Athena warm weather clothing
04-05-15, 09:49 AM
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Athena warm weather clothing
Hi all!
I have a good friend who in new to road cycling.
She is an Athena and overheats quite easily.
She's afraid that, come July, she will have to cycle in a short wrap around skirt
and pasties, just to stay reasonably cool.
Anyone know what works at keeping a hot body cool on a hot day?
at this point, price is not paramount...comfort is.
thanks!
Cyril
I have a good friend who in new to road cycling.
She is an Athena and overheats quite easily.
She's afraid that, come July, she will have to cycle in a short wrap around skirt
and pasties, just to stay reasonably cool.
Anyone know what works at keeping a hot body cool on a hot day?
at this point, price is not paramount...comfort is.
thanks!
Cyril
04-05-15, 12:55 PM
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It depends on how big she is, how easy it will be to find clothes. Personally, I used to be too big for ladies athletic clothes, so I'd wear some bike shorts without padding, a sports bra, and a mens tshirt or a tank top over that. Now I can fit the moisture-wicking, thin polyester ladies shirts, but I still usually ride in bike shorts, cotton sports bra and cotton tshirt. I don't get sweaty until after the ride. I'm in San Antonio, so it gets pretty hot here, but I'm used to the heat.
04-05-15, 10:40 PM
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For road biking, your friend will probably want to get padded cycling shorts. The women's generally come in two lengths -- a more modest style that comes to the lower thigh, and a higher cut (sugar short) that comes not quite mid-thigh.
If she pair that with a moisture-wicking t-shirt or short-sleeved jersey she should be good. Although more expensive, the jersey gives you a front zipper that let's you adjust your exposure (and, with a sports bra, you can expose a fair amount).
It's also important to get a helmet and bike shoes with good ventilation -- that makes a really big difference. And women get to wear ankle-height socks -- another help with thermal management.
The other important thing is to stay well hydrated when riding. Wear sunscreen and take your rest stops in the shade.
Wish her good luck!
If she pair that with a moisture-wicking t-shirt or short-sleeved jersey she should be good. Although more expensive, the jersey gives you a front zipper that let's you adjust your exposure (and, with a sports bra, you can expose a fair amount).
It's also important to get a helmet and bike shoes with good ventilation -- that makes a really big difference. And women get to wear ankle-height socks -- another help with thermal management.
The other important thing is to stay well hydrated when riding. Wear sunscreen and take your rest stops in the shade.
Wish her good luck!
04-06-15, 04:16 AM
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Thanks for the replies. @Judi, She is a size 18 and wears an xxl bicycle short, though I'm not sure what brand.
( she has only one at this point).
Most of the rest of her gear is general active wear designed for running , yoga, etc. Good
for getting started, but not quite serving the purpose now.
The event which prompted this querry happened Saturday. Three of us set out to do a metric century.
We started in a demoralizing headwind but at the halfway point, the route pointed us back to home and we were able
to "sail the tail" back to the start. The day started at -3 Celsius and rose to+1 Celsius by rides end.
After lunch, we shed a layer because there was no longer wind in our faces and it was a tad warmer.
My friend kept right on removing layers until she was in her bike shorts, wicking sport top, and sports bra.
She kept her ear band and warm gloves.
And rode the remaining 50km dressed like most folks would have been for +25 Celsius.
She was comfy.
So, you see the problem.
Any brands of cycle wear out there that will accommodate her size and are terrifically cooling in warmer weather?
She wants bibs and a jersey.
I know Gore makes some warm weather stuff. Will it fit? Will it work?
Any other manufactures have anything?
Or, is it WNBR all summer long?
( she has only one at this point).
Most of the rest of her gear is general active wear designed for running , yoga, etc. Good
for getting started, but not quite serving the purpose now.
The event which prompted this querry happened Saturday. Three of us set out to do a metric century.
We started in a demoralizing headwind but at the halfway point, the route pointed us back to home and we were able
to "sail the tail" back to the start. The day started at -3 Celsius and rose to+1 Celsius by rides end.
After lunch, we shed a layer because there was no longer wind in our faces and it was a tad warmer.
