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    F.B. OEM Hub photos needed

    I am rebuilding, re-chroming & rehabilitating some 3-piece Campy G.S. hubs.
    see https://www.flickr.com/photos/grande...7648665284563/


    Along the way I found out that F.B. made those hubs not only for Campagnolo, but for anybody who asked.

    A short list includes:

    Atala √
    Bartali
    Bianchi √
    Bob's Bikes (Bob Berghino NYC) √
    Campagnolo
    C.B.
    Ciclo Piave
    Frejus
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    Olmo
    Maino
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    Simplex √
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    If anybody has photos of those branded hubs, please send them to me or post here.

    Thanks

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    BTW: usually this (FB) is commonly said to be a contraction of the full name of the firm: Fratelli Brivio, of Brescia, Italia and they advertised their marque as "La Grande Marca Italiana", so pretty proud of their "Italianess"

    BUT your pics show a French-language box with "Brivio Freres" in which case I reckon the initials should have been "B.F."

    Did they (FB) have any manufacturing in France (either their own plant or under contract from a French Companie)?

    I HAD some with Legnano branding but didn't take any pics, I'm afraid....but will post any that I find, if I find any.

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    F.B. (Fratelli Brivio S.A.) had offices and a factory at 9, Viale Italia, Brescia, Italy
    Brivio Frères (S.A.R.L.) had a sales office, and possibly an assembly plant, in Magnin, Pont-d'Hyeres which it shared with Campagnolo for a time. Details are hard to come by.

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    FB Hubs 02 by iabisdb, on Flickr

    FB Hubs 03 by iabisdb, on Flickr

    FB Hubs 04 by iabisdb, on Flickr

    FB Hubs 05 by iabisdb, on Flickr

    FB Hubs 06 by iabisdb, on Flickr

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    Campagnolo with first gen QR branded FB

    Skærmbillede 2012-12-06 kl. 11.16.30 by iabisdb, on Flickr

    Skærmbillede 2012-12-06 kl. 11.07.44 by iabisdb, on Flickr

    Skærmbillede 2012-12-06 kl. 11.08.43 by iabisdb, on Flickr

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    Thanks for the photos. Very helpful. Posted them at https://www.flickr.com/photos/grande...7648665284563/

    Great flickr collection, BTW: https://www.flickr.com/photos/68123172@N03/sets/

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    good response so far:

    Atala √
    Bartali √
    Berga √
    Bianchi √
    Bob's Bikes (Bob Berghino NYC) √
    Campagnolo √
    C.B.
    Ciclo Piave
    Frejus √
    Ganna
    Legnano
    Lygie
    Olmo √
    Maino
    Pinarello
    Simplex √
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    Taurus √
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    Willier
    Wolsit

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    Quote Originally Posted by amirinisrael View Post
    I am rebuilding, re-chroming & rehabilitating some 3-piece Campy G.S. hubs.
    see https://www.flickr.com/photos/grande...7648665284563/


    Along the way I found out that F.B. made those hubs not only for Campagnolo, but for anybody who asked.

    A short list includes:

    Atala
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .

    Are you sure those Atala hubs shown in your flickr album (link above, pics 1 and 2) were made by FB?

    I have two of those which I bought in Italy last year. One Atala-branded (see pics below) and another identical hub without any markings (both are rear hubs and both came without skewer).

    DSC06547.jpg DSC06548.jpg DSC06549.jpg DSC06551.jpg

    Apart from the above engraving no markings inside and out.
    Because I never heard of Atala as a manufacturer of hubs I tried to find out more.

    At first glance my impression was - and still is - that they might not have been made by FB, despite some superficial similarities (three piece high flange hubs with round holes, steel center - aluminium flanges).

    FB hubs are lighter, have much nicer finish and smoother run, better bearing quality (I have some FB hubs to compare). The hubs in question something of a low-budget version of real FBs.

    I disassembled both 'Atala' hubs for service and did not find 'FB'-markings on the cones as with genuine FBs (at least with mine).

    A while ago, I had the same inquiry in a German C&V forum and vague suggestions, besides from FB, were Gnutti and Chater Lea.
    sorry für the mistakes!

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    At the bottom of my list I include a caveat:

    "60+ years later, the only way to be sure that a hub was made by FB is to take the hubs apart and take very accurate measurements.
    If everything is the same except for the engraving then there's a very good chance that they were made by F.B."

    Eventually I will take a few accurate F.B hub measurements and post them ... that way, others can measure against those numbers.

    And, you are probably right when you hinted that Gnutti made similar hubs and may have made OEM's as well.
    I have a Gnutti branded 3-piece hubs and the measurements clearly differ from F.B. Will eventually post those measurements as well.

    Thanks for the heads-up.



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    does anyone have knowledge of CIDNEO hubs? they have a similar appearance to FB but with one big difference. the barrels are too small in diameter to accept hollow axles. have always assumed them to be made by another firm but have no hard information. thank you.

    VeloBase.com - Component: Cidneo Extra (FB)

    edit -

    just did a spot of checking and discovered that Cidneo is a place name in Brescia, Italy - home of F.B.
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