What are you doing today(C&V bicycle related)?
02-26-15, 05:19 PM
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Removed my first-ever crankset and bottom bracket.
Made it more exciting by bringing home the wrong crank puller (CCP44) because it was the only one hanging on the wall at the shop and I figured, "I've got cranks, this is a crank puller, so we must be good." Not so much. I dunno what the 44 is used for, but it's not my bike. And believe me, I tried things you don't even want to imagine in a solid hour of trying to make it work. I now own a CCP22. And the 44 is completely trashed. The price of knowledge, I suppose.
Anyway, now I can officially say I've dug into all the major parts of a bicycle as the BB was the last of my unexplored territory. Kind of a good feeling, that.
Made it more exciting by bringing home the wrong crank puller (CCP44) because it was the only one hanging on the wall at the shop and I figured, "I've got cranks, this is a crank puller, so we must be good." Not so much. I dunno what the 44 is used for, but it's not my bike. And believe me, I tried things you don't even want to imagine in a solid hour of trying to make it work. I now own a CCP22. And the 44 is completely trashed. The price of knowledge, I suppose.
Anyway, now I can officially say I've dug into all the major parts of a bicycle as the BB was the last of my unexplored territory. Kind of a good feeling, that.
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A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
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03-04-15, 08:28 PM
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Speaking of bottom brackets........
I knew something was awry with this - the catalog for the bike ('84 Centurion Pro Tour 15) lists a sealed BB and this one had some play while installed... It's too bad, it's a neat design - sealed bearings + adjustable chainline. I was hoping to reuse it on a current build that will reuse the triple originally installed on the bike / BB (Sugino AT) and which will see lots of dirt, etc.
I have a rough, somewhat embarrassing theory on what may have happened:
I bought the bike from a friend who bought and rebuilt it with full knowledge that it was too big for him. It fit me like a glove and rode beautifully with plenty of utility - I love(d) this bike. Something was up with the BB before my friend bought the bike, as at that point (~2.5yrs ago) the granny gear had already taken a sizable nibble out of the chainstay:
Yes, I risked my luck and rode it like that after removing the small ring. From what I recall, there was no noticeable play in the BB at that time. Or maybe there was, it could help explain future events. Either way, the bike felt great and I kept an eye on it.
Two summers ago a group of friends and I were riding a singletrack shortcut through a nice sizable patch of New England woods following the CT river - a hiking / biking trail connecting two nearby towns. A fantastic ride which the bike handled beautifully.
To a point.
On that ride, the rear derailleur exploded and all of my past sins came to greet me.
While I was walking back up the trail to locate all of the essential small parts (yeah, right...), a friend shortened the chain onto the best gear ratio he could find balancing riding speed with chain tension. It worked well enough and I rode it gingerly, being especially careful over the bumpy stuff.
...until at one point, it stopped working well enough.
I became overconfident in the short-term fix and slowly increased my speed. The chain jumped to a larger cog while pedaling, and as you might guess, things took a turn for the worse. The larger cog used the chain to pull the drive-side of the wheel toward the BB, bending the rear triangle in the process. Language became colorful. We were ~15-20mi from home at that point and still in the woods, so not much choice. We kludged it again and I was EXTRA ginger on things. We eventually got home. I'm guessing I may have over-stressed the BB during that drama-fest as the chain pulled the BB spindle and freewheel toward each other. I think the hairline fracture and other damage below are in-line with this. The shards are sharp and shiny, so it was likely a quick failure, perhaps initiated by some preexisting condition connected to the above chainstay nibble. Or the bike was like this all along (hence above nibble). Either way, here's where we are and I'm, (slightly) smarter for the experience. Note the DS cup contained all of the bearings and most of the carnage until I pulled it. The BB play while installed post-incident was certainly perceptible, but it held its secret well and still spun smoothly.
As I said, I love(d) this bike. It helped me get back into cycling in a more serious way after years of schooling which took up all of my working and free time. A breath of fresh air.
That ride was the last time I rode the bike.
I've been reusing parts here and there on suitable bikes as a way to save money and extend the life of the Centurion. Today I pulled the last part remaining on the frame: the bottom bracket. As I said, I was hoping to transfer both the BB and crank (pulled yesterday) over to a current budget build. For some reason, the DS BB cup was being difficult when I tried removing it yeasterday after pulling the crank arms, so I let some penetrating oil have at the threads over the night and today...in hindsight, I may have deformed the BB shell as part of the above.
Do you think I can reuse this??
Sealed:
Not sealed:
Interestingly, the BB / crank arm retention bolts are Campagnolo and in great condition, so that's nice.
Always get a peer check on field repairs, boys and girls...
