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You could also do brown Newbaums cloth to match the saddle. I am with PB on the original tape. I had it on my Schwinn's as a kid and it was the first thing I always got rid of.
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The Suntour Schwinn Approved barcons are on eBay all the time. I have several sets on my bikes. Usually I pay around $40.00 for them.
From my personal experience with barcon shifters and this OEM derailleur - When you put barcons on and you are still running the Campy GranTourismo rear DR, you will find out how really bad that derailleur is.. With the longer cables for the barcons it becomes almost unusable. Buy a Shimano Crane GS or a Campy Rally and use the Original DR for a paperweight. (The Crane is a great product and as others have said, became OEM from Schwinn on later models. They can still be found on eBay for cheap money. I paid $35.00 for the NOS one that is on my Sports Tourer.)
I'm running the Crane on my '72 Sports Tourer with Suntour barcons, and a Campagnolo Rally on my '72 P15-9 Paramount with those shifters as well. Both work great.
Nice bike! (my size) Great score!
From my personal experience with barcon shifters and this OEM derailleur - When you put barcons on and you are still running the Campy GranTourismo rear DR, you will find out how really bad that derailleur is.. With the longer cables for the barcons it becomes almost unusable. Buy a Shimano Crane GS or a Campy Rally and use the Original DR for a paperweight. (The Crane is a great product and as others have said, became OEM from Schwinn on later models. They can still be found on eBay for cheap money. I paid $35.00 for the NOS one that is on my Sports Tourer.)
I'm running the Crane on my '72 Sports Tourer with Suntour barcons, and a Campagnolo Rally on my '72 P15-9 Paramount with those shifters as well. Both work great.
Nice bike! (my size) Great score!
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My 2 cents:
I'm not a fan of the original Hunt Wilde tape. I find it too slippery, not enough padding, the diameter too small (same for cotton tape), and I don't care much for the style. The Hunt Wilde seems too "Disney" for my tastes and not like serious bar tape. Even back in the 1970s, I think I would have replaced it ASAP.
So I do my best to match the tape color to something else on the bike. Might be the saddle, could be the bar bag, and in the case of my '75 Sports Tourer, I matched the Bluemels fenders, which are sort of a champagne color. Sometimes I'll go with a more C&V like tape such as Bike Ribbon.
@Metacortex has found some great alternatives. I use the "Metal" blue Fizik on my '71 Paramount. It's painted in flamboyant red. The tape matches the handlebar bag and the brake cable casing. I like the Fizik tape.
I'm not a fan of the original Hunt Wilde tape. I find it too slippery, not enough padding, the diameter too small (same for cotton tape), and I don't care much for the style. The Hunt Wilde seems too "Disney" for my tastes and not like serious bar tape. Even back in the 1970s, I think I would have replaced it ASAP.
So I do my best to match the tape color to something else on the bike. Might be the saddle, could be the bar bag, and in the case of my '75 Sports Tourer, I matched the Bluemels fenders, which are sort of a champagne color. Sometimes I'll go with a more C&V like tape such as Bike Ribbon.
@Metacortex has found some great alternatives. I use the "Metal" blue Fizik on my '71 Paramount. It's painted in flamboyant red. The tape matches the handlebar bag and the brake cable casing. I like the Fizik tape.
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Yahbut... that rack is at least ten years newer than the bike. Bent & welded aluminum rod racks didn't come on strong until the late '70's/early '80's. Jim Blackburn started about 1975: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...blackburn.html
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I'll keep the old rack, it can go back on it in a jiffy. The Jim just looks so much better.
I'll likely store the rack, lights and rear drive in a box to be reinstalled if I sell it.
@fender1 is a good seller, he shipped so fast I got the rack the day before I bought it
I'll likely store the rack, lights and rear drive in a box to be reinstalled if I sell it.
@fender1 is a good seller, he shipped so fast I got the rack the day before I bought it
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I'll keep the old rack, it can go back on it in a jiffy. The Jim just looks so much better.
I'll likely store the rack, lights and rear drive in a box to be reinstalled if I sell it.
