Vintage Road Bicycles - What Do You Like About Them..?
09-15-14, 12:15 AM
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09-15-14, 12:34 AM
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It makes you go faster!
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09-15-14, 01:54 AM
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A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
09-15-14, 05:50 AM
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"MODERN" army boots?
That's a low blow RB. And a poisonal attak on me mudder to boot!
(No pun intended)
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09-15-14, 05:51 AM
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Tell your wife she should put a bag over her head because her dress is so ugly.
People are proud of their possessions. They are a reflection of themselves.
As for Schwinns, I have no idea what people say about them. I am not interested in those threads. I don't spend my time reading them, let alone posting insults in them.
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09-15-14, 06:01 AM
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I usually get up early in the morning and with coffee in hand I go out to my shop and when I open the door I am surrounded by these old friends; they whisper of days past, of roads and paths they have travelled, and carry with them the memories of many lifetimes of cycling.
It smells like leather and grease, oil, flux, canvas, and rubber. I am also surrounded by walls covered in tools, parts, and bins and shelves that are overflowing with bright and shiny parts that some have described as being like jewellery, and they wait for the right build or someone who needs them.
It is my happy place.
Almost every day, I will take one or two of them out for a ride because they are not wall hangers... I might go racing down the road on my handbuilt Ron Cooper or I might take one of my vintage Raleighs or the Garlatti out, or Edith and I might go and take a ride in the valley and even though she is 57 years old she does not know it.
People will stop and ask about these beautiful old bicycles because they are often surprised to see bicycles that are 40, 50, and 60 years old out on the road... the small wheeled bicycles and folders always attract attention because they are still relatively unusual and there is not one of those that is younger than 35 years old.
My daily driver is a 1966 Moulten F.
Because I run a shop I get to work on some rather impressive bicycles and the ones that impress me most are the vintage models and the newer handbuilt models that I see... they have the fizz that many other modern bicycles simply lack.
It smells like leather and grease, oil, flux, canvas, and rubber. I am also surrounded by walls covered in tools, parts, and bins and shelves that are overflowing with bright and shiny parts that some have described as being like jewellery, and they wait for the right build or someone who needs them.
It is my happy place.
Almost every day, I will take one or two of them out for a ride because they are not wall hangers... I might go racing down the road on my handbuilt Ron Cooper or I might take one of my vintage Raleighs or the Garlatti out, or Edith and I might go and take a ride in the valley and even though she is 57 years old she does not know it.
People will stop and ask about these beautiful old bicycles because they are often surprised to see bicycles that are 40, 50, and 60 years old out on the road... the small wheeled bicycles and folders always attract attention because they are still relatively unusual and there is not one of those that is younger than 35 years old.
My daily driver is a 1966 Moulten F.
Because I run a shop I get to work on some rather impressive bicycles and the ones that impress me most are the vintage models and the newer handbuilt models that I see... they have the fizz that many other modern bicycles simply lack.
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09-15-14, 06:07 AM
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What I like about them? If I need to find a part I can usually find a whole bike for the price of it's counterpart in updated version. But then again I flip them to buy those new parts...
09-15-14, 07:39 AM
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09-15-14, 07:58 AM
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But back to why I like vintage bikes -it's mainly is because I'm cheap. I'll never be able to stomach forking over the mega cash for top-line cutting-edge production cycling equipment that is coming out the day after tomorrow. But that same equipment 20 years from now is often thrown out/discarded by folks and can be found for free or almost free by folks like us who know what we are looking at.
09-15-14, 08:08 AM
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I am in a time capsule. My newest bike is 17 years old and not anywhere near top of the line. The newest top of the line bike is from 1991 and a dream to ride. I can really appreciate it. I also enjoy riding a 70's bike because it takes me back to those fond memories and is very familiar even with the performance, good or frustrating.
09-15-14, 08:35 AM
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Language is limited. One of the ways we get around that limitation when describing something is by describing what it is not. "I love the lines on the Ferrari 250 GTO; the F-40, on the other hand, is an ugly red box." It adds clarity to the expression of what you do like by pointing to a contrasting object. Foucault looked at this very deeply in his exploration of language and ideas.
I've tried to stay out of this little spat, thinking it would blow over. But you just can't let it go. So here's my two cents: You're wrong. He wasn't being offensive. Drop it and let's all get on with our C&V lives.
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09-15-14, 08:46 AM
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Any low cost brake levers out there?
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Any low cost brake levers out there?
Not that there's anything wrong with going to newer levers, which many people find more comfortable.
