The Patch of Honor Roll
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The Patch of Honor Roll
Participate in the poll by finishing the following sentence:
"As a C&Ver, my current workhorse has
A: no tube patches
B: one or two patches
C: 3 or more patches
because....
1: I'm super thrifty."
2: I see it as part of C&V culture."
3: I'm the real deal and ride tubulars."
Extra credit: Explain your answer.
"As a C&Ver, my current workhorse has
A: no tube patches
B: one or two patches
C: 3 or more patches
because....
1: I'm super thrifty."
2: I see it as part of C&V culture."
3: I'm the real deal and ride tubulars."
Extra credit: Explain your answer.
Last edited by uncle uncle; 08-12-14 at 09:19 PM.
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"...my current workhorse" varies from day to day so I don't ride any one enough to get flats. They all have newish tubes so there are no patches.
I know, this negates any modicum of C & V "cred" I was earning around here.
I know, this negates any modicum of C & V "cred" I was earning around here.
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I don't keep track. Assuming the puncture is small and not on a seam, I generally patch a tube at least once or twice.
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Kind of like Chutes and Ladders.
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C, 1.
I patch tubes until they aren't repairable anymore, even replaced valves, so sometimes I ride tubes with 10 patches on them. No problems.
I patch tubes until they aren't repairable anymore, even replaced valves, so sometimes I ride tubes with 10 patches on them. No problems.
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...I got a few with patches, and I know all the "tricks" and "secrets" for successful patching.
But in all honesty I suck at patching. I think after one or two I just move on. Like marriage. So B.
In my defense, we collect and recirculate tubes from a couple of bike shops here at the bike co-op.
So the bulk of my tubes are previously used. It's absolutely astonishing how many people put in brand new
tubes with a tire change, just because. I guess I understand it if you simply cannot change your own.
But in all honesty I suck at patching. I think after one or two I just move on. Like marriage. So B.
In my defense, we collect and recirculate tubes from a couple of bike shops here at the bike co-op.
So the bulk of my tubes are previously used. It's absolutely astonishing how many people put in brand new
tubes with a tire change, just because. I guess I understand it if you simply cannot change your own.
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B, 2
My current workhorse has one or two patches, because (sort of) I view it as C&V culture.
I also grew up patching tubes, and really don't see any reason to change now.
Actually, I'm superstitious.
I believe that once a tube has been properly patched and holds, it has learned it's lesson, and will never fail you again.
Unless I pinch it right away re-installing it, or the tire is defective, that seems to be the case, so far.
Hey, don't look at me like that!
PS: My tubulars, well, that's always a case, so far, of valve core leaks, not flats.
PS: I don't see any tubeless tires in my future, period, or chemicals inside my tubes.
My current workhorse has one or two patches, because (sort of) I view it as C&V culture.
I also grew up patching tubes, and really don't see any reason to change now.
Actually, I'm superstitious.
I believe that once a tube has been properly patched and holds, it has learned it's lesson, and will never fail you again.
Unless I pinch it right away re-installing it, or the tire is defective, that seems to be the case, so far.
Hey, don't look at me like that!
PS: My tubulars, well, that's always a case, so far, of valve core leaks, not flats.
PS: I don't see any tubeless tires in my future, period, or chemicals inside my tubes.
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I don't patch tubes because after several attempts, both on the side of the road and in my shop, most do not hold air and when they do I suspect that they will stop holding air in the middle of a ride.
I do not throw the tubes away though. I find other uses for them, such as bar wrap or sewing projects. On the other hand, I average about one flat for every 1000 miles or so don't have a lot of bad tubes.
I do carry patches though, and if ever I come upon someone with a flat, offer them a choice of my tube or the patch kit.
I do not throw the tubes away though. I find other uses for them, such as bar wrap or sewing projects. On the other hand, I average about one flat for every 1000 miles or so don't have a lot of bad tubes.
I do carry patches though, and if ever I come upon someone with a flat, offer them a choice of my tube or the patch kit.
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I am sometimes surprised by how many patches I have on a tube I've pulled to repair.
"Well, one more ain't gonna hurt anything!"
Nine out of ten are patches I've made by cutting little circles out of junk tubes; using glue-both-faces technique. I haven't bought a conventional patch kit in years, just little tubes of rubber cement.
"Well, one more ain't gonna hurt anything!"
Nine out of ten are patches I've made by cutting little circles out of junk tubes; using glue-both-faces technique. I haven't bought a conventional patch kit in years, just little tubes of rubber cement.
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My record is 22 patches before the stem pulled out. All through a continental 4000 23mm tire.
When I was a kid, I lived pretty far out from civilization, so getting new tubes was pretty rare.
For a while I was doing organized rides! with "serious" roadies, who were flinging their flatted tubes away when changing a flat. I picked up several, all higher dollar tubes than I buy, and I think I still have a few.
Right now almost all of the spares in every seat bag has a couple patches, I won't dig into the "new" drawer unless I have to.
Interestingly, I once offered a tube to a guy on a ride who was out, he refused it as it had a couple of patches
When I was a kid, I lived pretty far out from civilization, so getting new tubes was pretty rare.
