Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
(Post 17019300)
..I will get rid of the turkey levers,...
Oh, well... :( Oh, and Top506, really looking forward to seeing the '60's version! My next project may be my old '63 Sierra (re-named version of electroforged, triple, "Super Continental"). I may start out on that one with a pair of 11sp Record Ergolevers that I recently found in the trash, but wanting to do my first repaint first. |
Is there any advantage with going to a 700 wheel? Any issues with keeping 27 inch?
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Originally Posted by SirRdWarrior
(Post 17019646)
Is there any advantage with going to a 700 wheel? Any issues with keeping 27 inch?
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Originally Posted by SirRdWarrior
(Post 17019646)
Is there any advantage with going to a 700 wheel? Any issues with keeping 27 inch?
reason other than I knew I wanted to go with relatively wide tires, and I think that the bike looks better with them proportionately to the rest of the frame. I don't think there's any performance advantage one way or the other, but it is true that the selection of good tires in 700c is exponentially larger than 27" tires. Again, I don't see this as a real high performance, lightweight speed machine, so I did not intend to put high end tires on it......if 27" look at Panaracers or Schwalbe, and buy them online from someone like bike tires direct. I think mine currently has the Performance house brand tire on it, in 27 x 1 1/4 and it does about as well as I want it to do. I'm thinking about fenders and a rack with panniers, just because it's already a little heavy, and would make a good utility bicycle cycle. If you make sure the frame and wheels are aligned and dished correctly, it goes downhill like it's on rails. Very confidence inspiring. As i already stated, it's a guad builder on the ups. |
Originally Posted by dddd
(Post 17019262)
If I see a general "theme" with many of these resto-mod Supersports, it might be an "economical Rivendell".
I tried riding mine in stone-stock condition, for both style points and economic considerations as well as the "preservation" aspect espoused by collectors of more-haughty marques. It quickly evolved, and I achieved a more-aggressive fit, an extra cog in back (with tighter gearing and shorter-cage allvit modified for 6-sp), a lighter (more-adjustable) seat and post, plus clipless pedals, 9-sp chain, lever hoods and a wider, standard handlebar. The rest I think is all stock, but with plastic housing liners slipped into original brake cable housings, Matthauser front pads, and I hand-fitted a cut-to-width layer of wide Velox tape (to prevent tire bead blow-off above 75psi with my 1-1/8" tires). I also found Tange 12-ball, #64 chromium bearing retainers for the bottom bracket, not that they were really needed. It's a 1971 as well: [IMG]https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5485/...552d766d_c.jpg by dddd2002, on Flickr[/IMG] Thanks, Dick |
Originally Posted by dicktill
(Post 17019822)
Nice bike. What is the water bottle cage?
Thanks, Dick These have integral clamps and a flip-lever that clamps the bottle, holding it securely in place. |
Originally Posted by SirRdWarrior
(Post 17019646)
Is there any advantage with going to a 700 wheel? Any issues with keeping 27 inch?
As far as keeping the 27" wheels there are no issues. Good to excellent 27" tires are plentiful. You can even watch ebay for original Schwinn chrome fenders if you like. |
Originally Posted by dddd
(Post 17020116)
Thanks, Dick. The cage is an Italian REG brand cage, it's forty-something years old, but I found a couple of these new on Ebay for $30 a piece. Came all the way from Cyprus, near the middle east.
These have integral clamps and a flip-lever that clamps the bottle, holding it securely in place. Regards, Dick |
Thanks again everyone for the advice...I really appreciate your input, and enjoy seeing what you have done to your bikes...
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Originally Posted by dddd
(Post 17019022)
I took this as a philosophical statement of sorts, but then wondered, what, exactly, the Super Sport "should have" been?
The Super Sport was and is a weird bike, not that it wasn't aimed at a market where other, almost similarly-heavy ten-speeds existed, but took an entirely different approach at this price point, just as the Varsity/Continental took quality/durability and weight to unheard-of levels in the entry-level market, while commanding relatively premium prices in the process. Schwinn must be given credit for doing things their own way, with rigorous testing and development, and enhanced specifications of remaining parts that they procured from overseas vendors. And Schwinn followed up with effective marketing. As a U.S. brand, the Super Sport persisted with 1/2" pedals, and their in-house bottom brackets, kickstands and headsets were of elevated durability. Their frames and forks were also made to heftier-than-normal standards, the better to resist flexing under heavy riders, and to better hold up to riding skills perhaps honed on an earlier generation's balloon-tire bikes. As such, these might best be called "stepping stone lightweights", perfect for getting into "lightweight" road riding more gradually, or for holding up to years of tough commuter service. But, since the rims on these were alloy, the balance of the components, such as the crankset and shifters/derailers, could have also been as such, but they left a higher price point in place for just such a slightly-different model. And the oddball Allvit derailer, especially the Supersport's more vertically-disposed "long-cage" model, was only odd in that nobody else seemed to spec this rather slow-shifting version, while Schwinn simply wanted to offer riders lower gearing, without the complexity of a triple. Lastly, the Super Sport's frame geometry angles, of the limited number of frame sizes offered, was made exactly the same as the company's premium Paramount road lineup, fully 3 degrees steeper (at 73 degrees) than the electroforged frames offered at the very next lower price levels, and this more than anything else distinguished a SuperSport from a Continental, in spite of the Continental's pounds-heavier wheelset. Here I thought they were just going after sales to the Chevy guys. :innocent: |
Originally Posted by Hudson308
(Post 17021928)
Heh.
