Is anyone aware of a quality vintage bike that was offered in a small frame?
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,593
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 79 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times
in
4 Posts
Is anyone aware of a quality vintage bike that was offered in a small frame?
Greetings,
Is anyone aware of a quality vintage bike that was offered in a small frame? Ideally, I am looking for something reasonably lightweight (low-20 lbs weight range or less), a frame smaller than 50cm (e.g., a 42 or 44 cm frame), and 650C or 26" wheels. I realize I may be chasing a unicorn here, but I'd welcome any/all suggestions or leads -- especially if there are any currently for sale that meet some or all of these criteria.
Thank you!
Is anyone aware of a quality vintage bike that was offered in a small frame? Ideally, I am looking for something reasonably lightweight (low-20 lbs weight range or less), a frame smaller than 50cm (e.g., a 42 or 44 cm frame), and 650C or 26" wheels. I realize I may be chasing a unicorn here, but I'd welcome any/all suggestions or leads -- especially if there are any currently for sale that meet some or all of these criteria.
Thank you!
#2
Newbie
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Toronto
Posts: 591
Bikes: Fiori Roma, Currently building a Bianchi, Trek 330, formerly Monshee Nomad, Favorit, Bianchi Sport SX, Frankenbike
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Terry built a lot of women specific bikes in smaller sizes, some with 650c if I recall, and some with different sized wheels. They don't come up often though.
#3
Still learning
I've got a complete Junior Peugeot, which weighs in at 26 lbs, and is 17.5" or 44cm. You can pop some alloy MTB wheels on it and save a few lbs. I can bring it to NNJ before Labor Day.
Last edited by oddjob2; 07-22-14 at 10:08 AM.
#4
multimodal commuter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: NJ, NYC, LI
Posts: 19,808
Bikes: 1940s Fothergill, 1959 Allegro Special, 1963? Claud Butler Olympic Sprint, Lambert 'Clubman', 1974 Fuji "the Ace", 1976 Holdsworth 650b conversion rando bike, 1983 Trek 720 tourer, 1984 Counterpoint Opus II, 1993 Basso Gap, 2010 Downtube 8h, and...
Mentioned: 584 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1908 Post(s)
Liked 574 Times
in
339 Posts
Bianchi Eros came in a small size with 650c wheels in the early 90's. Others, too, no doubt.
If you can find a decent juvenile bike made for some sort of 24" wheels (520 mm, 540 mm, etc) you may be able to fit 26" (559 mm) wheels with shorter brakes. The problem there is that most juvenile bikes frames are nothing special.
If you can find a decent juvenile bike made for some sort of 24" wheels (520 mm, 540 mm, etc) you may be able to fit 26" (559 mm) wheels with shorter brakes. The problem there is that most juvenile bikes frames are nothing special.
__________________
www.rhmsaddles.com.
www.rhmsaddles.com.
#5
.
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Rocket City, No'ala
Posts: 12,763
Bikes: 2014 Trek Domane 5.2, 1985 Pinarello Treviso, 1990 Gardin Shred, 2006 Bianchi San Jose
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 62 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 28 Times
in
13 Posts
Pinarello Piccolo used 26" wheels. Probably rare as hen's teeth in the USA.
I'd keep an eye on the European eBay sites; much better chance of getting a good frame there.
I'd keep an eye on the European eBay sites; much better chance of getting a good frame there.
#6
Friendship is Magic
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 22,984
Bikes: old ones
Mentioned: 304 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 26415 Post(s)
Liked 10,380 Times
in
7,208 Posts
There was a Bridgestone 550 that was small woman specific for a couple of years.
Note the smaller front wheel, which allows downsizing for standover in a level top tube design.
They show up on CL from time to time, and we just sold one here at my co-op a few months back.
The other similar design was sold under the Terry marque, but they are usually way more 'spensive when you find them for sale.
Note the smaller front wheel, which allows downsizing for standover in a level top tube design.
They show up on CL from time to time, and we just sold one here at my co-op a few months back.
The other similar design was sold under the Terry marque, but they are usually way more 'spensive when you find them for sale.
__________________
#8
aka Tom Reingold
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New York, NY, and High Falls, NY, USA
Posts: 40,502
Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem
Mentioned: 511 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7348 Post(s)
Liked 2,465 Times
in
1,433 Posts
There was also a Centurion Ironman that came in a Terry-design. Rear wheel was 700c and front was 600c (24", aka 520mm BSD). Very smart design. Actually, it would have been just as smart if both wheels were 24", and I don't know why Terry and others didn't make it.
__________________
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog
“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog
“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
#10
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,593
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 79 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times
in
4 Posts
Thanks everyone for the ideas. Please keep them coming. The Terry design looks pretty funky, and I had the same thought as noglider.
I guess I'll keep searching.
I guess I'll keep searching.
#11
Senior Member
You could also look at bikes for the Japanese market.
Check out 3rensho if you are searching for exclusive stuff.
