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Old 07-10-14, 03:57 PM   #1
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How rare is a vintage ladies' Frejus bicycle?

Hi everyone. I made the mistake recently of falling in love-at-first-sight with a bike on eBay and then hesitating to buy it. You can guess what happened next, right? Anyway, I have scoured the internet for mid-60s women's Frejus bicycles, only to discover that there aren't many out there. I thought I would ask you lovely bike enthusiasts about this bike. How often do you see one on eBay, craigslist, the street, or at a shop? Ever? I could only find one other picture of a whole bike, and one old eBay Canada listing for a frame only. Is it so rare that I should just give up?

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Old 07-10-14, 04:15 PM   #2
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Beautiful
I haven't seen that many. But I haven't looked that deep either. Though I am a Cinelli fan, and the ladies Frejus looks a lot like the Cinelli ladies bikes. Infact the "lower" models in the Cinelli range are attributed (Ives) Garlatti and your Frejus could also have the same maker.
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How rare is a vintage ladies' Frejus bicycle?

I've been into cycling for 40 years and I can't recall ever seeing a ladies Frejus. That same frame type with the curved downtube I have seen before, but just a few. I think Atala and Bottecchia had similar frame style. Good luck in your pursuit. Maybe check Italian ebay.
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Thanks for the tip, 1987! I just checked them out, and they are very similar for sure. Those Italians sure did make gorgeous bikes back then.
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Thanks, big chainring. Italian eBay is a great idea; I checked Craigslist Italy with no luck. It's infuriating to see the men's version staring back at me from eBay. It's totally my husband's size, but he doesn't want or need it. No fair!
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Lovely bike! Good luck with your search and, please, if you find something like this, post it here. Please.

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non-fixie, thanks, I will! I hope other people might too!

You think it's worthy of the hunt?

BTW, here's a link to the men's version on eBay; such a tease.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FREJUS-BICYC...item5b0267cb66
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You might contact the winning bidder and make them an offer they can't refuse....
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You think it's worthy of the hunt?
Oh, yes. High-end step-through frames are rare, and this one's exceptionally beautiful.
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Thumpic, I did something very similar! Actually, the listing was posted by an auction gallery, and someone purchased it through the auction house, not the eBay listing. I gave the auction house my name and number, and they promised they would pass it along to the buyer. It wasn't for him, it was for his significant other, so maybe there's hope. I have this picture in my mind of this mystery woman receiving the bike, and then gossiping to her friends about how her man gave her "a lame old bike." I sure hope if she doesn't like it, she lets him know!
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In the US, probably pretty rare, in Italy, not so much. And there is no reason to believe it was not made by Frejus. That one is particularly lovely. I outed it a fellow who was looking for something like that for his wife. I can check to see if he bought it.

The condorino bars are interesting. I suspect they were put on later as those were on men's bikes.

If you want one not as nice but only 50 euro, here you go,

Bicicletta frejus a Savigliano - eBay Annunci



105 euro, Bicicletta frejus torino Originale a Alessandria - eBay Annunci



150 euro, Frejus anni 60 a Druento - eBay Annunci

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The most frustrating part is that I was waiting for the lister to answer my question about the frame size. (I'm very petite, so it really matters to me.) When 2 days had passed with no answer, I called the auction house. "We just sold it, literally 2 minutes ago."
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iab, WOW, you are much better at internet searches than I am! Thanks! So eBay annunci is like online Italian classifieds? It's different than regular eBay, correct? I checked eBay.it a little while ago and didn't see those. Am I right in thinking that those are earlier than the one I'm after?
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Annunci biciclette nuove e usate - Vendita biciclette online - Subito.it
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The most frustrating part is that I was waiting for the lister to answer my question about the frame size. (I'm very petite, so it really matters to me.) When 2 days had passed with no answer, I called the auction house. "We just sold it, literally 2 minutes ago."
I know the feeling! Exact same thing happned to me, but I am on the tall side of the spectrum. Still makes me a bit sad when I think about it. The bike was in a perfect size for me, so if I just would have trusted my eye and bought it direct, then the little snitcher wouldn't had a chance.
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I saw those two bikes listed by Blackrock Galleries and definitely thought the women's bike was the nicer of the two. Guess someone else thought so too. The men's, at 1500, will probably languish there.
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Umberto Dei still offers classically styled step through bikes (for a price):



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rootboy, I'm totally jealous of your Frejus, btw. Are you sure it wasn't you that bought the matching step-through??
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Hot Italian Girls Aren't That Rare :)

I got this in Westchester County, NY a few years ago. Still have it.

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rootboy, I'm totally jealous of your Frejus, btw. Are you sure it wasn't you that bought the matching step-through??
Nah. My wife is as interested in vintage bikes as I am water polo.
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oddjob2, hot bike! And to think, all this time I should have been doing internet searches for 'hot Italian girls'. No wonder I'm not finding what I'm looking for!
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That is a beautiful bike for sure.

I kind of had my heart set on this at one time. This pic was taken from the Historic Hetchins site.



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Mel, the first thing you should do, I think, is to train your eye to judge frame size from photos. Basically, you can assume the rear wheel is always the same size (okay, it's not, but don't worry about that), so all you're really looking at is the height of the seat tube relative to the rear wheel. Figure out what size you need, and memorize the way it looks; then with a glance at a photo of any bike on Craigslist or ebay will be all it takes to tell you if it's worth pursuing.

Don't worry about that Frejus, it was probably too big anyway
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