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    New Brakes for 1986 Ironman

    I have a 1986(?) Ironman Master, Yellow and White, with 600 components, first gen 6207 series.
    Really love the ride and the brakes were better than the old 105 I have on another bike, but going down a steep hill was a little harrowing squeezing the life out of the levers.

    The brakes have the recessed nut. Can I put modern 105 calipers on the frame? Or any other with recessed nut? I dont want to mess around going down hills and I liked the 105s I had on a Domane (dont have anymore).

    I have 8 speed Sora brifters on the bike now to drive the calipers.

    Thanks.

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    Before swapping out the calipers, try non-compressible modern cable housings, new cables, and, above all, new KoolStop brake pads.
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    I agree a good brake tune up would likely do wonders for the bike.

    I like these KoolStop cross pads.

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    Dual pivot brake calipers make a HUGE difference in braking capability (as you know from your Domane experience), and Kool Stop salmon pads are a significant improvement. Any dual pivots with a recesed nut and the correct reach will work. Shimano calipers are very good at any group level, and Tektros are nearly as good for less money, plus their QR seems to open farther, which helps if you're running fatter tires. And DO replace the cables and housings - always a good idea on an older bike, but maybe that was already done with the Sora brifters?

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    I have an 1985 Peugeot that I upgraded to 105 single pivot brakes about 20 years ago and they still work fantastic; as mentioned above, all that is probably necessary is new brake pads (I even use OEM brake pads with much success). If you must replace your brakes, you may want to just change out the front brake with a double pivot, as chaining the rear will have very little affect.
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    I agree with the others. My approach would be to replace the pads first and see if that solves your concerns. If not, upgrade to dual pivot.

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    I have no complaints with my single pivots. well I have a set of Modoloa that I can't keep the front from screamin when I stop, but no compalints about stopping power.
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    Are the pads & rims clean?
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    Cables and housing are pretty new. I put a pair of Kool Stop Continentals on the olde Falcon and it made a decent difference, but would like more. The Ironman has maybe(?) the original Arraya rims (nice bronze!) that I don't keep spotless.

    I'm really thinking I need a HUGE step up as sometimes I go down some steep hills and worry about a car pulling out, so dual pivot calipers seems like the best thing. I like those cross pads, and put some Clarkes brand on the hybrid.

    Thanks!

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