BTW, can anyone ID this BB? It's English / I.S.O. Despite the above (which I chalk up to user error) I would like to source another for my current build. I haven't fully cleaned it, but have not yet found any brand markings. The '84 Centurion catalog only lists "Performance sealed bottom bracket". Sheldon's BB chart does not list this BB for the crankset. I'll keep searching, but will take the appropriate measurements and replace with something else if need be.
So it goes.
I knew something was awry with this - the catalog for the bike ('84 Centurion Pro Tour 15) lists a sealed BB and this one had some play while installed... It's too bad, it's a neat design - sealed bearings + adjustable chainline. I was hoping to reuse it on a current build that will reuse the triple originally installed on the bike / BB (Sugino AT) and which will see lots of dirt, etc.
I have a rough, somewhat embarrassing theory on what may have happened:
I bought the bike from a friend who bought and rebuilt it with full knowledge that it was too big for him. It fit me like a glove and rode beautifully with plenty of utility - I love(d) this bike. Something was up with the BB before my friend bought the bike, as at that point (~2.5yrs ago) the granny gear had already taken a sizable nibble out of the chainstay:
Yes, I risked my luck and rode it like that after removing the small ring. From what I recall, there was no noticeable play in the BB at that time. Or maybe there was, it could help explain future events. Either way, the bike felt great and I kept an eye on it.
Two summers ago a group of friends and I were riding a singletrack shortcut through a nice sizable patch of New England woods following the CT river - a hiking / biking trail connecting two nearby towns. A fantastic ride which the bike handled beautifully.
To a point.
On that ride, the rear derailleur exploded and all of my past sins came to greet me.
While I was walking back up the trail to locate all of the essential small parts (yeah, right...), a friend shortened the chain onto the best gear ratio he could find balancing riding speed with chain tension. It worked well enough and I rode it gingerly, being especially careful over the bumpy stuff.
...until at one point, it stopped working well enough.
I became overconfident in the short-term fix and slowly increased my speed. The chain jumped to a larger cog while pedaling, and as you might guess, things took a turn for the worse. The larger cog used the chain to pull the drive-side of the wheel toward the BB, bending the rear triangle in the process. Language became colorful. We were ~15-20mi from home at that point and still in the woods, so not much choice. We kludged it again and I was EXTRA ginger on things. We eventually got home. I'm guessing I may have over-stressed the BB during that drama-fest as the chain pulled the BB spindle and freewheel toward each other. I think the hairline fracture and other damage below are in-line with this. The shards are sharp and shiny, so it was likely a quick failure, perhaps initiated by some preexisting condition connected to the above chainstay nibble. Or the bike was like this all along (hence above nibble). Either way, here's where we are and I'm, (slightly) smarter for the experience. Note the DS cup contained all of the bearings and most of the carnage until I pulled it. The BB play while installed post-incident was certainly perceptible, but it held its secret well and still spun smoothly.
As I said, I love(d) this bike. It helped me get back into cycling in a more serious way after years of schooling which took up all of my working and free time. A breath of fresh air.
That ride was the last time I rode the bike.
I've been reusing parts here and there on suitable bikes as a way to save money and extend the life of the Centurion. Today I pulled the last part remaining on the frame: the bottom bracket. As I said, I was hoping to transfer both the BB and crank (pulled yesterday) over to a current budget build. For some reason, the DS BB cup was being difficult when I tried removing it yeasterday after pulling the crank arms, so I let some penetrating oil have at the threads over the night and today...in hindsight, I may have deformed the BB shell as part of the above.
Do you think I can reuse this??
Sealed:
Not sealed:
Interestingly, the BB / crank arm retention bolts are Campagnolo and in great condition, so that's nice.
Always get a peer check on field repairs, boys and girls...
BTW, can anyone ID this BB? It's English / I.S.O. Despite the above (which I chalk up to user error) I would like to source another for my current build. I haven't fully cleaned it, but have not yet found any brand markings. The '84 Centurion catalog only lists "Performance sealed bottom bracket". Sheldon's BB chart does not list this BB for the crankset. I'll keep searching, but will take the appropriate measurements and replace with something else if need be.
So it goes.
03-04-15, 10:42 PM
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I removed the original chromed, pressed steel? brake calipers from the '55 Phillips 3 speed and (gasp) installed modern Tektro R559 long reach dual pivot calipers with different brake pads (Kool Stops) and....aaaaahh. I love it! Surprisingly the new calipers look less flashy than the originals which were very shiny chrome with minor rust spots. Did I mention that I now love riding this bike?
03-05-15, 08:25 AM
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Had the pleasure of meeting @gomango yesterday. That's C&V related right? 
