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Old 07-12-14, 05:11 PM   #1
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Newbie Needs Upgrade Advice On a Schwinn World Sport

Hello All,

I bought a Schwinn World Sport new back in í79, thatís been stuck in storage for a good 20 years, that Iím getting road worthy. I got hooked on modding bass guitars as a hobby, so Iíve like to do something special to my bike for fun. Iím too old to race, or even ride for long distances so Iím just looking to have fun without breaking the bank.

Mine is the Pearl blues Taiwan model which I have learned from this site, was made by Giant(G0579). So far, I got new brake pads, chain, and foam handlebar covers (blue like the originals). This is a learning exercise for me as well, so please explain why you recommend your upgrade along with a reasonable cost. All comments are wellÖ.Thanks


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If nothing is broken I would just replace the chain and brake pads as you have done. I would also replace all cables and housing and lube the wheels. Then I would ride it to see what I do or do not like. Then address upgrades.
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No real need to upgrade, IMO as the cost to fully modernize it is prohibitive, but if f you just want to ride it, maybe get a nice Brooks saddle.
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i bought an '80 schwinn 'world' for a girl that she didn't like as much as the fuji i got her a bit later, and here's what i did to it:

- removed the junk, like the steel bars, solid rear axle, suicide levers, reflectors, kickstand, dork disk, etc
- complete overhaul
- added aluminum bars, levers, new hoods, chain, cables/housing and fizik tape
- sold it to another girl

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You would be ahead of the game if you sold the bike and purchased a late 80`s Schwinn that has all the components you would want to upgrade your bike to as far as upgrade cost.
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You would be ahead of the game if you sold the bike and purchased a late 80`s Schwinn that has all the components you would want to upgrade your bike to as far as upgrade cost.
Hadn't thought of that, but excellent point. The price difference for a used '79 Schwinn, and say, an '87 or 88 model is tiny but if you know what to look for, the late 80s model is 8 Pounds lighter, with cro moly frame and fork as opposed to hi tensile steel, alloy wheels as opposed to steel wheels, and maybe indexed shifting rather than friction shifting.
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Well I guess to be on point to the op`s question I would say wheels would be my upgrade. A new set of alloy wheels is about $100. They stop better than steel wheels, especially in the rain, and are lighter. That would be all I would be willing to put into this bike. For it`s stated purpose the bike should be fine as is. Any other upgrades, I would just buy a new bike.

Cost of a nice late 80`s Schwinn used: $175 to $250.
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Thanks Steve Whitlatch, MRT2, and eschlwc for responding. I'm hoping more members chime in because I'm excited about my ole bike again.

Steve,
Yeah, you're right about the cables, my wife's bike has been in storage as well, and one cable snapped for no reason already. But I don’t have the knowledge to know what upgrades I need by riding, because I’ve never ridden a high end bike. This is why I’m hoping to get some ideas and training from you experts.

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I am hoping that I can find "steals Of a deal" in the classifies & CL, like I sometimes do on
my bass guitar site. I definitely agree that I don't need to brake the bank, but I'm looking
for ideas in case some things become available. See below about the fenders please and give me your opinion. And I’d love to get a Brooks, if I can find a cheap one, B17's look cool. But this is my new hobby, so retail is out of the question. My old saddle is torn, and I want to replace it, but the more I research the more confused I get. I'd love to have a discussion about this alone.

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Why did you make the changes you made? I'm a nubie here, what is a hood? I’m not just after performance, I’m also looking for ideas on what will make it look better. I’m thinking some Velo Orange Fenders, which I’ve found cheap on CL, but they are 45mm. Would that be too wide for 27” x 1 ľ wheels? They’re cheap but my gut tells me I need the 35mm to look right.

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Thanks Steve Whitlatch, MRT2, and eschlwc for responding. I'm hoping more members chime in because I'm excited about my ole bike again.

Steve,
Yeah, you're right about the cables, my wife's bike has been in storage as well, and one cable snapped for no reason already. But I don’t have the knowledge to know what upgrades I need by riding, because I’ve never ridden a high end bike. This is why I’m hoping to get some ideas and training from you experts.

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I am hoping that I can find "steals Of a deal" in the classifies & CL, like I sometimes do on
my bass guitar site. I definitely agree that I don't need to brake the bank, but I'm looking
for ideas in case some things become available. See below about the fenders please and give me your opinion. And I’d love to get a Brooks, if I can find a cheap one, maybe a B17. But this is my new hobby, so retail is out of the question.

