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12-17-14, 03:06 PM
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Article 6 - Criteria for admission
Only cyclists with "L’Eroica" bicycles will be permitted to participate.
"L’Eroica" bicycles are bicycles which have all the following characteristics:
- road racing bikes, built before 1987 (not cycle-cross or time trial bikes);
- steel frame (the only aluminium frame bikes permitted are ALAN or VITUS with either screwed or glued joints);
- gear shift levers on the down tube of the frame (exceptionally, only pre-1980 bar-end gear shifts are allowed);
- pedals with toe clips and fitted straps (quick release pedals are not allowed, except Cinelli M71 pedals);
- passage of brake cables outside the handlebars (the passage of cables inside the frame is acceptable);
- wheels must have at least 32 spokes with a low profile (less than 20 mm).
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12-17-14, 03:14 PM
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Do they make downtube shifters for 11 speed?
Article 6 - Criteria for admission
Only cyclists with "L’Eroica" bicycles will be permitted to participate.
"L’Eroica" bicycles are bicycles which have all the following characteristics:
Article 6 - Criteria for admission
Only cyclists with "L’Eroica" bicycles will be permitted to participate.
"L’Eroica" bicycles are bicycles which have all the following characteristics:
- road racing bikes, built before 1987 (not cycle-cross or time trial bikes);
- steel frame (the only aluminium frame bikes permitted are ALAN or VITUS with either screwed or glued joints);
- gear shift levers on the down tube of the frame (exceptionally, only pre-1980 bar-end gear shifts are allowed);
- pedals with toe clips and fitted straps (quick release pedals are not allowed, except Cinelli M71 pedals);
- passage of brake cables outside the handlebars (the passage of cables inside the frame is acceptable);
- wheels must have at least 32 spokes with a low profile (less than 20 mm).
I guess I'll just have to find a baby blue Colnago
12-17-14, 03:32 PM
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12-17-14, 03:33 PM
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As to what bikes would be appropriate, in those days racing bikes had lots of clearance, and mudguard eyelets, pretty much what we would call a touring bike today. So the bike description is a bit loose, and the organizers aren't really that fussy as long as you don't get too modern. I've ridden both the Italian and English versions on older racing bikes, with triple cranks. No one seemed to blink at the triple cranks, and it sure makes it easier to ride up a steep gravel hill. If you aren't geared low enough and have to stand up, you will just spin your rear wheel. I was able to ride up every hill on the Italian and English events, past many riders walking their bikes. I ride wood wheels on these events. Turns out to be a good thing. The wood does not heat up on the long descents, which would soften the glue holding your tubulars on. Plus they ride really nice. Veloflex Roubaix and FMB Paris Roubaix are my tires of choice, though I have some Challenge L'Eroicas to try out now too. They are the biggest at 30 mm wide. See you in SLO!
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12-17-14, 03:35 PM
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Giancarlo Brocci made an announcement concerning the California event on his Facebook page today. That's official enough for me ;-)
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12-17-14, 03:56 PM
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That is good. I was thinking a bit about the name usage… If they transfer information on how to run a good event, that will be even better.
12-17-14, 04:40 PM
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I think I will ride an old Italian race bike from '53-'54. Going to have to piece together that cottered bottom bracket first.
And some big tubulars.
Low gear will at this point be a 46 x 26, not optimal if I was going Modern, but its not 200 km either.
And some big tubulars.
Low gear will at this point be a 46 x 26, not optimal if I was going Modern, but its not 200 km either.
12-17-14, 04:46 PM
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This is what I rode in Italy. If you're patient, you can find a Magistroni crank that is compatible with TA rings, and have a great choice of gearing. I bought some NOS rings, and removed the anodizing from them with oven cleaner. This bike will never win a concours show award, but it's a blast to ride...
12-17-14, 05:03 PM
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This is what I rode in Italy. If you're patient, you can find a Magistroni crank that is compatible with TA rings, and have a great choice of gearing. I bought some NOS rings, and removed the anodizing from them with oven cleaner. This bike will never win a concours show award, but it's a blast to ride...