Here I thought they were just going after sales to the Chevy guys. :innocent: Good marketing strategy, given the times? They did sell a lot of these. And besides, Ashtabula cranks ROCK! |
Does anyone know if a brooks b72 saddle will fit on a 71 super sport? Its all stock and read somewhere that it might not fit because of stem... was just wondering if someone knew for sure... or if there is a brooks saddle that will definitely fit
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Originally Posted by SirRdWarrior
(Post 17023936)
Does anyone know if a brooks b72 saddle will fit on a 71 super sport? Its all stock and read somewhere that it might not fit because of stem... was just wondering if someone knew for sure... or if there is a brooks saddle that will definitely fit
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Originally Posted by dddd
(Post 17023063)
Good marketing strategy, given the times? They did sell a lot of these.
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Originally Posted by hudson308
(Post 17024085)
the factory saddle was a brooks b15.
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Thanks for the tip on the b72 hudson
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Its successor is the well named Super Sport DBX.
The 2006 Schwinn is just where Schwinn would have gone had the company survived to carry on the line. Its built in the tradition of a sports touring bike. Ignaz Schwinn would be proud of it. |
Originally Posted by NormanF
(Post 17024571)
Its successor is the well named Super Sport DBX.
The 2006 Schwinn is just where Schwinn would have gone had the company survived to carry on the line. Its built in the tradition of a sports touring bike. Ignaz Schwinn would be proud of it. Schwinn was a company that made bikes to higher quality/durability standards than their competitors, yet this modern one looks made about like everybody else's generic China-sourced bike. What's to distinguish it as a Schwinn? Not that I have anything against modern Schwinns, and when I buy a bike to flip that came from a department store, my first and nearly only choice is a front-suspended Schwinn MTB that is sold by Target. I've had pretty good luck with those, but for the suspension forks taking in water from the vented top caps, which rusts up the springs inside and makes the fork action sticky. These forks are actually held together by the springs(!), seriously, so must be carefully examined for deep rust-pitting of the sort that might cause one or both of the springs to break. Considering what these sell for new, I often wonder if I should bother with them, but they seem to ride rather well and the always-medium size fits most adults I'd say. |
Originally Posted by Metacortex
(Post 17024196)
fify
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Originally Posted by dddd
(Post 17024883)
I'm having trouble imagining Ignaz Schwinn being proud of a bike made entirely in China.
Schwinn was a company that made bikes to higher quality/durability standards than their competitors, yet this modern one looks made about like everybody else's generic China-sourced bike. What's to distinguish it as a Schwinn? Not that I have anything against modern Schwinns, and when I buy a bike to flip that came from a department store, my first and nearly only choice is a front-suspended Schwinn MTB that is sold by Target. I've had pretty good luck with those, but for the suspension forks taking in water from the vented top caps, which rusts up the springs inside and makes the fork action sticky. These forks are actually held together by the springs(!), seriously, so must be carefully examined for deep rust-pitting of the sort that might cause one or both of the springs to break. Considering what these sell for new, I often wonder if I should bother with them, but they seem to ride rather well and the always-medium size fits most adults I'd say. Its a dealer quality bike FYI, made in Taiwan. The dealer Schwinns are as good or even better than the Chicago Schwinns made back in the day. The quality is outstanding and these bikes have nothing in common with the bottom of the barrel Walmart Schwinns. They're in an entirely different league altogether. |
Originally Posted by NormanF
(Post 17025232)
Its a dealer quality bike FYI, made in Taiwan. The dealer Schwinns are as good or even better than the Chicago Schwinns made back in the day. The quality is outstanding and these bikes have nothing in common with the bottom of the barrel Walmart Schwinns. They're in an entirely different league altogether.
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How many bike companies today still manufacture their own bikes? If it was just Schwinn, that would be a valid point.
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Originally Posted by SirRdWarrior
(Post 17023936)
Does anyone know if a brooks b72 saddle will fit on a 71 super sport? Its all stock and read somewhere that it might not fit because of stem... was just wondering if someone knew for sure... or if there is a brooks saddle that will definitely fit
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Originally Posted by SirRdWarrior
(Post 17019646)
Is there any advantage with going to a 700 wheel? Any issues with keeping 27 inch?
The biggest downside is that you will need to adjust your brakes out 4mm further and this will give your calipers a little less leverage. |
Originally Posted by NormanF
(Post 17025232)
Its a dealer quality bike FYI, made in Taiwan. The dealer Schwinns are as good or even better than the Chicago Schwinns made back in the day. The quality is outstanding and these bikes have nothing in common with the bottom of the barrel Walmart Schwinns. They're in an entirely different league altogether.
But what is our definition of the quality being "outstanding"? I notice it carries an ISIS bottom bracket, made by whom I don't know, but not so much good about these. I notice the WalMart site appears to be a drop-shipper for Bikewagon, an ebay store, and with shop assembly recommended. Seems odd that WalMart is listing a bike described as a 2006 model, but that might make this an overstock-clearance item. Componentry seems to make the bike a fair deal, competitive with other internet bargain sites that bypass bicycle shop distribution at least. Again, I can't see much possibility of Ignaz Schwinn being proud of Chinese made bikes being distributed by whoever is willing to buy a truckload of them as 8-year-old overstock. |
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