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Yard Sale Find--Mystery 1980's Specialized S Works Stumper--Anybody Know?

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Old 03-19-15, 12:35 PM
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unusual set up unknown pads on shimano 600 calipers
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Originally Posted by Sierramike
I know its something special underneath that rattlecan paint
Thanks for the overall photo. I did hear of a person who liked to paint his commuter in such a way to discourage would-be thieves.

Did you check for holes for the head tube badge rivets?
A serial number?

Are your eventual plans to strip and repaint, or to keep the unique patina? i would still loose the Specialized decals.
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no serial numbers or holes for riveted badge. may or may not repaint probably will part it out
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Looks like one of the previous owners had a lot of BMX / early MTB parts.

Like other people pointed out, those look like Skyway brake pads.

Those cranks aren't stainless steel. They're chromed, and probably 4130 chome/moly steel. If those cranks are early 80's Cook Brothers Racing MTB cranks, they might as well be made out of $20 bills. Same is true if they're first-generation Profile cranks.
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I like it, whatever it is. Even the paint job.
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Cranks are interesting. Not sure I've ever seen cro mo Cook cranks. Profile uses "full wrap" pedal/spindle boss.
Other options could be Terry Cable, Boss/ L&S creations. There were a few other similarly designed cranks whose names elude me at the moment.
The spindle would help narrow it down.
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eyeballed this bike up & down. no markings on crank & frame except 170. will remove crank later in week to figure out. again thanks for all the helps as this unit stumps me please excuse the pun.
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It sure is a "stumper" but even more so considering most any of the big Asian (probably Japanese for this example) builders would have serial numbers on both frame and fork whether built for a main brand or under contract.
My next thought is this was done by a custom builder (perhaps in USA) or even as a class project in a frame-building class. Not all "student work" would be amateurish, especially if the teacher got in to help out.
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If it was mine, I think I would strip the components off, then start wire brushing down the frame to bare metal. Is there a way to selectively remove only the top layer of paint? Perhaps a chemical stripper? Heat G U N?

Oh, also carefully inspect the fork steer tube,although I've gone under the assumption that it was a cheap replacement of a no-name brand that is no longer available.

In a sense, the splotchy paint job is cute from a distance, but not so good from up close.

However, I would absolutely refuse to ride a bike that displayed decals from the wrong manufacturer.

I've been wondering if there was a deliberate effort to mask the identity of the frame. If so, and you do find a serial number, perhaps filled with putty, then I would check with the local PD to see if it was stolen. Also online registries, although they may be far too new.

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Anyone else catch the star bottle bosses?
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
Anyone else catch the star bottle bosses?
Yes, and they are a feature of the Schwinn Prologue. I still can't account for the lack of head-tube Schwinn marks, but I believe they are there, and just not visible under the paint and decals. It is possible that somebody made a nice Schwinn clone, but it just has too many features for that to be the case. The other alternative that was mentioned was that it was a direct Japanese import, perhaps a Non-US Panasonic. The Yin-Yang might be a sign of non-US origin.
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I was just looking at photos of the Schwinn Prologue this evening and noticed that little "nipple" behind the head tube.

Sure enough your bike has it too. I haven't seen it on a lot of other bikes. More commonly there will be a pump mount on a separate wire.

Have you had a chance to wire brush off the head tube yet?

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Brake pads are Kool Stop, but the company also may have made Skyway-branded ones for that company. Check the pad shape.


I think one of the most distinctive things on the frame is the detail on the underside of the chainstay bridge.
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That little nipple is called a pump peg.
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I'm assuming when OP wrote "Stumper" he meant that the frame's provenance is stumping him, not that it was a Stumpjumper
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Originally Posted by willydstyle
I'm assuming when OP wrote "Stumper" he meant that the frame's provenance is stumping him, not that it was a Stumpjumper
I was cracking up at all the "not a stumpjumper!" comments. it's just an unfortunate choice of words when paired with specialized in the title. No one ever suggested it was a stumpjumper.

Anyway, it's a super cool frame and the cranks are the most interesting part for me. If the OP is parting it out I am interested in the crank and matching BB. I don't believe Cook Brothers ever marketed a steel crank like that but I think C.Q.P did. Which would be my first guess as to what they are. However, these appear to be a constant diameter from the spindle to about 2/3 of length and then tape. C.Q.P cranks tapered gradually from the spindle to the pedal. This could be an earlier version I suppose or just a copy.
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