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    Unicanitor saddles at saddlewax.com

    I started putting together a bicycle saddle reference site at Saddle Makers | saddlewax.com
    in the hope that it would eventually become a community effort.

    For now I am concentrating on the Unicanitor page at http://www.saddlewax.com/italy/unica/

    If anybody has catalog pages, adverts, price lists, good photos, corrections or other information about Unicanitor saddles, please send them to amir@saddlewax.com.

    In particular, I could use dating information for each model.
    Unicanitor frames, logos, stampings, etc. changed over time, so it would be nice to know what distinguishes one generation from another.

    Thanks in advance.
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    Amir,

    Great website! Very nice and well organized! You should describe your hubs as well as the beautiful pictures. Speaking of which I've been saving those ruined inner Regina bodies for you.

    I will email you about accessing my photobucket. I only collect Brooks and other interesting leather saddles, so I can't help with the Unicanitors. I do have a few limited edition Brooks, and RHM #10 which recovers an Ideale aluminum frame. I'll be glad to share my pictures.

    On the Brooks listings, I noticed you don't have the B5N...



    ...and the standard B15.



    But this is off topic. Hope you don't mind.
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    That is a very nice site, Amir. Thanks for posting that.

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    Thanks Bob

    I just noticed that the links were acting up

    This should do it: Saddle Makers | saddlewax.com then click on the Unicanitor logo

    Amir

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    Very cool, thanks. I have always wondered about the age of my Unicanitor. It is a Mod. 75 number 2 (the suede style leather), but it does not say cinelli on the back I don't think. I don't have reason to believe it ever did as it is in very good condition and likely was not ridden much. I don't ride it and never have. It's on a display bike.
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    Okay, I have to ask. What is meant by "unicantor"? I've done online search to no avail. How is a unicantor saddle different than a no -unicantor? Thank you so much in advance.

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    Check out the subject website. Tells the story behind them.

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    Very nice project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velocivixen View Post
    Okay, I have to ask. What is meant by "unicantor"? I've done online search to no avail. How is a unicantor saddle different than a no -unicantor? Thank you so much in advance.
    Well, for a start, you're not spelling it right, and the misspelling may suggest false etymologies.

    The correct spelling, unicanitor, started out as two weird: unica nitor. Beyond that... check the site!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhm View Post
    Well, for a start, you're not spelling it right, and the misspelling may suggest false etymologies.

    The correct spelling, unicanitor, started out as two weird: unica nitor. Beyond that... check the site!
    Thank you. I will. I looked it up the way I spelled it and referred me to sites selling them. I looked at those but it didn't give me any clues.


    OK, so it keeps referring me to Cinelli pages. I'm supposing that it's a one piece molded saddle.
    Last edited by Velocivixen; 12-15-14 at 07:58 PM. Reason: added information

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    Back in the 70's people on the east coast pronounced Unicanitor, not as "You-Ni-Ka-Night-Or" but as "You-Ni-Kantor".
    It turned into a generic name for plain plastic shell saddles. This I know from experience.

    Urban legend has it that some wise guy picked up on that and made a run of knock-offs in Mexico and called them Unicantors.
    If anybody has proof, please send photos.

    If you google "Unicantor" today, you'll see lots of instances of shops selling Cinelli Unicanitor branded saddles as "Unicantors".
    Go figure.

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    Also see the plastic Unica-Nitor :
    VeloBase.com - Component: Unica-Nitor 50

    The hollow manganese rail upgrade by Hi-E is interesting to note.

    From v-base:
    Unica-Nitor made two plastic models of saddles, the 50 (undrilled) and the 55 (drilled under the rump-contact points). Many of us drilled ours even more, as it lightened them a tiny bit, and more importantly softened the hard plastic enough to make them almost comfortable. The Unica-Nitor brand was purchased by Cinelli in the late 50's or early 60's, but Cinelli kept the Unica-Nitor branding on the saddles, as the covered models were very popular. If you have one of those with a torn or worn-out cover, you can remove the cover and padding and underneath it (at least on the 60's models) you will find one of these Unica-Nitor 50 saddles, complete with logo. The model shown in the pic has been lightened substantially by installing a hollow manganese-tubed seat-rail assembly made by Harlan Meyer (Hi-E Incorporated of Nashville TN). He made a replacement seat rail for the Cool Gear line of seats that, with minor modifications, would also fit the solid-steel-railed Unica-Nitor saddles.

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    Thanks for the tip. Now I know what to look for.

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    I used to be able to ride these, but no more. Bought a second hand Cinelli #3 a few years ago, as I used to like the one I had in the late 70's. But couldn't get used to the thing. You can't teach and old butt new tricks, I guess.

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    Jeff Archer from First Flight Bicycles gave this link to his Hi-E collection: MOMBAT: Hi-E History
    It includes a photo of Hi-E's Cool Gear saddle rails (tubular steel).

    Amir

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    Here's an early NITOR saddle.

    Nitor.jpg

    I've seen at least one fake "Hecho In Mexico" Unicanitor back in the mid 1970s, also, Mexicanitor saddles...

    This "Unicamex" saddle came on a bike that I bought. (Amir - I'll send you some more pictures)

    UnicamexSaddle3.jpg

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    Thanks Chas

    saddle posted at the bottom of Unica + Nitor | saddlewax.com

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    Hi Amir, nice site! Perhaps you can add to the unica nitor text that unica nitor is (pig)latin for "the only one I trust".

    I'm a very happy mod. 55 rider btw, it's a great saddle.
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    I just sourced a mod 55 for my 1972 Hetchins, same saddle I rode as a teenager. Love it!

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    Google translate gives this: "unique brilliance"

    No accident.

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    It's all coming back to me... The Mexican knockoff "Unicanitor" saddles and other knockoff Italian products were probably marketed by Lambertini. West Coast Cycles who imported Windsor bikes from Mexico was probably involved in this too.

    There were a number of Italian cycling connections in Mexico including Benotto.

    The first of these knockoff saddles that I saw were marked "Unicanitor Heco In Mexico". The name changed to Mexicanitor and then Unicamex. I still have an almost new Unicamex saddle.

    Lambertini marketed knockoff REG water bottles, cages and bar end plugs. They also sold knockoff Sergal shorts and jerseys made of acrylic instead of wool.

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    Theres a reproduction Now From Cinelli , but Italy is as Prone to off shore as other company places .

    So there is a Campagnolo Factory in Romania .. Now

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    Your the best

    and properly quoted at Unicantor | saddlewax.com

    Thanks

    Amir

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