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Old 09-11-14, 09:14 PM
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Keep vintage or upgrade?

Have this bike, Bridgestone! Love the bike, the ride is almost as good as my CF and the fit is better than any bike I ever had. Would like to have brifters and better wheels. The frame as you can see has some rust, but not anything that can't be handle. I was thinking of stripping it and send it for painting. Questions:

1. I have a Shimano dura Ace 2X9 brifters on hand, can I use other less expensive groups with this brifters or am I restricted to dura ace?

2. Thinking of painting it red, however, if I could find decals, I may be incline to keep it original scheme colors. Any one knows where to get the original stickers? And any recommendations on places to send the frame for painting? Would like good quality.

3. Have any body ran into trouble by cold forging the rear triangle to fit the wider hubs of modern bikes? Any videos or how to would be appreciated!

Sorry, unable to load pictures at this time. When I get home I'll take some pictures and upload.

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Upgrading is a good idea, in my opinion, providing that you don't do something that is irreversible, such as cutting something off of the frame set. Even repainting can fall into this category...



You will need a nine speed cassette to work with the Brifters - either Shimano or Shram will work. Try the hub into the drops and see how tough it is to install. If you need to spread the stays, it is an easy thing to do but ensure that you keep them centered to the center line of the bike. A simple piece of string, a tape measure and a four foot piece of two by four can get the job done.

I have upgraded a few bikes and always appreciate the improved user friendly qualities that the upgrade offered...
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This site has some
They could probably help with reproductions if they don't have the ones you need

I'd go with an upgrade
ive been wanting to modernize my bridgestone too.
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Originally Posted by Double0757

3. Have any body ran into trouble by cold forging the rear triangle to fit the wider hubs of modern bikes? Any videos or how to would be appreciated!
Setting the rear triangle so the dropouts fit a modern hub is not a problem. See Sheldon's article on cold setting, steel is very forgiving.

After setting the frame, aligning the dropouts is a good idea. Campy makes a tool for that.

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I've never cold-set a rear, and have "upgraded" about 30 steel bikes to wider rear, 126 to 130.
The proper way is, as the 'gnome says, to cold set.

Re: modern. With ribble.uk at $407 for a 5700 group (backordered), it's hard to beat and worth the wait.

Re: 9-sp DA. No, your 9sp DA STI's will not play nice with other 9sp RD's.
If you go that route, spend the $50-$75 on a 7700 DA RD to match up.
9sp Dura Ace is still the smoothest shifting STI's I've ever had, light and right.
If the hoods are good, you're good to go.

Re: paint and decals. If it's not an RB-1, and in many cases, even if it is, nothing wrong with repaint and re-decal.
If it's the 1 in 500 that's show-worth, maybe not, IF you regularly show the bike.
I've been to a few shows, and never seen a Bridgestone, and very few Japanese bikes.
Even then, most of the folks at the shows poo-poo the Japanese bikes in favor of Italians and Paramountitis.

If it's a rider, and it sounds like it, then paint it, decal it, upgrade it, and ride the durn thing.
It's already the bike you like, so do what you want to ride it "like new."
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As of yesterday the 5700 group in black was in stock. Silver was iffy. I've never regretted upgrading a bike, as long as you keep the original parts available in case the next buyer wants them. Even then, consider if the bike is one that will have original collectibility. Painting it would largely depend on any loss of value, or your concern about any loss of value.

It's your bike, do as you want with it. Making it one that you ride more often is a good idea IMO>
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Originally Posted by MacGyverBurrito
Results for Bridgestone

This site has some
They could probably help with reproductions if they don't have the ones you need

I'd go with an upgrade
ive been wanting to modernize my bridgestone too.
Was able to find the exact decals Bridgestone 700 decal set of 7 (sku 81)
Thanks!

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I've never cold-set a rear, and have "upgraded" about 30 steel bikes to wider rear, 126 to 130.
The proper way is, as the 'gnome says, to cold set.

Re: modern. With ribble.uk at $407 for a 5700 group (backordered), it's hard to beat and worth the wait.

Re: 9-sp DA. No, your 9sp DA STI's will not play nice with other 9sp RD's.
If you go that route, spend the $50-$75 on a 7700 DA RD to match up.
9sp Dura Ace is still the smoothest shifting STI's I've ever had, light and right.
If the hoods are good, you're good to go.

Re: paint and decals. If it's not an RB-1, and in many cases, even if it is, nothing wrong with repaint and re-decal.
If it's the 1 in 500 that's show-worth, maybe not, IF you regularly show the bike.
I've been to a few shows, and never seen a Bridgestone, and very few Japanese bikes.
Even then, most of the folks at the shows poo-poo the Japanese bikes in favor of Italians and Paramountitis.

If it's a rider, and it sounds like it, then paint it, decal it, upgrade it, and ride the durn thing.
It's already the bike you like, so do what you want to ride it "like new."
Thanks! You made my mind! It's an upgrade! I can se riding retro and it's cool, but the frame is asking to be upgraded and ridden!

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As of yesterday the 5700 group in black was in stock. Silver was iffy. I've never regretted upgrading a bike, as long as you keep the original parts available in case the next buyer wants them. Even then, consider if the bike is one that will have original collectibility. Painting it would largely depend on any loss of value, or your concern about any loss of value.

It's your bike, do as you want with it. Making it one that you ride more often is a good idea IMO>
I do agree that if it was valuable, it would be a mistake to upgrade, but then if it was, it should be display at home or in a museum for the enjoyment of many IMO. The only enjoyment this bike brings is when it's ridden!

I think I would paint it in original colors and go with the 5700 DA group in silver to go with the Crome fork. Better seat and lighter spd pedals and new hub, rim and tires. I would show pictures here when done.

Only thing I need now is a place to send it for painting! Any suggestions?

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