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09-15-14, 09:11 AM
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I don't know, modern combat boots are more comfortable than old school Corcorans or Jungle Boots.
But IMO, Jungle Boots are the cat's pyjamas. Even in the desert, we just melted an MRE bag into the vent holes to keep the sand from filling the boots.
But IMO, Jungle Boots are the cat's pyjamas. Even in the desert, we just melted an MRE bag into the vent holes to keep the sand from filling the boots.
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Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!
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Nothing, I just want a more comfort. My wife has a new bike and I like her briffters. I am going to keep the down tube shifters, I just want new brake levers. I would keep these if the cable did not come out the top. This I could just grip them.
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Some carbon fiber is beautiful
But some is more beautiful than others
Eye of the beholder? But of course.
But some is more beautiful than others
Eye of the beholder? But of course.
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@Split2874 I would relocate the levers and rotate the bars per the typical convention first. Tektro levers can be used ILO the old school ones.
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09-15-14, 11:13 AM
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Best. Driver. Ever.
(Side Note: If you run across the documentary, "Senna," take time to watch. Remarkable story.)
(Side Note: If you run across the documentary, "Senna," take time to watch. Remarkable story.)
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09-15-14, 11:23 AM
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They look like bikes.
They act like bikes.
They have shiny stuff on them.
They go great with T-shirts.
No helmets match them.
A wheel looks like a wheel.
Quill stems.
Round seatposts not much bigger than the round seat tubes.
Seat stay caps.
Lugs which are actually functional.
Quieter when passing younger riders on modern bikes.
No Carbon Echo.o.o.o.o.
Snob factor.
I look less ridiculous.
People ignore them.
Hipsters give me street cred.
Shops don't try to sell me anything.
They look cheap and old to my wife.
Cable routing.
On a C&V bike, the builder is having a glass of wine at lunch, and thinking about Sophia. Vinny chose the color because it reminds him of bullfights. Vito chose the font because he saw it on a book cover. Hans chose the lugs because he has just the right files. Jack chose the saddle because he's thinking about Sharon's. Passion.
On a modern bike, the layup guy is texting on his smart phone while double-checking the statistical process control. The graphic design guy is looking over focus group data, trying to figure out what it will look like on TV, in motion. A wind tunnel chose the shape. No ass in the world chose that saddle.
They act like bikes.
They have shiny stuff on them.
They go great with T-shirts.
No helmets match them.
A wheel looks like a wheel.
Quill stems.
Round seatposts not much bigger than the round seat tubes.
Seat stay caps.
Lugs which are actually functional.
Quieter when passing younger riders on modern bikes.
No Carbon Echo.o.o.o.o.
Snob factor.
I look less ridiculous.
People ignore them.
Hipsters give me street cred.
Shops don't try to sell me anything.
They look cheap and old to my wife.
Cable routing.
On a C&V bike, the builder is having a glass of wine at lunch, and thinking about Sophia. Vinny chose the color because it reminds him of bullfights. Vito chose the font because he saw it on a book cover. Hans chose the lugs because he has just the right files. Jack chose the saddle because he's thinking about Sharon's. Passion.
On a modern bike, the layup guy is texting on his smart phone while double-checking the statistical process control. The graphic design guy is looking over focus group data, trying to figure out what it will look like on TV, in motion. A wind tunnel chose the shape. No ass in the world chose that saddle.
Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver 
I usually get up early in the morning and with coffee in hand I go out to my shop and when I open the door I am surrounded by these old friends; they whisper of days past, of roads and paths they have travelled, and carry with them the memories of many lifetimes of cycling.
It smells like leather and grease, oil, flux, canvas, and rubber. I am also surrounded by walls covered in tools, parts, and bins and shelves that are overflowing with bright and shiny parts that some have described as being like jewellery, and they wait for the right build or someone who needs them.
It is my happy place.
Almost every day, I will take one or two of them out for a ride because they are not wall hangers... I might go racing down the road on my handbuilt Ron Cooper or I might take one of my vintage Raleighs or the Garlatti out, or Edith and I might go and take a ride in the valley and even though she is 57 years old she does not know it.
People will stop and ask about these beautiful old bicycles because they are often surprised to see bicycles that are 40, 50, and 60 years old out on the road... the small wheeled bicycles and folders always attract attention because they are still relatively unusual and there is not one of those that is younger than 35 years old.
My daily driver is a 1966 Moulten F.
Because I run a shop I get to work on some rather impressive bicycles and the ones that impress me most are the vintage models and the newer handbuilt models that I see... they have the fizz that many other modern bicycles simply lack.
Oh, my answer to the question, everything.