As you might now, there will always be a problem to make small frame with horizontal top tube and 700C wheels.
Check out 3rensho if you are searching for exclusive stuff.
As you might now, there will always be a problem to make small frame with horizontal top tube and 700C wheels.
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,223
Bikes: 2012 Moots VaMoots-74 Peugeot Mixtie U018-73 Peugeot U018
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 9 Times
in
7 Posts
Here's a Litespeed Bella Titanium offered on Chicago's Craigslist
Litespeed Titanium 47cm-Ultegra-Mavic Ksyrium Road-TT-Tri-Male/Female
You can contact the seller for more photo's and if the seller will ship.
Good Luck,
Mike
Litespeed Titanium 47cm-Ultegra-Mavic Ksyrium Road-TT-Tri-Male/Female
You can contact the seller for more photo's and if the seller will ship.
Good Luck,
Mike
__________________
Moots VaMoots 2012-Peugeot Mixte 1974-Peugeot Mixte 1973
Moots VaMoots 2012-Peugeot Mixte 1974-Peugeot Mixte 1973
#13
Full Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 467
Bikes: 84 Coppi - 94 Hujsak - 82 Colnago Superissimo - 78 Ciöcc - 70's Galmozzi - 73 Lambert - 78 Motobecane Grand Record - 87 Peugeot Triathlon - 66 Peugeot H-40 - 78 Peugeot U08 - 85 Raleigh C-40 - 82 miyata 310 - 82 Univega - 85 Sterling SIS Mixte
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 39 Post(s)
Liked 42 Times
in
14 Posts
Small Nishiki Road Bike - $150 (N.Central) Austin CL
Must sell my classic 12 speed road bike, 45 CM CroMolly frame, just had new tires, tubes, chain and shifter cables installed. Its road ready. Cash only
Small Nishiki Road Bike
Probably a bike shop in Austin that would pack & ship so the seller could just drop it off. Or maybe a facilitator here.
Must sell my classic 12 speed road bike, 45 CM CroMolly frame, just had new tires, tubes, chain and shifter cables installed. Its road ready. Cash only
Small Nishiki Road Bike
Probably a bike shop in Austin that would pack & ship so the seller could just drop it off. Or maybe a facilitator here.
#14
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 5,373
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2482 Post(s)
Liked 2,953 Times
in
1,678 Posts
Sticking with a full-size rear wheel meant that they could use, e.g., conventional drive train components, thus avoiding, among other problems, disproportionately large chainrings necessitating nonstandard front derailleurs. Most bikes with matching wheels that are smaller than the standard sized for adult bikes are geared low enough to be arguably inappropriate for anything other than short, casual rides. That was the thinking, anyway.
#15
Old fart
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Appleton WI
Posts: 24,784
Bikes: Several, mostly not name brands.
Mentioned: 153 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3587 Post(s)
Liked 3,400 Times
in
1,934 Posts
#16
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,593
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 79 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times
in
4 Posts
Sticking with a full-size rear wheel meant that they could use, e.g., conventional drive train components, thus avoiding, among other problems, disproportionately large chainrings necessitating nonstandard front derailleurs. Most bikes with matching wheels that are smaller than the standard sized for adult bikes are geared low enough to be arguably inappropriate for anything other than short, casual rides. That was the thinking, anyway.
#17
Senior Member
The most common junior models I've seen are vintage Bianchis.
Last edited by 1987; 07-22-14 at 05:18 PM.
#18
Still learning
Are you building for a woman, child, or man? If the first, how about a mixte? How tall is the rider?
I also have this Raleigh Super Course MK II, Reynolds 531 main frame tubes.
I also have this Raleigh Super Course MK II, Reynolds 531 main frame tubes.
#19
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 20,305
Mentioned: 130 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3464 Post(s)
Liked 2,829 Times
in
1,995 Posts
650c wheeled road bikes are rare. 26" wheeled road bikes of any decent quality are even more uncommon.
I have seen a few small mtb.'s repurposed with drop bars and 26 x 1.5 slicks or near slicks.
My kids are both in that "no mans" land of just under 5'. My son is about ready to grow out of his 24" wheeled road bike and the 49 cm 700c road bikes I have purchased for when that time comes are just too big still. When they do get to fit them they will be on 155 mm cranks, then 165's. Another problem for smaller folk, the cranks are too long.
#21
Senior Member
#23
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,593
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 79 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times
in
4 Posts
Looks pretty nice- what's the size, standover height, etc.?
#24
Still learning
Female rider, about 5'1" or 5'2". Would need roughly 28" standover height. I wouldn't say no to a mixte, especially a nice one that's fairly lightweight, but I/we prefer the aesthetics of a traditional diamond frame.
Looks pretty nice- what's the size, standover height, etc.?
Looks pretty nice- what's the size, standover height, etc.?
#25
cowboy, steel horse, etc
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The hot spot.
Posts: 44,836
Bikes: everywhere
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12768 Post(s)
Liked 7,683 Times
in
4,078 Posts