Anyway, great guy. Even greater collection of beautiful art work, or bicycles - whatever you prefer. Thanks again for your time Grady. It was awesome to pick your brain.
Also got to see @sloar's paint work firsthand. Impressive work on an orange Gazelle.
Somehow walked away from Grady's place with this sexy Italian girl (obligatory out of the car and in front of the garage pic):
(sorry for the crummy-over exposed cell phone pic)
While she's certainly beautiful to look at, can't wait for this MN snow/salt to move on and ride!
Anyway, great guy. Even greater collection of beautiful art work, or bicycles - whatever you prefer. Thanks again for your time Grady. It was awesome to pick your brain. Also got to see @sloar's paint work firsthand. Impressive work on an orange Gazelle.
Somehow walked away from Grady's place with this sexy Italian girl (obligatory out of the car and in front of the garage pic):
(sorry for the crummy-over exposed cell phone pic)
While she's certainly beautiful to look at, can't wait for this MN snow/salt to move on and ride!
03-05-15, 08:42 AM
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Just waiting on parts for my Proflex. Should be getting the fork either today or tomorrow. Got the crank yesterday. Maybe the shifters will come today, too. Hoping to start assembling it tomorrow evening. I probably need to give the frame a good cleaning before I start
03-05-15, 09:31 AM
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Ditto that in DC. I might de-tension the wheelsmith rear on my Fuji (a couple of spokes are way, way low tension yet the wheel is true) and bring it back up while watching an old movie. That new-ish Park plastic stand for their trueing stand is a godsend. You can carry the thing anywhere (like the living room) to work on your wheel.
Probably the best purchase since I started working at the shop.
Probably the best purchase since I started working at the shop.
03-05-15, 09:49 AM
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I'll be installing Tektro brakes on a bike or two. Also rootin' for warmer weather.
This morning I saw a skunk waddle across the 3ft-deep snow and ice in our back yard. He was was looking decidedly ticked off at the presence of groundhogs in the world.
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03-05-15, 11:31 AM
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We're now well past the 1-3" that Intellicast predicted and on our way to the 4-8 that NOAA predicts. I'm studying parts that need no study, cleaning Raleighs that are not dirty, lubing things that are already lubed and polishing components that need no polish. I'll probably ride the Mirage which is locked into the mag trainer, if I can get to the detached garage. The local radio station is providing traffic/road reports all day vs just during rush hour. Bad sign, eh?
03-05-15, 04:00 PM
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I took pictures of the Raleigh 1958 or so Dawn Tourist ? 4 speed dyno-hub with full fenders and chaincase. Now I need to figure out how to post them on here. tom
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Trying to figure out why the NOS Campagnolo globe hoods which shipped from Italy on Feb 11 have still not arrived in the States, per USPS. 
03-07-15, 02:24 PM
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What??? Only 2 wheels?
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RT, you are offering for trade one what??? Not that I have any.
Today's activities involved two bikes. I took this sweet ride on its first ride, just around the neighborhood, despite the 35degF weather.
Then I installed some Tektro brakes on this for my sweetie.
The Terry design used a 24" front wheel to position it closer to the ST, providing a shorter reach to the bars for short women (actually, for short anyone, I suppose). My sweetie has been riding this on the trainer and she thinks it fits her, which is good! The front brake is an R539; the rear brake is a R559 but will be replaced. The reach is okay on the rear; on the front the R559 is too large. I have a nutted front R539 coming for the rear, but it hasn't arrived yet, alas. The chainrings may be replaced too; those are just what I happened to have in the parts bin.
Today's activities involved two bikes. I took this sweet ride on its first ride, just around the neighborhood, despite the 35degF weather.
Then I installed some Tektro brakes on this for my sweetie.
The Terry design used a 24" front wheel to position it closer to the ST, providing a shorter reach to the bars for short women (actually, for short anyone, I suppose). My sweetie has been riding this on the trainer and she thinks it fits her, which is good! The front brake is an R539; the rear brake is a R559 but will be replaced. The reach is okay on the rear; on the front the R559 is too large. I have a nutted front R539 coming for the rear, but it hasn't arrived yet, alas. The chainrings may be replaced too; those are just what I happened to have in the parts bin.
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03-07-15, 03:09 PM
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Some may be offended, but I replaced the downtube shifters on my son's Club Fuji with brifters. He took a nasty spill a while back when he reached down to shift, so when I stumbled upon a set of 105 8 speed levers for $5, he asked if he could have them. The ratchets were gummed up, but after a liberal application of WD40, I got them working. The LBS only had two right side cable stops, so I mounted one upside-down on the left. Track is starting and he wanted it done so he can ride to practice, 10 miles round trip.
