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    1988 Schwinn Cimarron LE - Ultimate Final Build (photo heavy)

    Hey all,

    I disassembled my 1988 Cimarron LE for the last time. The previous version with Shimano STI "brifters" worked well but they were so damn ugly! It frustrated me because I really enjoy the bike but it had this pair of hideous pimples (aka brifters) protruding off the front, I couldn't take it anymore! I decided that since I was teaching summer school Monday through Thursday for 6 weeks, my Fridays off would be devoted to rebuilding the bike. I spent the entire opening weekend going through my spare bins of parts, I saw the direction I wanted to go and ordered up everything I didn't have on hand. All the components were cleaned and polished before reassembly. There were plenty of little snags along the way, by snags I'm referring to things like changing the shifting shortened the cockpit. The result being my straight Thomson seat post was no good, I was already running the longest Nitto "Dirt Drop" (100mm) quill stem, so I had to order a Thomson setback post. I completely love how the build turned out! I know the purists of the forum will likely have plenty to dislike but that's the beauty of bikes... only one rider at a time! The photos begin with the tattered original paint, then a peek at some fine fillet brazing, and finish with my heavily customized Cimarron beauty. I look forward to hearing the likes and dislikes, thanks!

    Here are the build specs:

    FRAME – 1988 Cimarron LE
    FORK – 1986 Gary Fisher ProCaliber
    HEADSET – NOS Ritchey Logic
    REAR DERAILLEUR – 1985 Shimano Deore “Deerhead” XT
    FRONT DERAILLEUR - 1985 Shimano Deore “Deerhead” XT
    HUBS – Suntour Superbe Pro
    RIMS - Mavic 231
    TIRES – Schwalbe Fat Frank 2.35
    BRAKES – 1985 Shimano Deore “Deerhead” XT
    BRAKE LEVERS – Dia Compe Advantage 292 “Bat Wing”
    CRANK – 1983 Sugino SuperMaxy
    PEDALS – 1985 Suntour XC II
    SHIFTERS - Shimano Ultegra 8 speed "friction" set up
    HANDLEBAR – SOMA Sparrow 520 (520mm)
    FREEWHEEL – 1993 NOS Suntour XC Pro 13-32T
    STEM – Nitto “Dirt Drop” 1 Inch Quill (MT-10)
    SEAT POST – Thomson Setback (26.8mm)
    SEAT – Brooks B67 Leather
    BAR WRAP – Brooks Leather
    GRIPS – Oury “Waffle” Downhill
    BOTTOM BRACKET – NOS Tioga MTB Pro (Sugino) 68x130mm

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    I love it. It looks like it'll haul ass, and I can't wait for the ride report! We need to plan a So Cal C&V ride down the Santa Ana River Trail or something. Really beautiful bike- congrats!
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    Amazing job! What a beauty.

    Question - it looks like the fixed cable end is protruding from your right lever. Is it supposed to be like that? I'm not familiar with those levers.

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    If you don't mind could you post the first couple digits of the frame serial number as well as the 4-digit "born-on" date on the headbadge? There are so few LE models out there and I'm trying to find out more about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bconneraz View Post
    I love it. It looks like it'll haul ass, and I can't wait for the ride report! We need to plan a So Cal C&V ride down the Santa Ana River Trail or something. Really beautiful bike- congrats!
    Thanks bconneraz, as an owner of multiple beautiful Cimarrons your praise is more than welcome and appreciated! I've been able to pull a couple short runs last night and early this morning, just 15 to 20 miles each on the street but I'm feeling good about the build. You called it, the bike is fast and definitely nimble, a river trail flyer for sure! The Fat Frank are deceiving, you'd think a 2.35 balloon tire would be a sluggish pig but the tread pattern doesn't hinder and when I pulled a couple hard downhill turns the Franks hooked up really well. I'm looking forward to seeing how it does on powdery dirt behind my home in Carbon Canyon Park.