My friend kept right on removing layers until she was in her bike shorts, wicking sport top, and sports bra.
She kept her ear band and warm gloves.
And rode the remaining 50km dressed like most folks would have been for +25 Celsius.
She was comfy.
So, you see the problem.
Any brands of cycle wear out there that will accommodate her size and are terrifically cooling in warmer weather?
She wants bibs and a jersey.
I know Gore makes some warm weather stuff. Will it fit? Will it work?
Any other manufactures have anything?
Or, is it WNBR all summer long?
Last edited by Cyril; 04-06-15 at 04:20 AM. Reason: Clean up punctuation
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One thing IMHO is make sure her wicking stuff is working properly, if she washed it in the wrong stuff it may have turned into the spandex equiv of a plastic trash bag ??
I have never had issues but others here have bought brand names of stuff I swear by (Target) and gotten "bad" ones that do not wick properly, not sure if mfg varies, or if it was an issue created by their choice of laundry soap or how they treated the article (letting it lay in a heap wet) ??
But I'd try to make sure all the stuff she has now "works right" as intended.
Bill
I have never had issues but others here have bought brand names of stuff I swear by (Target) and gotten "bad" ones that do not wick properly, not sure if mfg varies, or if it was an issue created by their choice of laundry soap or how they treated the article (letting it lay in a heap wet) ??
But I'd try to make sure all the stuff she has now "works right" as intended.
Bill
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Light colors in a close but not tight fit, fast drying/wicking fabric are the best bet. As Willbird mentioned, don't ever use fabric softener or detergents with softeners on wicking synthetic fabrics, it kills the wicking properties. A sports detergent or Woolite for Darks works well but make sure that your machine rinses your clothes out well. If your friend goes with the pasties they must match the color of her bike frame and/or bar tape (see Rule#347). A helmet with good ventilation will also help. Hydration is very important as is staying away from stimulants like caffine which cause the constriction of surface blood vessels in the skin, which reduces cooling efficiency.
Just as important will be when she decides to ride. When the days get really hot and she cannot acclimate to them, she should opt for riding in the morning or evening when it is cooler and the sun is not as direct. Plan rides with shorter segments and breaks where she can get out of the sun.
Endura Cool and Chill-Its both make microfiber skull caps and other headwear and towels that when dampened supposedly cool to 20-30 degrees below the ambient temperature. I've got one of the skull caps but I bought it late last summer and the weather never got hot enough for me to give it a fair test. Obviously these rely on evaporation and would work best in dry climates.
If your friend has trouble adjusting to exercise in even more moderate temperatures, it might be worth getting a checkup as a number of medical conditions and/or medications can interfere with temperature regulation.
Just as important will be when she decides to ride. When the days get really hot and she cannot acclimate to them, she should opt for riding in the morning or evening when it is cooler and the sun is not as direct. Plan rides with shorter segments and breaks where she can get out of the sun.
Endura Cool and Chill-Its both make microfiber skull caps and other headwear and towels that when dampened supposedly cool to 20-30 degrees below the ambient temperature. I've got one of the skull caps but I bought it late last summer and the weather never got hot enough for me to give it a fair test. Obviously these rely on evaporation and would work best in dry climates.
If your friend has trouble adjusting to exercise in even more moderate temperatures, it might be worth getting a checkup as a number of medical conditions and/or medications can interfere with temperature regulation.
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I don't know, I'm comfortable in shorts, t-shirt and sports bra when it's just above freezing, as long as I have gloves (because I have Raynaud's). But I'm comfortable in shorts, t-shirt and sports bra when it's 37 Celsius too...the only concern then is to stay well hydrated. I never feel like I'm too warm in my clothes unless they're too tight around the arms.
If your friend hasn't tried riding in hot weather, she should try it first before assuming that she'll be uncomfortable.
If your friend hasn't tried riding in hot weather, she should try it first before assuming that she'll be uncomfortable.
04-06-15, 07:50 AM
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I'll add to hang dry sports clothing and not use a dryer. There are some exceptions such as some padded shorts suggest machine drying to soften up the pad some. Read the washing instruction labels. Even then don't use fabric softener sheets.