03-07-15, 03:36 PM
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Since I sold the Sante group off my Specialisma Campione Vento Super Leggra 603 Tour de Lombardi I have been trying to finish putting it back togather. I am mostly using the parts that came off my K2 carbon frame and I ran into a few issues.
Anyway today I decided to put my foot down and finish it. So I dug out a FD and RD (the K2 had a braze one and the RD needs a nut) for it and installed them and the chain. Adjusted the gears, cable end caps and bottle cages. Excellent! Not as pretty as the Sante version but pretty enough and functional.
As I am about to take it out of the stand I discover another issue. I reused a set of wrapped bars from different bike and I realized the CampI brake levers do not have a QR on them for the Monoplanor style brakes I used!!!
Like my GrandMa used to say "Rosanna Rosanna Danna ' Its always something'"
Anyway today I decided to put my foot down and finish it. So I dug out a FD and RD (the K2 had a braze one and the RD needs a nut) for it and installed them and the chain. Adjusted the gears, cable end caps and bottle cages. Excellent! Not as pretty as the Sante version but pretty enough and functional.
As I am about to take it out of the stand I discover another issue. I reused a set of wrapped bars from different bike and I realized the CampI brake levers do not have a QR on them for the Monoplanor style brakes I used!!!
Like my GrandMa used to say "Rosanna Rosanna Danna ' Its always something'"
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03-07-15, 04:01 PM
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Going for my first outdoor ride since my health issues last year! Me on my Miyata 1000 (nicknamed M3...as it is a Mile Munching Miyata )...we did all of 6 miles on the Big Creek Greenway in Alpharetta...but...oh boy, what a beautiful 6 miles it was!
Now...on to more miles and the build up back to Metric Centuries!
)...we did all of 6 miles on the Big Creek Greenway in Alpharetta...but...oh boy, what a beautiful 6 miles it was!
Now...on to more miles and the build up back to Metric Centuries!
03-07-15, 04:15 PM
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I couldn't take the winter anymore- I needed to get out on a bike even though we just got 10 inches of new snow two days ago and the roads are still a mess. I took my mountain bike for a 15 mile ride in the snow covered gravel roads. It was like riding in wet sand. It was awesome. I am tired.
Now for the CV content- I'm about to start rebuilding my Merckx after a repaint and hope to be on the road with it next weekend. The big hold up has been that the large doors to my garage shop swing out and there has been 3 inches of solid ice built up in front of them for weeks. I've been too lazy to spend the time and energy chopping up the iceberg to get into the shop, but now Mother Nature's helping out a bit.
Now for the CV content- I'm about to start rebuilding my Merckx after a repaint and hope to be on the road with it next weekend. The big hold up has been that the large doors to my garage shop swing out and there has been 3 inches of solid ice built up in front of them for weeks. I've been too lazy to spend the time and energy chopping up the iceberg to get into the shop, but now Mother Nature's helping out a bit.
03-07-15, 04:23 PM
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Threading spokes. It is even more tedious than you imagine.
03-07-15, 07:48 PM
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Just got done shining the stainless steel spokes on my Trek. Spiffy!
03-07-15, 07:55 PM
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Rode the '84 Elite GT back and forth to work today. Then I took the Semi-Pro I built up this winter for its first ride. And I hate it.
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03-08-15, 01:06 AM
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Prepped my wife's cannondale, and got out my chrome p13-9. Getting up early for a nice relaxing cruise 30 miles or so. Should be lots of fun.
03-08-15, 05:41 AM
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I installed a pair of Suntour jocky wheels into the '68 Simplex Prestige RD (whose plastic wheels broke apart like all the rest of em) and mounted the tires. The '68 Raleigh GP is almost ready to go outside and play. I need to retrue the wheels as, since mounting the tires, they each have a small out section to trim. No reason not to make this bike perfect - weeks yet til spring.
03-08-15, 06:05 AM
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A week ago I did a thirty miler on my Ironman Expert. This week I did the same 30 miles on my 2014 Diamondback Century as a means of comparison. That's C&V, right?
03-08-15, 06:37 AM
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Going for my first outdoor ride since my health issues last year! Me on my Miyata 1000 (nicknamed M3...as it is a Mile Munching Miyata )...we did all of 6 miles on the Big Creek Greenway in Alpharetta...but...oh boy, what a beautiful 6 miles it was!
Now...on to more miles and the build up back to Metric Centuries!
)...we did all of 6 miles on the Big Creek Greenway in Alpharetta...but...oh boy, what a beautiful 6 miles it was!Now...on to more miles and the build up back to Metric Centuries!
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