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Why did you make the changes you made? I'm a nubie here, what is a hood? I’m not just after performance, I’m also looking for ideas on what will make it look better. I’m thinking some Velo Fenders, which I’ve found cheap on CL, but they are 45mm. Would that be too wide for 27” x 1 ľ wheels? They’re cheap but my gut tells me I need the 35mm to look right.
The thing about your Schwinn is, it isn't, and will never be a high end bike. I just recently helped a friend out who wanted to get his mid 70s Panasonic up and running. I went down with him to the LBS so he could get his bike up and running. This beast was over 35 lbs, maybe more. He had this idea that "modernizing it" would turn it into a high end road bike, though I told him it would not. New wheels did lighten the bike up significantly, and new tires should improve the performance. And he added fresh bar tape, which looks a lot better than the rotting foam he had on it before. And new chain, and cables. Add to that the cost of a complete tuneup and he spent close to $300 on his bike. Was it worth it? The bike isn't worth $300, and he could have purchased a hybrid for about $100 or $200 more that would be a better bike in every way than what he has, but he likes his old steed.

So appreciate your Schwinn for what it is, and save the big bucks for when you are ready to step up to a modern road bike. You can always move a new saddle over to your new bike in the future.
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Adding fenders would look cool. Try and figure out your color scheme and buy cable housing in that color. Look for used alloy wheels. As stated this bike is never going to be a top line racer or touring bike. I would fix it up to be ride-able and enjoy it for what it is. If you are looking to get more out of it than it is, you would be better off putting money into a higher quality Schwinn or other brand bike.
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MRT2, help me understand:

Quote: it isn't, and will never be a high end bike…..

Is that because of the weight, components, or what? I’m not experienced enough to know what makes a high-end bike. So at this point I’m not sure that’s my goal. But I’m replacing old and worn parts, so why not use better than stock, especially if I can find deals? Are you thinking that the only way to improve on stock is to spend a lot of money? If this is the case, then I’ll cry uncle early, because that is not my goal either.

Quote: Was it worth it?

I can tell you definitely don’t think so, but it sounds like it was to him. And true that he could have bought a new one but for some reason he chose not to. I see your logic here as I’m sure he did, but who knows, maybe his bike has sentimental value, which can be just as important as street value.

I don’t plan to buy another bike, the Schwinn is it for me. I’m not a avid rider, so logically speaking, I shouldn't do anything to it except the bare minimum. But I’m looking to have some fun here if I can do so w/o breaking the bank. BTW, by upgrade I also mean aesthetics as well as performance.



Steve:

My bike is pearl blue like the link I supplied with white letters. Blue housing sounds cool, thanks for the suggestion. I also have the original generator/light setup that I’m considering changing to this: 9000LM 7x CREE XM L T6 LED Bicycle Light Bike Lamp Headlamp 12000mAh Battery | eBay
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Keeping your eye out for donor bikes, for things like alloy wheels and other parts, is what I'd do. Also, if you have a craft store nearby that sells white cotton ribbon fabric, you can dye that any color you want. This is great for bar wraps. These old lower end bikes may not ever be high end, but they CAN clean up nicely. Think color schemes. Bags, racks, and fenders go a long way as well. Good luck.
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Yellow would really make that bike pop.
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While you can get as "bike dorky" as you can about getting any kind of gear/pedal/bass/guitar dorky.

Keep in mind, even if you replace EVERYTHING on an Epiphone Les Paul- it's still going to be an Epiphone Les Paul, even if you replace everything with the finest components ever available. It's going be laminated wood- and that is the heart of what the guitar is. Your World Sport is a "decent" frame, aside from putting on some decent wheels to roll well and stop reliably- you're throwing good money away trying to upgrade the bike into something that it's not.

If you are enjoying the bike and you're thinking you don't like the shift levers- look for something that you do like. But don't just get rid of them because some people on a bike forum somewhere said "stem shifters suck."

If you're enjoying riding and think that it's time for a better bike- your money's better spent on "upgrading" an upper tier bike.


As an aside- after 20+ years of messing with guitars and basses and amps- there's only a small about of "modification" that really make a difference. I replaced the 3 way switch on my G&L L2000 with a 2 way- because I NEVER use the bridge pickup alone. Around 15 years ago, I wanted to get THE BEST bridge for my 65 Jazz Bass, so I picked up a BadassII. I don't know if I expected to hear some sort of magical sound.. but honestly- the only thing I noticed was this big stupid chrome block on my bass. Every couple of years, I switch around from the old stock "bent piece of metal" bridge to the Badass... but unless there's a problem with your bridge- there's no reason to "upgrade."
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Just cleaning it up real good is a big step up. I would use mineral spirits to clean the frame and all of the components. 0000 steel wool to get any rust off. Mothers Aluminum and Mothers Chrome polish to brighten up all the shinny bits. A nice new chain. Polish the scratches off the frame with a nice car polish that will make the paint pop like new. Wax it like your car. I agree that yellow cable housing would make the bike pop too. Nice fenders, maybe a rear rack. Yellow water bottle cages. Nice new tires, maybe yellow side walls.


The bike is made of heavy steel but it is a brazed lugged frame. It should be a nice ride. The catalog says 33 lbs. Not that bad. A Varsity is 45 lbs.

