated it is a track frame, but fork and frame have holes drilled into them for brake placement (not sure if done after purchase).

    Help me identify what I'm dealing with if you can. pics belowAttachment 392257Attachment 392258Attachment 392259Attachment 392260

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    Not a Cinelli. BB is a common product used on many bicycles. Likely much newer than he thinks. What do the ends look like? If the rear dropouts face back, then it may be a track frame drilled for brakes.
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    I did not think it was from thaw 50's nor a cinelli, but this is what they told me... any clue on what it may be or how to possibly identify through lugs.. no serial :/

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    I'm no expert on Cinellis but the fact that the bike has a cinelli bottom bracket really doesn't prove anything. I have a non-Cinelli bike with a cinelli fork crown and a cinelli bottom bracket. Also the drop outs will tell you whether you have a track frame or not. Does the bike have track drop outs? More pictures would help of the complete bike as well as the drop outs esp. in the rear.

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    That's most likely not a Cinelli, definitely not a Speciale Corsa Pista, wrong seat lug and wrong lugs in generall, but the bottom bracket is made by Cinelli. And that is a common misstake to think that the BB makes it a Cinelli. Many have been fooled.
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    I'm assuming that the five holes on bottom bracket shell were mostly done after production.. no?

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    That's a pretty generic frame that could have been built by just about anybody. Cinelli sold those BB shells to anybody who ordered and paid for them, including amateur builders. The lugs look like Bocama. The fork blades are round (rather than oval) based on the appearance of the crown, so the fork is likely a true track fork. Do you have pictures of the rear fork ends?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alprimo View Post
    I'm assuming that the five holes on bottom bracket shell were mostly done after production.. no?
    They could have been drilled by the framebuilder or a previous owner.
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    "but this is what they told me…"

    Did they mention there's no chain ring bolts?….

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    Quote Originally Posted by rootboy View Post
    "but this is what they told me…"

    Did they mention there's no chain ring bolts?….

    and? doesn't really pertain to type of frame

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    unfortunatley don't have pics of rear end

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    there are track dropouts on the rear. Spacing is 100mm front and 120mm rear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alprimo View Post
    there are track dropouts on the rear. Spacing is 100mm front and 120mm rear
    Well, at least the seller got THAT right. Wrong brand, wrong year (by a couple DECADES)...

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