@fender1 is a good seller, he shipped so fast I got the rack the day before I bought it
I'll likely store the rack, lights and rear drive in a box to be reinstalled if I sell it.
@fender1 is a good seller, he shipped so fast I got the rack the day before I bought it
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I found a candy apple green Sports Tourer a couple of days ago. The paint is pretty good! The serial database indicates it was built in July of 1973 but the 73 catalog does not show the color available that year. How did Schwinn store the frames?
I got a little documentation with the bike that indicates it may have been sold in 1974. One thing that is throwing me is the girder-style stem. Anyone know who made it? Also, what is the proper rim style? It has Weinmann rims quite unlike the ones on my 60s Paramount...
I got a little documentation with the bike that indicates it may have been sold in 1974. One thing that is throwing me is the girder-style stem. Anyone know who made it? Also, what is the proper rim style? It has Weinmann rims quite unlike the ones on my 60s Paramount...
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I found a candy apple green Sports Tourer a couple of days ago. The paint is pretty good! The serial database indicates it was built in July of 1973 but the 73 catalog does not show the color available that year. How did Schwinn store the frames?
I got a little documentation with the bike that indicates it may have been sold in 1974. One thing that is throwing me is the girder-style stem. Anyone know who made it? Also, what is the proper rim style? It has Weinmann rims quite unlike the ones on my 60s Paramount...
I got a little documentation with the bike that indicates it may have been sold in 1974. One thing that is throwing me is the girder-style stem. Anyone know who made it? Also, what is the proper rim style? It has Weinmann rims quite unlike the ones on my 60s Paramount...
The stem was used on the larger frames. I believe it was made by GB in Great Britain.
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That stem was stuck pretty hard. I treated it with Kroil and let it set a day. Then I tried to move it- and it made a 'tick' sound and stopped. So I added more Kroil and worked it back and forth. After a while I could move it most the way around but it would not come up. I felt the stem and it was warm, so I Kroiled it again and let it sit a couple of hours. After that it came out with no effort.
I cleaned the stem and sanded off the pitting using Scotchbrite. Then I applied lithium grease to the stem and the inside of the fork tube.
All that and now I have the stem set about 1/8" lower...
The paint and chrome bits are in good shape as is even the original bar tape.
Definitely the Cadillac ride- smooth, almost regal compared to almost any road bike I've been on recently.
I cleaned the stem and sanded off the pitting using Scotchbrite. Then I applied lithium grease to the stem and the inside of the fork tube.
All that and now I have the stem set about 1/8" lower...
The paint and chrome bits are in good shape as is even the original bar tape.
Definitely the Cadillac ride- smooth, almost regal compared to almost any road bike I've been on recently.
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How did Schwinn store the frames?
One thing that is throwing me is the girder-style stem. Anyone know who made it?
Also, what is the proper rim style? It has Weinmann rims quite unlike the ones on my 60s Paramount...
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Thanks! Looks like I have the correct rims. Someone went through some effort to replace the rear hub but retained the original rim.
I bought the bike from the original owner. He had an owner's manual (which, while it indicated Paramount and Sports Tourer, was mostly Paramount) with some notes that indicated 1974. Could any of the green bikes have been late in '74? I thought there was supposed to be a 4-digit number on the headbadge but there isn't anything.
I bought the bike from the original owner. He had an owner's manual (which, while it indicated Paramount and Sports Tourer, was mostly Paramount) with some notes that indicated 1974. Could any of the green bikes have been late in '74? I thought there was supposed to be a 4-digit number on the headbadge but there isn't anything.
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I thought there was supposed to be a 4-digit number on the headbadge but there isn't anything.
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Yahbut... that rack is at least ten years newer than the bike. Bent & welded aluminum rod racks didn't come on strong until the late '70's/early '80's. Jim Blackburn started about 1975: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...blackburn.html
Seriously, those two-legged racks suck. I've broken at least three of them, because I trusted them to hold my stuff. Good for show + your windbreaker only.
