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Red Kit Prayer blog - something to piss everyone off today

Old 02-20-15, 05:29 PM
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His reader base just grew by 23.....I think he succeeded.
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Like the metal toggle switches in Apollo modules were over-engineered.

It's probably a good thing I don't know how to read.
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Originally Posted by Chrome Molly
Yes, and if you can find a 70's race bike that accepts 30's, you're golden for most hard pack gravel rides. I love it when I get into a gravel ride and I see a 70's frame up in the top two or three groups.
Now yer killin' my recent buzz.
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Well, I wasn't around then so I may be wrong, but my perception is that stuff was much less common than your Schwinns and Raleighs and such.
Probably was'nt as common. I wasn't around then either, Campy Chorus was already a thing long before I was.
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I am offended!
They say the best defend is a good offend.
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By and large, I agree with the blog post, and wish monochromatic jerseys were easier to come by. Heck, even some of those 70s/80s ones that were solid colors except for a stripe around the shoulders would be great.
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Broad, overreaching statements are seldom true.
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Whoever said he needs an editor, is right. Our whole discussion is predicated on a sentence that could be plucked from the article and thrown away, without loss. Instead of clarifying his argument, at best, it added confusion and of course, alienated his audience. Sad, it seems like a worthy post.
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Author's statements seemed pretty vague, so might appear true only to those who happen to recall certain things he might be referring to (such as the insufficiently-tested, lightweight CNC and welded parts that were so widely sold in the '90's).

As far as frames, I've had a lot of old frames, and struggle to recall any bad ones, but I believe today's frames are built to testing standards that may make them more reliably suitable for the heaviest/strongest riders.
I've known riders who tired of their carbon frame's creaking problems, and there are concerns about whether a carbon frame is safe to continue riding after a crash, and how it might be tested and verified as safe to ride.

As for the older bike's components, their shorter cabling runs alone meant that service intervals tended to be longer, but the author is right imo about clothing, pedals, lights and chains becoming much better over the years.

Today's fitting services to me seem very simplistic, but may reflect the fact that novice riders so often want to buy a very expensive bike early on, which I guess justifies additional investment in fitting before the bike purchase.

It would have been nice if the author had hinted at just how each of the periods he mentioned were in some ways better than the previous years, yet even a 1950's road bike can be a very, very nice ride today!

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The redkiteman has put his foot in his mouth a number of times over the course. He is younger and so references to what is known as C&V here are often off the mark. He has goofed up on other stuff, most recent prior to this I recall was when his argument lost its footing when he got domestic team sponsorship facts wrong as background to why Chris Horner won't be in the Tour of California. His readers often correct the errors, but there is never a circle back and a correction to the article. Hubris perhaps. Perhaps why Asphault magazine went down, leaving many a subscriber with a few what would be very expensive issues when dollar cost averaged.
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Originally Posted by repechage
He is younger and so references to what is known as C&V here are often off the mark.
This may be why his "wear a bright solid color, that will make you more visible" statements are presented with an aura of a personal epiphany. I think many a rider knew this already, which is alluded to by many of the words in the comments section.
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Originally Posted by Velocivixen
Broad, overreaching statements are seldom true.
My head just 'sploded

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Not only does he make false statements and assumptions about C&V bikes and gear, the whole premise of his article about wearing black is based on his opinion with little regard and absolutely no citation of research on whether wearing hi-vis as a cyclist makes you safer. There is research that suggests that it is not as valuable as once thought.

High vis clothing doesn't make cars pass you more safely, says new study | road.cc

“In contrast, in inter-urban roads, where the background was solely a bright sky, the black outfit provided an advantage for the PTW detectability.”
That would make his head explode....

Why cycling in high-vis may be not as safe as you think | Peter Walker | Environment | The Guardian

Demonizing black as "unsafe" and inferring that those who choose to wear black are cavalier about their safety is irresponsible IMHO as it will shift the burden of cyclist safety and responsibility for collisions with cyclists caused by driver inattention or other irresponsible behavior away from driver and onto the cyclist.

You got hit by a drunk driver who was texting while driving? You're at fault because you were wearing black, not a hi-vis color...

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Originally Posted by bgav

Demonizing black as "unsafe" and inferring that those who choose to wear black are cavalier about their safety is irresponsible
Amen to that brother!

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Originally Posted by Velognome
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Demonizing black as "unsafe" and inferring that those who choose to wear black are cavalier about their safety is irresponsible
Amen to that brother!

you got a chamois in that getup?

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Russian hide like bear, what need goat for?
Good! No need for unorthodox solutions then!
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Originally Posted by Italuminium
Good! No need for unorthodox solutions then!
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Originally Posted by Italuminium
Good! No need for unorthodox solutions then!
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I was going to start a blog once. But then I figured a twelve foot statue of myself in the public square would serve as well.
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Originally Posted by smontanaro
I semiregularly follow the Red Kite Prayer blog. Most of the time, Padraig has something interesting to say. Today, he's tired of everything being black, which I can understand (simply put, you should want to be seen). In the run-up to that, however, he steps on some toes:


Whoa there, pardner! "Crap frames of the 70s"? I assume he's referring to the mass-produced stuff which was tossed overseas from Europe to the US in the bike boom. I have no trouble finding quality frames from that era to ride. What's with the "under-engineered" comment? Perhaps early index shifting teething pains? (That's not my era, so I'm a bit unclear what the problem is.) As for the styrofoam bucket helmets, well, they were better than leather hair nets, were they not?
Funny, how Padraig's posting on bike tech are based on vast and somewhat nonsensical generalities. He posted the following in January only to be called out as inaccurate in the comments section by some highly knowledgeable readers, including a individual that quoted data from the editor of Bike Quarterly.

Anachronistic | RKP
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Easily in his 50's Brady is not especially young, but earlier posts are generally correct in his inaccuracies. In the future I wouldn't expect to see many critical comments as it appears that he selectively deletes those he dislikes. That said, he has written many very interesting articles over the years, especially those related to racing history.

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[QUOTE=nickl_99;18623211]Easily in his 50's Brady is not especially young, but earlier posts are generally correct about his inaccuracies. In the future I wouldn't expect to see many critical comments as it appears that he selectively deletes those he dislikes.

That said, he has written many very interesting articles over the years, especially those related to racing history.
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