Penguin Sport-Wash is designed for machine washing technical materials in cold water. It even helps renew clogged fabric. I use it (or Tide Free) and it seems to do the job very well. It's on sale right now at Performance Bike.
Come the hot weather, I ride in the early mornings to avoid the heat. Some of our group rides start at 7 AM for this reason. Sometimes I'll ride before dawn to avoid riding in triple digit weather (Fahrenheit of course) after work.
Penguin Sport-Wash is designed for machine washing technical materials in cold water. It even helps renew clogged fabric. I use it (or Tide Free) and it seems to do the job very well. It's on sale right now at Performance Bike.
Come the hot weather, I ride in the early mornings to avoid the heat. Some of our group rides start at 7 AM for this reason. Sometimes I'll ride before dawn to avoid riding in triple digit weather (Fahrenheit of course) after work.
04-06-15, 08:15 AM
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Thanks for the replies. @Judi, She is a size 18 and wears an xxl bicycle short, though I'm not sure what brand.
( she has only one at this point).
Most of the rest of her gear is general active wear designed for running , yoga, etc. Good
for getting started, but not quite serving the purpose now.
The event which prompted this querry happened Saturday. Three of us set out to do a metric century.
We started in a demoralizing headwind but at the halfway point, the route pointed us back to home and we were able
to "sail the tail" back to the start. The day started at -3 Celsius and rose to+1 Celsius by rides end.
After lunch, we shed a layer because there was no longer wind in our faces and it was a tad warmer.
My friend kept right on removing layers until she was in her bike shorts, wicking sport top, and sports bra.
She kept her ear band and warm gloves.
And rode the remaining 50km dressed like most folks would have been for +25 Celsius.
She was comfy.
So, you see the problem.
Any brands of cycle wear out there that will accommodate her size and are terrifically cooling in warmer weather?
She wants bibs and a jersey.
I know Gore makes some warm weather stuff. Will it fit? Will it work?
Any other manufactures have anything?
Or, is it WNBR all summer long?
( she has only one at this point).
Most of the rest of her gear is general active wear designed for running , yoga, etc. Good
for getting started, but not quite serving the purpose now.
The event which prompted this querry happened Saturday. Three of us set out to do a metric century.
We started in a demoralizing headwind but at the halfway point, the route pointed us back to home and we were able
to "sail the tail" back to the start. The day started at -3 Celsius and rose to+1 Celsius by rides end.
After lunch, we shed a layer because there was no longer wind in our faces and it was a tad warmer.
My friend kept right on removing layers until she was in her bike shorts, wicking sport top, and sports bra.
She kept her ear band and warm gloves.
And rode the remaining 50km dressed like most folks would have been for +25 Celsius.
She was comfy.
So, you see the problem.
Any brands of cycle wear out there that will accommodate her size and are terrifically cooling in warmer weather?
She wants bibs and a jersey.
I know Gore makes some warm weather stuff. Will it fit? Will it work?
Any other manufactures have anything?
Or, is it WNBR all summer long?
However, one downside to sleeveless in the summer is avoiding sunburn -- I find that I'm not actually necessarily that much hotter in a white, wicking, long-sleeved jersey, and once I'm sunburnt I'm miserable.
04-06-15, 08:37 AM
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Craft makes some interesting clothing for heat control - I have a set of Craft Body Control Arm Coolers and they wick so well I actually get cold in 100 degree weather if I spray water on them and then ride. I see they also have base layers that probably work just as well. They also function as a nice sunblock, and if you sweat a lot you would presumably not even need to spritz water on them.
You can tell your cycling clothing is working well when you stop to rest and then when you start back up again you actually cool down from sweat evaporating. Hot weather is hot weather though, you need to acclimate yourself and hydrate properly.
Team estrogen has some nice stuff for female cyclists. My wife likes that site quite a bit.
CRAFT Body Control Arm Coolers | muscle support sun sleeves
You can tell your cycling clothing is working well when you stop to rest and then when you start back up again you actually cool down from sweat evaporating. Hot weather is hot weather though, you need to acclimate yourself and hydrate properly.
Team estrogen has some nice stuff for female cyclists. My wife likes that site quite a bit.