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I have a 1972 Sports Tourer that I am trying to use as a commuter. It has aluminum rims that have a smooth inside (I think that they are "not hooked"?) I replaced the tires with KENDA K35 Gumwall 27 x 1-1/4 tires. One of them blew off the rim at 90 psi, after replacing the tube it seemed to be fine at 80 psi. The next morning it blew on the way to school. I like that this bike is all original, I also would like to ride on higher pressure tires. What do you think about this? I need some experience.
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I have a 1972 Sports Tourer that I am trying to use as a commuter. It has aluminum rims that have a smooth inside (I think that they are "not hooked"?) I replaced the tires with KENDA K35 Gumwall 27 x 1-1/4 tires. One of them blew off the rim at 90 psi, after replacing the tube it seemed to be fine at 80 psi. The next morning it blew on the way to school. I like that this bike is all original, I also would like to ride on higher pressure tires. What do you think about this? I need some experience.
If you're bound and determined to keep it "stock", track down some of the later Weinmann rims with hook beads (see above). If you're willing to settle for a little anachronistic equipment, lace up a set of Sun CR-18 rims and ride to your heart's content.
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If you're cheap, these CR-18s built up are more cost effective than building your own and actually nice for the money.
Sun CR18 27 5,6,7 Speed Freewheel hubs Road Bike Wheelset [72274726665] - $115.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
My Sports Tourer is a built from a substantially bare frame, but the ride is sweet nevertheless and only the BF C&V crowd would know what's not stock on it.
Sun CR18 27 5,6,7 Speed Freewheel hubs Road Bike Wheelset [72274726665] - $115.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
My Sports Tourer is a built from a substantially bare frame, but the ride is sweet nevertheless and only the BF C&V crowd would know what's not stock on it.
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You guys are great. The following is what I was trying to post before I read The Albert Einstein quote. I keep getting logged off before I can finish typing:
"Thanks Jeff. If I go anachronistic can I just replace the whole wheels? Will the rear cassette come off and fit on another hub? Why did you suggest Sun CR-18 rims?"
Mine looks almost identical to yours oddjob2. It's like they were made by the same people.
"Thanks Jeff. If I go anachronistic can I just replace the whole wheels? Will the rear cassette come off and fit on another hub? Why did you suggest Sun CR-18 rims?"
Mine looks almost identical to yours oddjob2. It's like they were made by the same people.
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You guys are great. The following is what I was trying to post before I read The Albert Einstein quote. I keep getting logged off before I can finish typing:
"Thanks Jeff. If I go anachronistic can I just replace the whole wheels? Will the rear cassette come off and fit on another hub? Why did you suggest Sun CR-18 rims?"
"Thanks Jeff. If I go anachronistic can I just replace the whole wheels? Will the rear cassette come off and fit on another hub? Why did you suggest Sun CR-18 rims?"
By The Way... the cogs on the back are a freewheel not a cassette. That'll matter for what you're looking for. A freewheel hub just has threads to thread on the freewheel, a freehub has the 'drum' thing that the cassette cogs slide on to.
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Those rims are among the few 27" wheels still made. Those wheels that are linked to have been used by a lot of people here to good review.
By The Way... the cogs on the back are a freewheel not a cassette. That'll matter for what you're looking for. A freewheel hub just has threads to thread on the freewheel, a freehub has the 'drum' thing that the cassette cogs slide on to.
By The Way... the cogs on the back are a freewheel not a cassette. That'll matter for what you're looking for. A freewheel hub just has threads to thread on the freewheel, a freehub has the 'drum' thing that the cassette cogs slide on to.
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I'm not doing this to be pedantic- if you're looking for a freewheel and you order a "cassette" you're not going to get what you need.
I'm not so good at describing this- it took me a while to understand the difference. Google 'the difference between freewheel and cassette' and see if it makes sense to you.
You can really tell when you see the hub- and notice the cassette cogs are individual and held together with a zip tie- while the freewheel cogs are all on the freewheel body
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There's no zip tie holding my cogs together.
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Sorry, I was referring to the picture I linked to...
Also, I'm sorry to drag this away from the discussion of your bike!
Also, I'm sorry to drag this away from the discussion of your bike!
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Modern tires will blow off the original non-hooked bead rims if you exceed ~75lbs of pressure. Keep the pressure at that or less and you'll be fine on the stock rims.