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Old 07-14-14, 08:14 AM
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I think XC Pro is the cat's pyjamas.

To be on a "road" bike you'd need to pull brake levers and shifters from another group- that stuff is just so graceful and looks like business.

As far as other groups go- I'm always on a Beatles kick. I get on different kicks here and there- I was on a Buffalo Springfield trip a week ago.
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Originally Posted by rootboy
I don't play the drums. But I do cultivate cucumbers. Only for culinary purposes, however.
Heh.

I need to re-watch that gem. It's surprisingly accurate.

Other groups: depends on the bike.
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy
As far as other groups go- I'm always on a Beatles kick. I get on different kicks here and there- I was on a Buffalo Springfield trip a week ago.
<-Beatles, absolutely. I've been on a bit of a Led Zeppelin kick lately. Miles put some great groups together, along with The Count and The Duke. I'd be interested in any group of musicians playing Debussy. Maybe we need a "Listen to any good music lately?" thread.
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Originally Posted by Sir_Name
<-Beatles, absolutely. I've been on a bit of a Led Zeppelin kick lately. Miles put some great groups together, along with The Count and The Duke. I'd be interested in any group of musicians playing Debussy. Maybe we need a "Listen to any good music lately?" thread.
Zeppelin crushes.

As far as "newer" rock and roll, I love the Foo Fighters. IMO it's the perfect blend of Beatles, Zeppelin and Fugazi.

I love the ambiance of good recordings. That squeaking kick pedal, the flubs; sadly that stuff is all edited out with ProTools.
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy
I love the ambiance of good recordings. That squeaking kick pedal, the flubs; sadly that stuff is all edited out with ProTools.
I couldn't agree more. Analog single-take recordings played through a quality vinyl system have a certain "breath" to them that most modern recordings lack. It can sound as if the musicians are in the room with you if done well. Chet Baker and Charlie Parker are good examples of this.
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Vivaldi Four Seasons is good group as is the Brandenburg Concerto's. I have been on ZZ Top kick for awhile too. Have to be in the right mood to listen to Holst "The Planets." I can listen to Jupiter anytime.
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Pretty much anything produced by Lee Perry.
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Originally Posted by photogravity
The modern concept of groups, alatmo, is somewhat mystifying.
It's a marketing tool, originated by Tulio Campagnolo and perfected by Shimano.
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Originally Posted by oddjob2
Tricolor, sorry I'm low brow.
I'm also a Shimano 600 fan. For the price of very used Campy or Dura Ace, I can source NOS 600.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
It's a marketing tool, originated by Tulio Campagnolo and perfected by Shimano.
That's how it started, but I think it's become more than that...

With IP, companies have to develop their own "systems" which end up proprietary. Shimano developed STI indexing, which was protected IP. Campagnolo couldn't then sell a Shimano indexing system, they had to develop a campy indexing system. This leads to the gruppo bunkers.

It's not JUST marketing.
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Originally Posted by -holiday76
Not sure. Definitely not the Grateful Dead though, I can tell you that. Maybe Spinal Tap?
I still like listening to 'Emerson, Lake and Palmer' and 'Edgar Winter'..I've got a synthesizer and I'm not afraid to use it..
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Originally Posted by photogravity
I've said this before and I think it bears repeating. I'm not sold on the idea of groups/gruppos. BITD, manufacturers did not use groups. For instance, Williams cranks, GB stem, Cinelli handlebar, Phillips pedals, Sturmey rear hub, Bayliss Wiley front hub, Dunlop rims, Terry cable guides, etc... The modern concept of groups, alatmo, is somewhat mystifying.
I agree, somewhat. I don't want to start a debate here but I think shipmano was instrumental in the notion of group and the SLR and STI thing was in part to make you use shimano brakes if you were going to buy shimano derailleurs and shifters. I believe there was a lawsuit over this in the late '80s.
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Old 07-14-14, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mapleleafs-13
you made this right? i've never seen cobalto monoplanars

Yes, I conned some lady at Oschnner into selling me the nuts back when they were the big supply source for all CampI small parts. Unfortunatly by now I think both gems are replacements.
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I always liked the Dura Ace AX groupset and am very sorry I ever sold my Velo Sport Team bike with the complete Dura AX groupset on it. It had aero tubing and the top of the downtube mounted shifters.

I keep my eyes open in the hope that I'll find another bike like it.

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Old 07-14-14, 07:24 PM
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Late '80s 105, and it's downmarket little brother Exage 500EX.
Ditto for Deroe LX/Exage 500LX.
Nuveo/Super Record exist to demonstrate how much better Superbe Pro was, and I have bikes equipped with both. I'm not a Campy hater, but there was better stuff around after 1980.

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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
Yes, I conned some lady at Oschnner into selling me the nuts back when they were the big supply source for all CampI small parts. Unfortunatly by now I think both gems are replacements.
SELL THEM TO ME!!!





The cobalto must be pretty awesome if the logos on your celeste is Navy blue then it would be super matchy matchy
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Pretty much anything produced by Lee Perry.
Yes!
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Originally Posted by mapleleafs-13
SELL THEM TO ME!!!





The cobalto must be pretty awesome if the logos on your celeste is Navy blue then it would be super matchy matchy
For some reason when they painted my run of frames I couldn't the 'classic' blue decal with the flag and the best looking thing I could get was this grey with a blue line. Hence the reason for blue cables, tape and other accents.




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Originally Posted by Barrettscv
I'm also a Shimano 600 fan. For the price of very used Campy or Dura Ace, I can source NOS 600.
I love the 600 Tri Colour groupset, the Arabesque is beautiful although the rear derailleur is a little weak and a throwback compared to the second and third generation models.

Mid nineties Deore XT (8 speed) is the bomb and possesses an elegance in it's design, it may not be as jewel like as the early XTR but it is affordable and works incredibly well and does not look bloated like the newer XT group.

Suntour worked with Sugino and Dia Compe as a group and any combination that had Cyclone 1 or 2 sits very highly in my book... the second generation Cyclone shifts as well as anything ever made.
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Originally Posted by mapleleafs-13
What is your favorite looking group and what group is the best functioning group?



for me it's:


Looks: Campy Ergo 8 speed with Delta's / C-record group with deltas

Functionality: Shimano 8 Speed DA, nothing is crisper for the older stuff.
Best-looking? Tough to say.

Best-functioning? The Clash, or perhaps Tower of Power.
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Campagnolo Record
Campagnolo Super Record
Campagnolo C Record with Cobalto brakes
Campagnolo Chorus with rounded crank arms

Shimano Dura-Ace AX
Shimano Dura-Ace 7400 is ok

Mavic SSC

Suntour Superbe Pro (and the track group would be a dream find)

Simplex Super LJ
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Originally Posted by noglider
For looks, definitely Campagnolo Super Record, vintage 1983. It just never gets tiring. It's also an amazing group for durability. It's some of the most crashworthy stuff. These days, bike racers are expected to plunk down piles of cash for new stuff every two or three years. In the 80's you would buy a bike, crash it, fix it, and repeat many times. If that is your mode of operation, nothing beats Campagnolo.
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My favorite group is WHITESNAKE...my favorite gruppo is SHIMANO DURA ACE.......
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For function, Sora, Tiagra, 105, Ultegra, and Dura Ace, all from Shimano, are both reliable and durable. They work exactly as they should. They are all pretty darned sturdy, too.
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