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Old 08-18-14, 11:31 AM
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semi-vertical drop-outs on my Miyata touring frame.

I have a 1987-ish Miyata 615 touring bike I'm restoring.

The dropouts are semi-vertical. They do not feature a screw adjustment for axle positioning. Instead, there was a two-part retainer that stopped the axle from traveling too far back. This retainer rubbed against the modern Shimano 105 hub I'm using. So I removed the retainer on both sides.

The axle can be positioned and secured using the quick release. However, I would like to have a perfectly secure way of positioning the rear axle.

Any suggestions?
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The following suggestion may be faux pas, but short of custom drilling the Dropouts for adjustment screws it's the only suggestion I can think of...

You could possibly JB Weld a small nut into the slot of each dropout, at the back end of the slot. Using the same size nut on each side would take up an even amount of the space inside the slot, therefore centering the axle in the dropout on both sides. It would also be innocuous, provided the nuts are secured in an 'artistic' fashion.

Just throwing it out there as a suggestion.
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Originally Posted by oldskoolwrench
The following suggestion may be faux pas, but short of custom drilling the Dropouts for adjustment screws it's the only suggestion I can think of...

You could possibly JB Weld a small nut into the slot of each dropout, at the back end of the slot. Using the same size nut on each side would take up an even amount of the space inside the slot, therefore centering the axle in the dropout on both sides. It would also be innocuous, provided the nuts are secured in an 'artistic' fashion.

Just throwing it out there as a suggestion.
I like the suggestion. I'm just trying to keep the axle from sliding back.
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Just slide it back to the end of the drop out and let it ride.
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Originally Posted by oldskoolwrench
The following suggestion may be faux pas, but short of custom drilling the Dropouts for adjustment screws it's the only suggestion I can think of...

You could possibly JB Weld a small nut into the slot of each dropout, at the back end of the slot. Using the same size nut on each side would take up an even amount of the space inside the slot, therefore centering the axle in the dropout on both sides. It would also be innocuous, provided the nuts are secured in an 'artistic' fashion.

Just throwing it out there as a suggestion.
I guess great minds think alike, that was the first idea I had.
@Barrettscv- Whats rubbing? The whole spacer or just the bolt? You could always file the bolt down a bit.
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i've only seen two different kinds of frame adjustment fittings on c&v bikes: screws and the bracket type with nut and bolt. the bracket type i've seen in both french and japanese bikes. my current peugeot has them, and i had to remove the drive side one because it interfered with the freewheel, and i didn't have a spare axle washer to move the hub over to the left.

anyhoo, sheldon says you only need one of them in the frame.

i'm a little confused what your dropouts look like. is it like this '86 610?

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Originally Posted by eschlwc
i've only seen two different kinds of frame adjustment fittings on c&v bikes: screws and the bracket type with nut and bolt. the bracket type i've seen in both french and japanese bikes. my current peugeot has them, and i had to remove the drive side one because it interfered with the freewheel, and i didn't have a spare axle washer to move the hub over to the left.

anyhoo, sheldon says you only need one of them in the frame.

i'm a little confused what your dropouts look like. is it like this '86 610?
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