Famous bike frame builder. Whom are you opt for?
12-18-14, 09:17 AM
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Famous bike frame builder. Whom are you opt for?
Based on the few frame builder below, what is your criteria to choose one of them or more?
Stelbel
Freschi
Pogliaghi
Masi(faliero)
Umberto Marnati
Marastoni
Regards.
Stelbel
Freschi
Pogliaghi
Masi(faliero)
Umberto Marnati
Marastoni
Regards.
12-18-14, 10:41 AM
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Size and price and availability, the equation would be different for each. Freschi and Pogliaghi are kind of close though, at least for a time.
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12-18-14, 11:26 AM
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Most of my first pick builders are for one reason or another not building anymore. So if I were to choose a builder now it would be Bruce Gordon.
12-18-14, 11:46 AM
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Anyway, if it is current builders, I'd go with B. Gordon too. Love his colors and graphics.
12-18-14, 12:41 PM
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None of the ones mentioned above.
Have owned custom tandems built by:
Matt Assenmacher
Colin Laing
Co-Motion (Dwan Shepard)
Zona (Bob Davis)
Have owned custom tandems built by:
Matt Assenmacher
Colin Laing
Co-Motion (Dwan Shepard)
Zona (Bob Davis)
12-18-14, 02:35 PM
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I dig Masis.
I have bias here though.
I am adding a 1974 Masi to my little gathering of bikes in 2015.
A very pretty bicycle.
I have bias here though.
I am adding a 1974 Masi to my little gathering of bikes in 2015.
A very pretty bicycle.
12-18-14, 03:54 PM
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Dave Wages at Ellis Cycles
12-18-14, 04:32 PM
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I'd probably opt for ANY of those (even if it was chipped & rusty) over a modern disposabike, but I have a long & storied history with Masi.
Turns out I now live within 5 miles of where my beloved '84 Gran Criterium was made. My gf bought her a set of NOS Tricolor cranks for Xmas, so we're going to restore her from wall-hanger to rider again this Spring.
We just bought her a Masi Gran Corsa from the same year, and she built it up herself with only verbal guidance.
Turns out I now live within 5 miles of where my beloved '84 Gran Criterium was made. My gf bought her a set of NOS Tricolor cranks for Xmas, so we're going to restore her from wall-hanger to rider again this Spring.
We just bought her a Masi Gran Corsa from the same year, and she built it up herself with only verbal guidance.
12-18-14, 04:56 PM
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For a classic, I would pick Masi, I drooled over one displayed in a shop in CA back in 1973 or so. It was too small for my size and too large for my wallet at that time. But now, if I was going to spend part of the retirement fund, I would blow it on a custom Chris Bishop.
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Stelbel is cool, they did TIG as one the first builders, Stelio and his dad. I like wayward builders.
But allowing for people not on the list, I think Tomii is the hottest builder in town right now. He, or the guys at Firefly. They're really moving the goalposts in terms of bike aestethics.
But allowing for people not on the list, I think Tomii is the hottest builder in town right now. He, or the guys at Firefly. They're really moving the goalposts in terms of bike aestethics.
12-18-14, 05:07 PM
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Daniele Marnati, the son of Umberto, is still building, and his work is as fine as any you'll find.
I really like the look of Freschi that I've seen - I believe he was a builder for Pogliaghi, but memory might be off.
Marastoni would be on the short list of bikes I'd still be interested in.
If we're talking modern bikes, there are a lot of talented builders out there - who I picked would depend on where I lived and what kind of bike I wanted. I really like Mooney and Kirk. Spectrum ti is on the short list.
I really like the look of Freschi that I've seen - I believe he was a builder for Pogliaghi, but memory might be off.
Marastoni would be on the short list of bikes I'd still be interested in.
If we're talking modern bikes, there are a lot of talented builders out there - who I picked would depend on where I lived and what kind of bike I wanted. I really like Mooney and Kirk. Spectrum ti is on the short list.
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12-18-14, 05:46 PM
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Lots of nice bicycles mentioned here.
While there are quite a few modern steel brands I would consider, there are surprisingly few C&V bicycles I would go back and seek out.
A Masi jumps to the front for me based on a ride I had a few years ago.
A new rider had joined our Saturday coffee crew and he had a 1974 Masi. First of all, it was gorgeous.
Mostly Galli equipped.
Secondly, he was a very strong rider, certainly a couple notches ahead of me.
That bike/rider performed beautifully all day and after a late water break he asked me if I would like to swap bikes for the rest of the ride home.
I anxiously agreed and it was love at first ride. Smooth and self assured the Masi was, with just enough "pay attention to me" in the steering to keep my attention/respect.
I also noticed how it fit me perfectly. After the ride I mentioned that I enjoyed the bike and if he should decide to sell it someday, he should let me now.
Well, two weeks ago he let me know and it will be living with me after June when he returns to the United States.
I have two other "must haves" on my list and hopefully the McLean will be here by fall......
While there are quite a few modern steel brands I would consider, there are surprisingly few C&V bicycles I would go back and seek out.
A Masi jumps to the front for me based on a ride I had a few years ago.
A new rider had joined our Saturday coffee crew and he had a 1974 Masi. First of all, it was gorgeous.
Mostly Galli equipped.
Secondly, he was a very strong rider, certainly a couple notches ahead of me.
That bike/rider performed beautifully all day and after a late water break he asked me if I would like to swap bikes for the rest of the ride home.