CRAFT Body Control Arm Coolers | muscle support sun sleeves
04-06-15, 08:42 AM
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My wife is an Athena and has the biggest issues with sports bras. That's an extra layer us clydes don't deal with and I imagine they can get very hot based on the type they are. What quality is her sports bra and does it allow her sweat to wick away properly?
04-06-15, 10:13 AM
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I pretty much wear sleeveless jerseys starting from March on (perfect weather for me is between 50 - 65 degrees; everything over that is hot to me)... My favorites are from Terry and Garneau which can be purchased from teamestrogen.com.
But check out what target and JCP has to offer. Both sell inexpensive sport/workout gear made in wicking fabrics. Sleeveless jerseys should be coming out shortly (but no back pockets but cheap like $20 versus $100 for a cycling jersey). Also she should look to purchasing a cooling towel... there are many on the market. Wet it, wrap it around the neck and it offers some coolness.
But frankly what I really so is ride early in the morning or later at night, when the air is cooler. Buy a good set of lights and start riding at 5:00 am or after 7 - 8pm. There is something magical about riding in the dark anyway... I love it!
What everyone else has said should help out. I have a love/hate with summer... love the longer daylight hours, but just hate the heat. Just have to make do!
But check out what target and JCP has to offer. Both sell inexpensive sport/workout gear made in wicking fabrics. Sleeveless jerseys should be coming out shortly (but no back pockets but cheap like $20 versus $100 for a cycling jersey). Also she should look to purchasing a cooling towel... there are many on the market. Wet it, wrap it around the neck and it offers some coolness.
But frankly what I really so is ride early in the morning or later at night, when the air is cooler. Buy a good set of lights and start riding at 5:00 am or after 7 - 8pm. There is something magical about riding in the dark anyway... I love it!
What everyone else has said should help out. I have a love/hate with summer... love the longer daylight hours, but just hate the heat. Just have to make do!
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and NOTE: All sports clothes should be hang dry - no dryer. If it has spandex or wicking materials, dryers will damage. Right now I have jerseys, shorts, bras, gloves hanging up all over the house. But those items last me for years and years because I treat them right. Liquid detergent (Woolite is awesome), no fabric softeners
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My chest is my biggest concern... regular sports bra are made for all those skinny wimpy ladies... check out Ladygrace.com. They carry sports bra in much larger sizes. First time I could get anything for me that actually fits! Also thewomanwithin.com carries larger sports bras... bras just get soggy (although some are available with wicking fabrics) but at least she should get a good fit...
and NOTE: All sports clothes should be hang dry - no dryer. If it has spandex or wicking materials, dryers will damage. Right now I have jerseys, shorts, bras, gloves hanging up all over the house. But those items last me for years and years because I treat them right. Liquid detergent (Woolite is awesome), no fabric softeners
and NOTE: All sports clothes should be hang dry - no dryer. If it has spandex or wicking materials, dryers will damage. Right now I have jerseys, shorts, bras, gloves hanging up all over the house. But those items last me for years and years because I treat them right. Liquid detergent (Woolite is awesome), no fabric softeners
04-07-15, 09:03 AM
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Craft makes some interesting clothing for heat control - I have a set of Craft Body Control Arm Coolers and they wick so well I actually get cold in 100 degree weather if I spray water on them and then ride. I see they also have base layers that probably work just as well. They also function as a nice sunblock, and if you sweat a lot you would presumably not even need to spritz water on them.
You can tell your cycling clothing is working well when you stop to rest and then when you start back up again you actually cool down from sweat evaporating. Hot weather is hot weather though, you need to acclimate yourself and hydrate properly.
Team estrogen has some nice stuff for female cyclists. My wife likes that site quite a bit.
CRAFT Body Control Arm Coolers | muscle support sun sleeves
You can tell your cycling clothing is working well when you stop to rest and then when you start back up again you actually cool down from sweat evaporating. Hot weather is hot weather though, you need to acclimate yourself and hydrate properly.
Team estrogen has some nice stuff for female cyclists. My wife likes that site quite a bit.
