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    Another one of Dad's bikes

    My brother just brought me the last bike my dad bought for himself. 80's Bianchi in great condition but way to small for me to ride... Thinking finding a frame set and adding this one to the frame doesn't fit pass it on thread. The group is a combination of Ofmega and Suntour with Ambrosio 19 clinchers.

    Can't figure the size difference between the Carlton a 57 cm and the Bianchi a 53.5 cm from a quick measurement this morning. I believe the Carlton may have been a little big on him. This will give me something to do in the next couple months when the weather starts to cool off a little here in Florida
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    Bianchi looks more like a 55-56cm, pretty bike, I like the color.

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    That would make more sense but measured 21" c-c on the seat tube and the Carlton a 57 dwarf's it side by side.

    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
    Bianchi looks more like a 55-56cm, pretty bike, I like the color.

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    It wouldn't be hard to get that bike to fit you with a nitto technomic stem and a longer seatpost if you are attached to the bike. I still ride my Dad's bikes regularly.

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    Very true but im not as attached to this one as the Carlton.

    Quote Originally Posted by bikemig View Post
    It wouldn't be hard to get that bike to fit you with a nitto technomic stem and a longer seatpost if you are attached to the bike. I still ride my Dad's bikes regularly.

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    That looks like '87 Campione de Italia w/ Suntour Cyclone right? Bianchis are usually measured C 2 T and these came in 50, 53, 56, 59, actually all the Formula II frame came in those 4 sizes that year.

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    You are spot on Bianchigirll. 87 with Suntour cyclone. Size measured 21.5 c-t converts to 54.6 so not a 53 and not a 56 ??
    Kinda of lost on that detail??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
    That looks like '87 Campione de Italia w/ Suntour Cyclone right? Bianchis are usually measured C 2 T and these came in 50, 53, 56, 59, actually all the Formula II frame came in those 4 sizes that year.


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    Good looking bike, looks like a pearl color. Nice!
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    I suspect that the Carlton was an older bike? (70's or very early 80's?)....
    I think people rode bigger frames in the 60's and 70's. By the 80's there was a movement in sport/competitive riding towards riding the smallest frames one can fit in, to save weight and to have shorter frame tubes that usually translates to a stiffer frame. So it's not surprising that your dad will have a smaller frame under him by the 80's..... Pros seem to ride even smaller frames these days to what they might have in the 80's. I remember the comments made about Andy Schleck in the TDF a couple of years ago, where the TV commentators were really amazed how small the bike frame he was riding.....

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    Could you please post a drive-side picture? That's the best introduction to a bike of any kind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
    That looks like '87 Campione de Italia w/ Suntour Cyclone right? Bianchis are usually measured C 2 T and these came in 50, 53, 56, 59, actually all the Formula II frame came in those 4 sizes that year.

    Interesting my 96 RC frame is 55 square, CtC lists as a 55 in the catalog.......

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    Makes sense when you think about it. The Carlton is a 1967.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chombi View Post
    I suspect that the Carlton was an older bike? (70's or very early 80's?)....
    I think people rode bigger frames in the 60's and 70's. By the 80's there was a movement in sport/competitive riding towards riding the smallest frames one can fit in, to save weight and to have shorter frame tubes that usually translates to a stiffer frame. So it's not surprising that your dad will have a smaller frame under him by the 80's..... Pros seem to ride even smaller frames these days to what they might have in the 80's. I remember the comments made about Andy Schleck in the TDF a couple of years ago, where the TV commentators were really amazed how small the bike frame he was riding.....

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    The reason we rode large frames back in the day was, seat posts were short!
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    When i bought a Campagnolo seatpost for the Carlton i thought it was cut then realized it wasn't and the original wasn't much longer. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skoda2 View Post
    The reason we rode large frames back in the day was, seat posts were short!
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    Bianchigirll -

    what be those grey calipers? modolo speedy?

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    Modolo Start.

    Quote Originally Posted by juvela View Post
    Bianchigirll -

    what be those grey calipers? modolo speedy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kflagg View Post
    Modolo Start.
    thanks very much kflagg!

    had not previously seen a modolo model with that finish.

    much appreciated.

    wrt frame size measurement question. wonder if perhaps it is built with a high shell. this would tend to make the seat tube length small in relation to the standover height. agree with other posters that the head makes it look like it would be about 56 c-t-t.

    a fine looking bicycle; thank you for posting.

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    For what it's worth, my Bianchi of about that vintage is also very nearly 55cm C-T. Original equipment = Modolo Speedy brakes, Campag. NR derailleurs, Campag. road quill pedals, Ofmega hubs, Ofmega CX crankset, same under-BB cable routing. Downtube and seat tube decals are in the same locations as yours, but with simpler graphics -- a short line extending in before the B and after the final I.

    With dual water bottle mounts and the pump peg on the back of the head tube, and the different decal graphics, I believe yours is the next generation right after mine.

    I have yet to sort out the various model names, etc. I do like your color, although my charcoal is not bad, either.
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    wrt Campag pillars, at least of the R/NR/SR varieties -

    they made them in two lengths - 140mm and 180mm. since wholesalers and retailers needed to keep all fourteen diameters in stock they were typcially loathe to double their inventory with two lengths.

    when buying used machines it not unusual to find that the pillar has been truncated with a hack saw for "super leggero" purposes...

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