xuwol7

I know the PX-10 is tops for road bikes, the Canyon Express is tops for mountain bikes and probably the UO-8 hi-ten is at the bottom (great riding bike though), but does anyone have a link or know what the Peugeot lineage is?

I am guessing that the 531 and Tange 1 is the best tubing so probably it goes by the frame material.

Thanks

XU

jimmuller 

The UO-8 was not the "bottom". Okay, it was near the bottom for a true road bike, but not the bottom.

Grand Bois

It depends on what time frame you're talking about. The PX10 was not always "tops for road bikes". Why not study the online catalogs?

In the early seventies it was AO8, UO8, PA10, PR10 and then PX10.

John E

True. By 1980 the PR10 was designated PKN-10.

ejaggers

I’m glad you started this thread because I’d like to know also. I actually searched the web to find C&V models with back then prices, and only found models.

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Roger M

Late 70s brought a UO10, and maybe a UO9(both were slight upgrades from the UO8).

1980 or 81 was the beginning of Super Vitus 980 tubes for Peugeot. The PSV 10 was the model designation. I was just below the PX 10 I believe.

jimmuller 

Me too, a little. Back when I entered the lightweight bike game only the AO-8, UO-8, and PX-10 were available in the shops where I lived. If there were others I never saw them in the LBSs. I went for a long time not even thinking about the Peugeot models because I wasn't in the market for another bike. I did notice the UO-9 and UO-10 but they were different from the UO-8 only in detail AFAIK. Now I see all sorts of models with names like Iseran instead of number/letter combinations. So I have no idea how they all fit together. Not that I'm looking for another Peugeot. I'm just curious.

3alarmer 

.
...unpossible question to answer. In addition to all the model designation changes,
there were some bikes sold only in Europe, and some better touring geometries that
you never hear much about. The suggestion to look at online catalogs is a sound one.

Certainly they changed over the years, in both model designation and geometry.

The good ones, obviously, were made with the best frame tubing and components.

There were PY-10's in there for a while, that were very high end and custom ordered, IIRC.

3alarmer 

Cycles Rétro-Peugeot

Catalogs

Peugeot Bicycle History

...also, look on Velobase. and maybe Classic Rendezvous.

noglider 

Yup. The UO9 had cotterless cranks but still had steel rims. The UO10 had aluminum rims. All three (UO8, UO9, and UO10) had the exact same frame.

Dawes-man

For me, the best Peugeot in 1975 was the PX 60

[IMG]Peugeot PX60 - as of December 28th 2013 - set up for touring by Dawes-man, on Flickr[/IMG]

big chainring 

From what I've learned from looking at ads on craigslist, if its a white bike with black derailleurs, its a PX-10. And back in '72-73, they sold fir like $1000. Bum bars and sprung mattress saddle as original equipment, all in mint condition.

noglider 

Very nice!

photogravity

There was also a PX-8 somewhere in the pecking order.

xuwol7

Indeed an almost impossible and daunting task of creating a pecking order since they have been making bicycles since the 1880's.

I have studied on line catalogs and that gives me a somewhat rough idea and there are a lot of Peugeot experts here that help me make sense of what I think I may have learned.

I am trying to create a "rough idea" of the Peugeots' I encounter and there are certainly many good posts already.

I wish there was a dedicated website like there is for Gitane, but alas this is the best place for my inquisitive nature.

I have rode a lot of bikes in my 50yrs and I seem to favor the Peugeots for their quality and their ride.
Thanks for indulging a Peugeot fan...lol

ejaggers

I can’t speak for the op, but I started a similar thread about Schwinn. I wasn’t interested in the catalog order, I'd like to know what your opinion is. In fact I use the phrase, “What’s the most desirable”. The reason for this is exactly what both of you have stated above. As a newbie, I’m looking for ballpark figures rather than exact science.

noglider 

They sold to various markets, and I expect each market had its own catalog. In France, I saw tons of models I've never seen here in the US. France didn't import many bikes from other countries. They didn't need to, as so many bikes were produced domestically. Peugeot was the top producer in that market, a giant (but not Giant).

3alarmer 

...if you were a French colonial possession, like Viet Nam, you ended up with Peugeot bicycles as well.

3alarmer 

...again, this varies with personal taste. I enjoy riding around on some of the older, longer wheel based bicycle cycles
that were produced in the 60's-70's, but do not necessarily do that to the exclusion of other geometries.

Your best bet on stuff like this, especially given the limitations in the used bike marketplace in terms of Craigslist,
where there will probably not be all that many top end bikes that come up at good prices that are your size, is to
gain some personal knowledge and experience with regard to frame tubing, components, dropouts and other frame
doodads, and stuff like that. You'll end up looking at some stuff that flies under the radar, and it will be educational.

IOW, do your homework and look at a lot of bicycles. Eventually, you develop a feel and an eye for what works for you.

3alarmer 

Home.html..........is @miamijim's site. He posts here pretty regularly.. Thanks @miamijim

Dawes-man

Thank you, noglider. It's a very comfortable bike.

miamijim

I'm working on something to post...trying to convert a Works database to Office (Access?) then I'll post my 'cheat sheet'.

SJX426 

Ouch!

miamijim

PLEASE DO NOT ALTER THIS DATABASE IF YOU SEE AN ERROR LET ME KNOW AND I'LL CHANGE IT

I have the following files in a Microsoft Works database. Its a searchable database so all you have to do is enter a few filters and it should spit out the corresponding models. If I can mange to convert it to Access, or is someone knows how to do it I'll email the file to you.

The easiest way to use the 'cheat sheet':

1. Begin with decals. The different 'types' can be found on my website. I made up the types myself, they're not 'official' Peugeot.
2. Tubing. If there's a tubing decal filter with it. Use the main tube decal, for the intent of this database it doesn't matter if its 3 tubes or not.
3. Shifters. This is usually my third filter

Bikes prior to '74 more or less follow the '74 filters.

ejaggers

Now that's pretty cool!!! I cut this into a word doc so I could see it more plainly. Still way too much info for the spirit of this post. Since you’ve put this much effort into this, surely you have an opinion, so let’s hear it. What’s the C&V Peugeot pecking order???

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