CRAFT Body Control Arm Coolers | muscle support sun sleeves
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Lane Bryant has sports bras too. They have sizes up to a 48" band and H cup. I've tried their sports bras because that's the only place I can find a 40H, but honestly they didn't do much more for me than the 3pk of plain cotton sports bras at Walmart, the ones that only come in band sizes, not cup sizes.
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Only issue with arm coolers is that I haven't found anyone making them in Athena sizes -- women often (not always, but often) carry a fair amount of fat on the upper arms; I tried the biggest ones I could find but even after cutting out the elastic in the top they were just a bit too small. They do have a sun bolero, though, which is wider through the upper arm.
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Cycling Apparel, Bike Shorts, Bike Jerseys by Aero Tech Designs
I'm not sure how good ATD is at women's clothing but I have nothing but positive things to say about their men's clothing. Unlike most cycling gear, their stuff fits about the same size as street clothes, maybe 1 size small (since I don't want stuff too form fitting as an uber clyde) compared to 2-3 sizes small from most clothes.
For jerseys I wear a 3XL Colossal or a 4XL tall man's. Seeing as I usually wear 3XL or 3XLT t-shirts, that's pretty good. So it makes it easier to order online when I can trust the size chart.
I've enjoyed the gear so much that I plan to keep wearing it at a smaller size.
I'm not sure how good ATD is at women's clothing but I have nothing but positive things to say about their men's clothing. Unlike most cycling gear, their stuff fits about the same size as street clothes, maybe 1 size small (since I don't want stuff too form fitting as an uber clyde) compared to 2-3 sizes small from most clothes.
For jerseys I wear a 3XL Colossal or a 4XL tall man's. Seeing as I usually wear 3XL or 3XLT t-shirts, that's pretty good. So it makes it easier to order online when I can trust the size chart.
I've enjoyed the gear so much that I plan to keep wearing it at a smaller size.
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The LB bras are really just something I pulled over a real sports bra. Check ladygrace... they carry real sports bras (not just knit pullovers) with adjustments, heavier material, real sizing (width and cup) etc. I am really happy with the choices and trust me, I need the support and I get it from their selections.
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Cycling Apparel, Bike Shorts, Bike Jerseys by Aero Tech Designs
I'm not sure how good ATD is at women's clothing but I have nothing but positive things to say about their men's clothing. Unlike most cycling gear, their stuff fits about the same size as street clothes, maybe 1 size small (since I don't want stuff too form fitting as an uber clyde) compared to 2-3 sizes small from most clothes.
For jerseys I wear a 3XL Colossal or a 4XL tall man's. Seeing as I usually wear 3XL or 3XLT t-shirts, that's pretty good. So it makes it easier to order online when I can trust the size chart.
I've enjoyed the gear so much that I plan to keep wearing it at a smaller size.
I'm not sure how good ATD is at women's clothing but I have nothing but positive things to say about their men's clothing. Unlike most cycling gear, their stuff fits about the same size as street clothes, maybe 1 size small (since I don't want stuff too form fitting as an uber clyde) compared to 2-3 sizes small from most clothes.
For jerseys I wear a 3XL Colossal or a 4XL tall man's. Seeing as I usually wear 3XL or 3XLT t-shirts, that's pretty good. So it makes it easier to order online when I can trust the size chart.
I've enjoyed the gear so much that I plan to keep wearing it at a smaller size.
And Terry has warmers but not coolers in plus, plus have a sunblocker bolero in plus, which I haven't tried. I have one of their XXL longsleeve sunblocker jerseys though, which is pretty great except it's a half-inch too short -- I ended up with a pretty ridiculous suntan on a 400k brevet last summer -- a thin line across mid-back. I was comfy, though, in brutal heat in it.
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Here's to hoping that more and more companies focus on nontraditional riders. Finding good gear as an uber clyde is hard enough. Athenas must really be hard since it seems like most manufacturers in the bike world focus on men. 400k? Cool! Congratulations! I'm still working on cracking 30 miles (maybe Sunday).
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Thanks to everyone for the replies.
I've sent the link to this thread on and I'm sure my Friend will find it valuable.
If nothing else, the friendly , helpful advice will encourage her to join us all here on bike forums!
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