For a while I was doing organized rides! with "serious" roadies, who were flinging their flatted tubes away when changing a flat. I picked up several, all higher dollar tubes than I buy, and I think I still have a few.
Right now almost all of the spares in every seat bag has a couple patches, I won't dig into the "new" drawer unless I have to.
Interestingly, I once offered a tube to a guy on a ride who was out, he refused it as it had a couple of patches
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So, it's kind of like this: My patches have a tube...somewhere... I think.
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No patched tubes here. I do carry a patch kit and an extra tube when I ride.
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Original poster here. Some great comments; keep them coming. I think being able to patch your bike tube is akin to being able to change out a flat on your car. Which, if my memory serves me correctly, about 113% of auto drivers in the USA cannot change a car tire (don't quote me on that though). Being self sufficient with your wheels seems like a pretty old school/C&V concept.
I'm a C1/C2. My 2 current tubes have five patches amongst them, with the spare tube having three of it's own. I'm not the best mechanic, but I can switch out a tube and get patches to work (sometimes). I will never ride with thorn proof tubes nor will I put goop in tubes.
I'm a C1/C2. My 2 current tubes have five patches amongst them, with the spare tube having three of it's own. I'm not the best mechanic, but I can switch out a tube and get patches to work (sometimes). I will never ride with thorn proof tubes nor will I put goop in tubes.
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I was the second one back from a major collision, and the debris stream was still flowing as I rode through it. I got one flat from it. I pulled into the nearest parking lot and fixed it. The onlookers were completely amazed at such a spectacle.
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A.
My other bikes have tubulars and don't have patches either.
It isn't that I wouldn't do it, it is just that I haven't needed to patch since changing tires which required different size tubes. I keep patching till one doesn't hold.
Never thought about using a tube as patch material! Don't know if that is a good idea or not. So @AZORCH how heavy is that patch tube?
My other bikes have tubulars and don't have patches either.
It isn't that I wouldn't do it, it is just that I haven't needed to patch since changing tires which required different size tubes. I keep patching till one doesn't hold.
Never thought about using a tube as patch material! Don't know if that is a good idea or not. So @AZORCH how heavy is that patch tube?
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Hopefully the following statement doesn't anger the puncture gods.
I haven't had much need for patching lately (a year or two prior to this summer). This past weekend was spent camping on a friend's farm for a music festival he's been throwing for a handful of years now. I brought my MTB for transportation and general shenanigans (I need to ride in the woods more, man it's fun). Sunday am I grabbed the bike to head down to the house for some water. Flat rear. Shoot. Replaced the nice tube with a heavy Kenda later in the day, but I'll be patching the original soon.
That will make the grand total of patches for all 12 of my wheels exactly...one.
I haven't had much need for patching lately (a year or two prior to this summer). This past weekend was spent camping on a friend's farm for a music festival he's been throwing for a handful of years now. I brought my MTB for transportation and general shenanigans (I need to ride in the woods more, man it's fun). Sunday am I grabbed the bike to head down to the house for some water. Flat rear. Shoot. Replaced the nice tube with a heavy Kenda later in the day, but I'll be patching the original soon.
That will make the grand total of patches for all 12 of my wheels exactly...one.
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It works OK, but I prefer ready made patches because ideally you'd need to make the patch just before use, and you have to prepare 2 surfaces. Still I'll use them for very big patches, pressing the patch/tube in a vise overnight.
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This reminds me....the workhorse has 2 punctured tubes in the saddlebag......hope it rains soon so I can spend an evening patching
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My daily commuter is a 92' Trek 950 with downhill tubes. I have had one flat in 6 years! Wife patched that in 2008. Only have to air up about 3 times a year.
All my other bikes need air about monthly.
Now that I jinxed myself I will likely get 3 dozen flats a week for the rest of the year.
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All my other bikes need air about monthly.
Now that I jinxed myself I will likely get 3 dozen flats a week for the rest of the year.
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A, 3. No patches, mostly tubulars, and a few clinchers with new tubes. I don't flat very often, and I don't patch, patches have let me down too many times. Life is short. I just throw them away.
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No patches presently but I recently used three patches over the course of two punctures on a Tandem ride and had to bail early after the third....i ran out of patches.
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I have no idea how many patches are on my tubes at the moment, but next time I have a flat tire I'll try to remember to count.
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Most of my tubes have a few patches. I always try to distribute my flats so the tube stays balanced. Ideally I suppose you'd want two opposite the valve stem.
I once complained to a guy at the LBS about self-stick patches; that they would only last about long enough to get home. He looked at me kind of funny and said "well yeah, you'd never want to ride longer than that on a patched tube anyway." I'm more a "wear it out" kind of guy, and after that I use them to tie up x-cords, tie stuff on the roof rack, and a bunch of other stuff.
I once complained to a guy at the LBS about self-stick patches; that they would only last about long enough to get home. He looked at me kind of funny and said "well yeah, you'd never want to ride longer than that on a patched tube anyway." I'm more a "wear it out" kind of guy, and after that I use them to tie up x-cords, tie stuff on the roof rack, and a bunch of other stuff.