Those tires look the part though… but not inexpensive.
12-17-14, 06:21 PM
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I'll add a Red Clover Stronglight 93 triplitizer and run a 46, 42 & 30 half-step and a granny crankset with a 13-28 freewheel on my PX-10. Tires will be 700x32 Stampede Pass from Compass. Fear. No. Hill.
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12-17-14, 06:37 PM
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This 1987 distinction is important to me because I have a number of older C and V bikes, but the earliest ones (3 of them) are made exactly in 1987. I know by the official rules, the oldest bike you can ride is made in 1986. They say "older than 1987", so that eliminates 1987, but people who read these types of details are often sloppy about it - so the email in the OP says 1987 and older (not the same thing). Anyhoos, make what you want of it. The OP email has the mistake.
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Both tubular and clinchers/inter-tubes are allowed, the adjustment of the rear wheel with higher gears is allowed, due to the difficulty of the course.
12-17-14, 06:53 PM
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Lugged steel? - Fine
Downtube shifters? - Fine
Non-aero brake levers? - Fine
Toe clips? -Fine
Carbon/welded aluminum? - Not fine
STI/Ergo? - Not fine
Clipless? - Not fine
It ain't rocket science.
But since this event is not Fort Knox, I'm guessing you could sneak in an "illegal" bike. Pardon my French, but who in the **** and why in the ****? It's a vintage event. There are other rides that aren't vintage and there is no need to wring your hands if your bike is "legal" or not.
12-17-14, 06:56 PM
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Steel-frame bicycles, of new construction but with vintage characteristics, may be used (but joints must be welded in construction) and they must be assembled using vintage components (gear levers, handlebars, pedals, etc).
Both tubular and clinchers/inter-tubes are allowed, the adjustment of the rear wheel with higher gears is allowed, due to the difficulty of the course.
Both tubular and clinchers/inter-tubes are allowed, the adjustment of the rear wheel with higher gears is allowed, due to the difficulty of the course.
12-17-14, 06:57 PM
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I'm not going, but for ****s and giggles I did an Expedia. $475 round trip ORD to SBP. Not bad. But $200/night at the Holiday Inn Express in a town of 30,000. In my town of 40,000, the Holiday Inn is $90/night. I think there are a lot of hits for a hotel in Paso Robles and the price may be getting jacked.
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I will say that the rules exclude very few people who really want to attend.
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I like this from the L"Eroica rules:
"Mountain bikes are excluded because they did not exist before 1985."
https://en.eroica.it/regulation
I can understand that perhaps the Italian organizers don't know much about the history of mountain bikes but you'd hope for better from the CA organizers,
. Don't get me wrong. I understand why they want to keep mtbs out as this is for old road bikes but mtbs were available before 1985.
"Mountain bikes are excluded because they did not exist before 1985."
https://en.eroica.it/regulation
I can understand that perhaps the Italian organizers don't know much about the history of mountain bikes but you'd hope for better from the CA organizers,
. Don't get me wrong. I understand why they want to keep mtbs out as this is for old road bikes but mtbs were available before 1985.
12-17-14, 07:13 PM
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Link > L'EROICA*REGULATION
Even so, given the chance to ride the event with a new construction frame and vintage components meeting requirements, would take a pass. I'd much rather be riding on real vintage steel and going along with the promoter's idea. Wouldn't have to be the best of bikes either to enjoy the party. Plenty of awesome and genuine racers in the $300 range can be acquired.
12-17-14, 07:14 PM
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Actually, the bike is both near perfect for the event and a total violation of several rules.
I used the event as an excuse to buy and restore a 1971 PX10. N+1 is the ultimate solution to any situation.
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Looks like a fun event, and certainly no shortage of 'legal' bikes in The Lab. And golly, look at all those frequent flyer miles I have!
Need to take a close look at the calendar...
Need to take a close look at the calendar...
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