    A SoCal C&V ride would be great! My buddy Daniel, also a lover and proud owner of fine steel bikes like yourself, turned me onto an OC steel bike show that his buddy organized. I bet we could put something together with these cats, I'll hit up Daniel and let you know. Here is a link:

    http://torellifan.com/torelli-bikes/...l-bikes-recap/

    Thanks again for the praise, the photos of your Cimarron stable were great "minty" motivation!

    Quote Originally Posted by due ruote View Post
    Amazing job! What a beauty.

    Question - it looks like the fixed cable end is protruding from your right lever. Is it supposed to be like that? I'm not familiar with those levers.
    Thanks due ruote for the kind words!

    Oh, do you mean this?

    funky_cable_end.jpg

    That's the funky end on the Jagwire Tephlon Cable. I prefer to run those cables for the long lengths to the rear brakes, they don't stretch as much and they're always super smooth. The "Bat Wing" levers are really cool, super comfy, and multiple adjustments to dial in the "feel" of the lever.

    Thanks again for the kindness!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metacortex View Post
    If you don't mind could you post the first couple digits of the frame serial number as well as the 4-digit "born-on" date on the headbadge? There are so few LE models out there and I'm trying to find out more about them.
    Hey Metacortex,

    You're in luck, I did happen to have an old photo of the head badge date code. The date code is 3517, here is the photo:

    88CimarronLE_code.jpg

    I also said you were in luck because "Thrifty Bill" (aka wrk101) also owns a Cimarron LE. You should PM him and find out the date code on his LE.

    Good luck and keep me posted on what you find out, the LE model has always been a mystery to me, thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by neo_pop_71 View Post
    I look forward to hearing the likes and dislikes, thanks!


    Hi neo_pop_71!

    Overall, I love what you've done with it. The bike is such a cool starting piece- fillet brazed at the front, lugged in the rear. These things were built to be true "All Terrain Bikes." I think your color selection is totally sweet- it's classic, but one of a kind.

    You asked for the good and bad- I don't mean to be rude in any of this- I'm just giving honest opinion on "what I'd do if I had a sweet bike like that."

    Your overall component selection is fantastic- all Top Of The Line for that time- Out of the "vintage" pieces, the only thing that kind of nags at me is the crankset looks more... 70s-y or something. IMO, a Sugino AT would have been the prime crankset followed by the FC730, followed by the FC6206.

    You've explained the reason for the setback seatpost- but IMO it sticks out quite proudly. Are the "vintage" seatposts with the super amount of travel any good? Would there be any in your size (26.0?).

    I love having a racks on my bikes- why did you remove the braze ons?

    XT is second only to XC Pro () and it looks totally awesome on this bike- to me the Cimarron and the High Sierra are the perfect balance of "business" and grace- and your rebuild and reimagining of the bike is fantastic. Thank you for posting the build and the pix!

    It looks like a joy to ride- Enjoy riding it!!
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    That is a fantastic looking thing. I can't figure out if its modern, a classic mountain bike, a beater, or a work of art. love the embellishes with the peace sign brake cable things (no idea what to call them). Talk about character: That bike has it in spades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neo_pop_71 View Post
    I also said you were in luck because "Thrifty Bill" (aka wrk101) also owns a Cimarron LE. You should PM him and find out the date code on his LE.

    !

    Can't check right now as I am at in Alaska on my Gold Wing motorcycle. 4300 miles so far, another 7000 to go. I won't be home for a while yet....
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
    Can't check right now as I am at in Alaska on my Gold Wing motorcycle. 4300 miles so far, another 7000 to go. I won't be home for a while yet....
    Does your GW have a Brooks saddle?
    What a great adventure Bill, enjoy and be safe!
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    Truely a lovely bike. You have struck gold on this one. I especially enjoy the beautiful components; Super Maxy, Superbe Pro, Deerhead XT, on and on.