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Don`t forget to take before and after pictures.
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Shout out thanks to Steve, mrt2, BFisher, and Golden Boy for your valuable input!!!

The Golden Boy,
I hope I don’t get dinged for getting off track, but I slightly disagree with you about mods. I got a $60 Squire affinity P bass off CL for $60 that has one of the sweetest necks I’ve seen, and modded the crap out of it. The only thing stock is the body,neck, and 3 tuners.

I Added:

o Hipshot drop D tuner
o Fender Precision decal sealed with satin acrylic
o Custom nut crafted from dear antler
o 60’s RI spec electronics
o Dome Precision knobs
o Precision Ashtray Bridge Cover
o Aluminum tape shielding
o Limited Edition Custom Series Neck plate with serial
o Switchcraft output jack
o 3-ply Parchment Pickguard
o Lindy Fralin pickup
o Gotoh 201 bridge
o Labella Flats strings

So can I get my money back from all I’ve invested? Absolutely not!!! Because as you pointed out, it’s still a Squire. But I had fun modding the bass, and I learned a lot. I would pit it up against any stock $1300 American Standard Fender you can find. While I agree, that the stock bridge is better, because the action is higher on the Gotoh, but just like your BadAss II, it just looks so cool. My point is that sentimental value, or self satisfaction has just as much value as street value. Would I do it again? In a heartbeat!!!
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There is a thread somewhere recently where a guy heavily modded a 1980 Nishiki Sport, which is pretty much comparable to your Schwinn World Sport.
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eschlwc, Why did you make the changes you made?
all straightforward mods for either better performance or fashion:

- steel bars are heavy
- suicide levers are unnecessary if the lever is placed to allow riding atop the hoods
- new brake lever hoods are comfy and attractive
- hollow axles allow a quick release lever and changing a flat easily when out on the road
- etc etc
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BFisher,
I bought a donor ’72 Schwinn Breeze yesterday for $17 for the fenders which were in such good shape. The tires were horrorable and I couldn’t read the size of the wheel, but the guy told me it was a 27”. Got it home and it was a 26” so I can’t use the fenders. I can’t stock pile bikes like I do bass guitars or my wife will have a cow.

MRT2,
I saw that Nishiki thread, he did a excellent job. This looks like a perfect example of personal satisfaction being more important than street value, because he went all out. Although many members tried to talk him out of it, I have to tip my hat to Duane Behrens for such an outstanding job: Project - 1980 Nishiki Sport


eschlwc, Thanks for the info. All of that sounds reasonable (and worth it) to me. I really like the new brake levers/hoods, how much does that cost?

Has anyone else fixed up a World Sport?????

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I picked up an '86 World Sport by the dumpster at my work. I am planning to fully disassemble and clean the parts this winter.
I will make necessary upgrades like chain and brake component and tires. Here is a before pic. I will take more later when i finally get to start on it.

This guy did a pretty extensive restore on an '86. 86 Schiwinn World Sport Resto
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I picked up an '86 World Sport by the dumpster at my work. I am planning to fully disassemble and clean the parts this winter.
I will make necessary upgrades like chain and brake component and tires. Here is a before pic. I will take more later when i finally get to start on it.

This guy did a pretty extensive restore on an '86. 86 Schiwinn World Sport Resto
Fox, Seems like a nice find to me. Keep us informed......And thanks for the restore link...
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If anyone has advice on products they have used or possibly a list of steps they took. All help will be appreciated!

I am new to this whole thing. A friend bought a bike to commute to work and I wanted to pick up something too but I am excited to learn about by breaking it all down and putting it back together.
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I have fixed up many World Sports, BUT, I limit my efforts to models that are 1984 or newer. Why? Because the pre-1984 WS was extremely basic. High ten steel frame, steel handlebars, steel rims, Suntour Honor derailleurs with claw hanger, steel chain rings, steel rear hub, steel seat post (I think), 33 pounds, etc……….
Now that was explained very well wrk101. You would do great teaching a Newbie 101 class!!!

Since I’ve been on this site, I’ve been wanting to sell my WS and get something where I can ride upright like maybe a mulit-speed Cruiser of some sort. But I’m also a tinkerer, and want something I can mod to make my bike unique and personal.

Also for some reason I prefer something C&V.

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If you want upright, avintage rigid frame MTB with trekking bars is sweet. Better wheels, betterbrakes, better everything really. Just aim high, as higher end vintage mtbssell for maybe $25 to $50 more than their cheap brothers. So a MTB that mighthave retailed originally for $800 can be found for $150 to $175, and one thatoriginally retailed for $250 might be found for $100 to $150. Look harder, andthose numbers can be lower. For the additional $25/$50, you get A LOT more bike.
I hadn't even considered a MTB because I don't know anything about them except there's a boat load of the for sale on CL. Why do you recommend the MTB over a multi-speed cruiser?
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