I anxiously agreed and it was love at first ride. Smooth and self assured the Masi was, with just enough "pay attention to me" in the steering to keep my attention/respect.
I also noticed how it fit me perfectly. After the ride I mentioned that I enjoyed the bike and if he should decide to sell it someday, he should let me now.
Well, two weeks ago he let me know and it will be living with me after June when he returns to the United States.
I have two other "must haves" on my list and hopefully the McLean will be here by fall......
12-18-14, 05:50 PM
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Lots of nice bicycles mentioned here.
While there are quite a few modern steel brands I would consider, there are surprisingly few C&V bicycles I would go back and seek out.
A Masi jumps to the front for me based on a ride I had a few years ago.
A new rider had joined our Saturday coffee crew and he had a 1974 Masi. First of all, it was gorgeous.
Mostly Galli equipped.
Secondly, he was a very strong rider, certainly a couple notches ahead of me.
That bike/rider performed beautifully all day and after a late water break he asked me if I would like to swap bikes for the rest of the ride home.
I anxiously agreed and it was love at first ride. Smooth and self assured the Masi was, with just enough "pay attention to me" in the steering to keep my attention/respect.
I also noticed how it fit me perfectly. After the ride I mentioned that I enjoyed the bike and if he should decide to sell it someday, he should let me now.
Well, two weeks ago he let me know and it will be living with me after June when he returns to the United States.
I have two other "must haves" on my list and hopefully the McLean will be here by fall......
While there are quite a few modern steel brands I would consider, there are surprisingly few C&V bicycles I would go back and seek out.
A Masi jumps to the front for me based on a ride I had a few years ago.
A new rider had joined our Saturday coffee crew and he had a 1974 Masi. First of all, it was gorgeous.
Mostly Galli equipped.
Secondly, he was a very strong rider, certainly a couple notches ahead of me.
That bike/rider performed beautifully all day and after a late water break he asked me if I would like to swap bikes for the rest of the ride home.
I anxiously agreed and it was love at first ride. Smooth and self assured the Masi was, with just enough "pay attention to me" in the steering to keep my attention/respect.
I also noticed how it fit me perfectly. After the ride I mentioned that I enjoyed the bike and if he should decide to sell it someday, he should let me now.
Well, two weeks ago he let me know and it will be living with me after June when he returns to the United States.
I have two other "must haves" on my list and hopefully the McLean will be here by fall......
12-18-14, 05:55 PM
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I'd go with the green one.
12-18-14, 06:01 PM
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From the OP's list, probably a Masi, a fine middle weight refined instrument, all day and then a glass of wine.
For the modern lugnuttarati, I'm with Scooper for Dave Wages at Ellis Cycles, or Toby Stanton at Hot Tubes.
They almost seem too pretty to ride, but I think I could manage.
For a sharpened road axe with a surgeon's blade, or a balanced splitting maul of a cross bike, it's Adam Eldridge, hands down, for me.
You don't ride his frames, you wear them, and you better be ready to bring it, because the bike will not be in the way.
Whether you go high dollar for his Stanridge Speed or low dollar for his Wraith, you get a no-nonsense approach to riding at your potential.
For the modern lugnuttarati, I'm with Scooper for Dave Wages at Ellis Cycles, or Toby Stanton at Hot Tubes.
They almost seem too pretty to ride, but I think I could manage.
For a sharpened road axe with a surgeon's blade, or a balanced splitting maul of a cross bike, it's Adam Eldridge, hands down, for me.
You don't ride his frames, you wear them, and you better be ready to bring it, because the bike will not be in the way.
Whether you go high dollar for his Stanridge Speed or low dollar for his Wraith, you get a no-nonsense approach to riding at your potential.
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12-18-14, 06:36 PM
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Keep talking like that and I'll end up with one up here in the prairie.
From the OP's list, probably a Masi, a fine middle weight refined instrument, all day and then a glass of wine.
For the modern lugnuttarati, I'm with Scooper for Dave Wages at Ellis Cycles, or Toby Stanton at Hot Tubes.
They almost seem too pretty to ride, but I think I could manage.
For a sharpened road axe with a surgeon's blade, or a balanced splitting maul of a cross bike, it's Adam Eldridge, hands down, for me.
You don't ride his frames, you wear them, and you better be ready to bring it, because the bike will not be in the way.
Whether you go high dollar for his Stanridge Speed or low dollar for his Wraith, you get a no-nonsense approach to riding at your potential.
For the modern lugnuttarati, I'm with Scooper for Dave Wages at Ellis Cycles, or Toby Stanton at Hot Tubes.
They almost seem too pretty to ride, but I think I could manage.
For a sharpened road axe with a surgeon's blade, or a balanced splitting maul of a cross bike, it's Adam Eldridge, hands down, for me.
You don't ride his frames, you wear them, and you better be ready to bring it, because the bike will not be in the way.
Whether you go high dollar for his Stanridge Speed or low dollar for his Wraith, you get a no-nonsense approach to riding at your potential.
12-18-14, 06:39 PM
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I have committed to the Masi and the McLean at this point.
I really would like both.
Btw I saw an incredible Behringer the other day.
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I'm curious how you arrived at this particular list. There are other builders I would probably want to seek out - Weigle and Kvale come to mind.
12-18-14, 07:15 PM
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A thing for Italians?