    I have a different opinion on the crank than the one given by Golden Boy. The Super Maxy is stunning. I'm just about to replace the FC6207 crank on a road bike with an FC6206. It's a very nice crank but doesn't quite compare to your Super Maxy.

    Congratulations on a terrific looking bike. Bet it performs well too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by neo_pop_71 View Post
    Hey Metacortex,

    You're in luck, I did happen to have an old photo of the head badge date code. The date code is 3517, here is the photo:

    88CimarronLE_code.jpg

    I also said you were in luck because "Thrifty Bill" (aka wrk101) also owns a Cimarron LE. You should PM him and find out the date code on his LE.

    Good luck and keep me posted on what you find out, the LE model has always been a mystery to me, thanks!
    Thanks for the info, I'll keep you posted on what I find. If possible can you also find the frame serial no? The first few digits would date the frame.

    Quote Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
    Can't check right now as I am at in Alaska on my Gold Wing motorcycle. 4300 miles so far, another 7000 to go. I won't be home for a while yet....
    Wow, sounds like an amazing trip! Have a safe ride and let me know what you find once you get back and settle in. Thanks!

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    Hurry back Bill so you can sell me your 89!

    So gents- was the color the only thing that made the bike an "LE"?
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    So far not much is known about them. They were not listed in the catalogs but were apparently offered in '88 and only in Forest Green. I am unsure of the original equipment, but I don't think they were the same as the standard '88 Cimarron, in fact it seems like they were built more as '87 models, especially in that they had painted forks and cantilever rear brakes ('88s had chrome forks and a rear U-brake).

    So far all of the LEs I've seen all used '87 frames (revised geometry from '85-'86) and were built late in '87. Another one was recently discussed here: What does the "LE" stand for on a Schwinn bike?

    If anybody has an original one I'd love to see the frame/badge dates as well as what original components were used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
    Can't check right now as I am at in Alaska on my Gold Wing motorcycle. 4300 miles so far, another 7000 to go. I won't be home for a while yet....
    And you didn't bring the Cimarron with you? wth

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    Quote Originally Posted by due ruote View Post
    And you didn't bring the Cimarron with you? wth
    Bike rack on the back of the motorcycle...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Golden Boy View Post
    Bike rack on the back of the motorcycle...
    A good friend of mine is quite handy with a welder, he fabricated a bike rack for his BMW touring bike. The rack holds his mountain bike (with the front wheel off) perpendicular to the the motorcycle, the rack sits above the rear trunk case and doesn't stick out any wider than the hard cases on the rear of the bike. He is in Oregon right now, making his way back home after having toured the entire US. He hit all the central states last year when he went to visit his brother in the mid-west; this trip was the entire perimeter from Los Angeles to Florida, up to Maine, back across to Seattle, and finally he's heading home slowly. I don't recall how many thousands of miles it was going to be but my jar did drop when he explained his route. Yes, his hardtail Marin with front suspension made the entire journey... he does ultra endurance races so I'm curious to see what the new Garmin odometer on his mountain bike has logged for this excursion.
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    I want to say thanks to everyone for their input, I appreciate the praise and the critique. As a life long visual artist I've learned there are no bad criticisms plus I've developed some thick shark skin when it comes to peoples' comments that are intended to be negative or hurtful.

    Thanks again guys, if I didn't value what you have to say, I wouldn't post the bike... I appreciate the feedback!

    Cheers!

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    Yesterday's adventure was a trip up the Dalton Highway. All I can say is Dalton Highway plus all day rain beats old man on a Goldwing pulling a trailer.

    I thought the pavement went all the way to the Arctic Circle. I stand corrected. I knew it was not going well when I passed the "Pavement Ends Here" sign. Just finding a place to turn around was pretty tricky. And taking this rig up and down hills through several inches of mud was a workout.

    Bicycle content: I did meet a pair of Germans on mtb/touring bikes on the Dalton.

    Pics are too big for here, so I will put a couple on my F/B page.

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