Vintage Vs. New video
12-20-14, 02:31 PM
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Vintage Vs. New video
I found this a fun little watch.
12-20-14, 02:46 PM
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Excellent! Well worth the 8 minutes...
"Enjoy the sport!"
"Enjoy the sport!"
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12-20-14, 03:02 PM
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Mostly '87 kit with the retro - the same cutoff as L'Eroica.
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12-20-14, 04:08 PM
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"the thin tubes, it looks quite fragile, but isn't".... and the modern stuff doesn't, but is. I rode in the late eighties and no one wore a hairnet by that time, at least not around here.
12-20-14, 04:28 PM
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I thought the 2 or 3 kilo difference was a minor exaggeration. A racing bike from Columbus SLX should be close to 20 lbs.
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12-20-14, 05:21 PM
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Thanks! 
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12-20-14, 05:48 PM
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I don't race... and never have. So I can't relate to the racing differences. But I agree there is a big difference in the feel of my modern bikes compared to my vintage bikes. I have used the same words [as in the video]... "comfortable", and a "pleasure". Although most of my miles are logged riding a modern bicycle. There is a special enjoyment to riding the vintage steel bicycles.
Thanks for sharing the video.
Thanks for sharing the video.
12-20-14, 05:56 PM
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I think he summed it up well at the end.
12-20-14, 07:05 PM
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There is a thread or two on BF about bike weight of vintage bikes and parts. 21 to 22 pounds is probably about right. Riders were generally not quite as weight conscious as they are now and there was (by and large) a premium on parts that would last.
12-20-14, 09:00 PM
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People like to attribute more to the bike technology than it deserves. How much have modern racing bikes given up and to what advantage? I think you can build a bike with soul using contemporary technologies, but when it comes to racing, the first thing they cut out today is the soul: that just adds weight.
12-20-14, 09:17 PM
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I love GCN and it was fun to see them do a retro themed video, they seem to be doing more of this sort of thing lately.
12-20-14, 10:50 PM
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12-21-14, 07:41 AM
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Yes, like less than 1% of bikes sold.
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12-21-14, 07:55 AM
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Actually, if you are comparing apples to apples, the Battaglin being the top end bike back then and comparing it to the top end Cervelo/Specialized/Trek/whatever, today's top end is easily under 15 pounds. And back in the day, 1% of bikes sold were under 22 pounds.
12-21-14, 08:00 AM
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My Supers that I raced were about 22-23 pounds. The weight of the bike was never an issue for my "average" results.
12-21-14, 09:06 AM
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While a modern 16lbs race bike is strong enough for pro cyclists like Andre Greipel, it's still going to be very expensive and require very good maintenance if your typical 190 lb recreational cyclists wants to use it as training or recreational bike.
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12-21-14, 09:22 AM
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Soul. By this I mean one frame is made by several peoples different hands over a period of time..
The other frame probably made in a few seconds from injection mould.
I am not an authority. I have never been on a carbon fiber bike, or even aluminum.
I have picked up a plastic bike at the LBS, just to see what it is like.
It is not for me.
I am 60.
The other frame probably made in a few seconds from injection mould.
I am not an authority. I have never been on a carbon fiber bike, or even aluminum.
I have picked up a plastic bike at the LBS, just to see what it is like.
It is not for me.
I am 60.