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    Senior Member Narhay's Avatar
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    That next Grail bike...

    What is that one Grail bike you've been searching for recently (or since the dawn of time, it seems...) that ebay and the classifieds just don't seem to want to yield up?

    For me, it's a 1974 (or thereabouts) Colnago Super frame in 59-60cm. Orange would be a bonus. This one is owned by someone here...maybe drillium dude.



    A Bottecchia Professional in blue/white/chrome of the same vintage and size would be nice as well.



    How about you?
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    For me it's a 1972-73 Paramount P-13 in 23" frame. Orange or yellow preferred.
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    Dang!, I just got one! Too poor now to even think of the next one...........which would be an 80's Columbus SL framed Gitane Pro Team Replica.......so I can pretend to be LeMond or Fignon, in their days of TDF greatness!

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    Merckx MXL, preferably in Telekom. They aren't that rare, but somehow I can't land one at a price I'd pay.

    Galmozzi and an older De rosa are up there for me.

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    Good question. I am sure there is something but since I got my Hetchins my buying has really slowed down, I had wanted one since around 89/90. I am not sure if I would call them grail bikes/frames but I would love to try a Basso made from Columbus MS or a Rossin Ghibli but I don't if they would be keepers.

    Three keepers I would not mind finding are '87 Bianchi Volpe in Turquoise, either a '87 Bianchi Sport SX or Brava, and a SLX Bianchi frame.
    Bianchis '87 Sport SX, '90 Proto (2), '91 Boarala 'cross, '93 Project 3, '88 Trofeo, '86 Volpe, '89 Axis, '79 Mixte SOLD, '99 Mega Pro XL Ti, '97 Ti Megatube, , '90 something Vento 603,

    Others but still loved,; '80 RIGI, '80 Batavus Professional, '87 Cornelo, '86 Bertoni (sold), '09 Motobecane SS, '98 Hetchins M.O., '09 K2 Mainframe, '89 Trek 2000, '?? Jane Doe (still on the drawing board), '90ish Haro Escape

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    a 78 Masi GC in red, 54cm, and I'd love to add 88 and 89 Schwinn Cimarrons to my collection. The hard part is finding bikes that are un-molested originals.
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    Cambio corsa. Something unusual - Viscontea, Lygie, Stucchi, Maino, Ganna, Olympia, Taurus, etc. Must be original finish, no repaints. 56-58cm. Contact me, show me what you got.

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    1989 Paramount in the Schwinn-Wheaties paint scheme, 61 ST and 59 TT, please.

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    1985 Panasonic Team Europe I 56-58cm
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    Ciocc designer. Maybe not a grail, but I want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bconneraz View Post
    a 78 Masi GC in red, 54cm, and I'd love to add 88 and 89 Schwinn Cimarrons to my collection. The hard part is finding bikes that are un-molested originals.
    A mid or late '70s 54 cm (Masi-sizing) Masi GC, a Woodrup (again!), or a modern Italian bike in the latest steel.

    I recently started to ride my ELOS Mondonico, and it is the quickest, most supple, and just best-riding and most fun bike I have been on. My Terraferma 650b has been a bit of a disappointment, partly because it is just too big. The wall thicknesses of the ELOS and Terraferma frames are the same, but the T's tube diameters are traditional and the ELOS are oversize. I think I'm a big fan now of 0.4 mm tubes with oversized diameters.

    I'd also be interested in a 700c rando frame, probably a Boulder. I like a little extra width, but I think 42 mm is more than I need.

    But I still have dreams of a green International with original NR!

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    enjoy what you have, no need to covet what you dont. just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catonec View Post
    enjoy what you have,
    What exactly leads you to believe we don't?

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    These Debby Downers just kill me.......every silver lining has a dark cloud....

    I don't know that it exists, but I'd sure like a chrome Panasonic road or mountain bike. I think they might even be affordable....
    Thumpic....

    Green is the new "CHEAP"

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    Can't say I even have one anymore.

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    7-11 eddy merckx, it would look nice next to my orange merckx.
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    $50 garage sale Italian something or other. I might go as high as $100 if it's a DeRosa or Tommasini.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thumpic View Post
    These Debby Downers just kill me........
    I assume you're referring to my post. I wouldnt say Im being a debbie downer. Im just saying its pure greed to want another bike for no reason other than just to have it. hoarderism. if its a significant upgrade from what you currently have, or if it serves a different purpose then I understand, otherwise I dont. guess im slow on the uptake.
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    Thumpic....

    Green is the new "CHEAP"

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    Quote Originally Posted by due ruote View Post
    $50 garage sale Italian something or other.
    That's pretty much where I am. I scored one of my grail bikes for $50 as a frameset, and in all likelihood that's what my next one will be. Not that I'm that lucky, just that with my current budget that's probably the only way I'll be able to manage one.

    I'm enough of a relative neophyte amongst you guys, that I'm sort of like that guy that picks out a fine wine by looking for the prettiest label. Something European, with an intriguing history. That's my basic criteria, at least for the moment.

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    Want list.

    Alex Singer- Rando
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    Chris Kvale- All rounder
    Early 1970s Masi GC

    I really don't think I am asking for that much.

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    Rossin Ghibli 59-61cm has been eluding me for years.


    Others include a Jack Taylor sport touring, Waltworks MTB, a pepto Pink Bruce Gordon.
    "My biggest fear is that when I die my wife will sell my bicycles for what I told her they cost."

    Get on your bikes and ride!

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    Gitane TDF full 531 with Huret honeycomb dropouts.

    Grandis 1970s with nuovo record (I might settle for super record).

    Don't need them, but I would make room for them. Even thin the herd.

    P.S. A Sachs would be nice too...
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    Not looking, but a red, mid/late 80s Pinarello Montello.

    Or, a Peter Weigle....

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