Stupid morality question, or is it?
05-20-15, 01:35 PM
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Stupid morality question, or is it?
I ordered these two helmets online that I would like to try, I mean beyond putting them on for fit. I wanna go on a 20+ mile ride with both, afterwards, return the one that I don't like. Would that be wrong, or unethical because I would have sweated in the one I'm returning?
05-20-15, 01:51 PM
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05-20-15, 01:52 PM
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Yes.
05-20-15, 01:56 PM
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Depends on the return policy. If they stipulate satisfaction guaranteed, 30 day no questions asked or something along those lines, I'd say no, but I'd tell them what you did so they can choose. If not, then I'd say yes. Where did you order them from?
This is Competitive Cyclists policy:
In this case, I'd say that as long as you return it as used for store credit, then you're fine. If you return it as new, unused, then I don't think highly of you as a person and really hope I never get the helmet you returned.
This is Competitive Cyclists policy:
[h=4]100% GUARANTEED RETURNS[/h] We guarantee your total satisfaction and offer a world-class returns policy. New,unused gear can be returned at any time for a full refund. Used gear must be returned within 30 days of delivery for store credit.
- New, unused gear must be returned in the condition you received it and with the original box and/or packaging, including manufacturer tags where applicable.
- Used and undamaged gear, bikes, or bike frames will be issued store credit in the form of credits applied to your Competitive Cyclist account. We will not accept the return of products damaged due to negligence or abuse.
05-20-15, 02:09 PM
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I don't buy helmets online, only from bike shops, so I don't care what you do, as I'm not going to get your used sweaty helmet. 
05-20-15, 02:10 PM
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05-20-15, 02:19 PM
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Yeah, that was my first thought... but don't think my cap will catch all of the sweat...
Here is Performance's return policy...
I may be safe returning to them if I like the one from Amazon better... I normally buy from LBS but none of the LBS's in my area had the Lazer and no one had the Garneau in my XL size, yeah I have big head... LOL!!
Here is Performance's return policy...
We stand behind every product we sell. If an item does not meet your expectations, simply return it. We guarantee your money back for a full year. After one year, we’ll provide an exchange, repair, or store credit to ensure you have the product that meets your needs. If you’ve lost your receipt, we’ll provide a store credit at our current price.
05-20-15, 04:39 PM
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My experience with helmets... you can tell trying them on if they will be comfortable... no need to ride with it. You might check with your LBS if they have loaner helmets to try; many do. Shops struggle to make a profit; I would try not to eat into it by returning a used helmet when there is no need...
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05-20-15, 05:38 PM
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My experience with helmets... you can tell trying them on if they will be comfortable... no need to ride with it. You might check with your LBS if they have loaner helmets to try; many do. Shops struggle to make a profit; I would try not to eat into it by returning a used helmet when there is no need...
A bicycle helmet would be even easier to fit (it is so much lighter) and much easier to sit on the couch for an hour and see how it feels. No need to get it all sweaty by wearing on a ride, you will gain no additional information this way.
Little bit of a rant - nothing is free. The company that sells Performance the helmets expects to get paid, and Performance employees and vendors expect to get paid. The cost of that helmet that gets returned after a year of being worn is factored into the pricing the rest of us pay for everything. Don't get me started on Amazon's BS - most likely they are pushing the costs of that worn return off on a small company and even if they eat the cost themselves, *they*do*not*consistently*make*a*profit.
But, to be clear, I am not on my high horse
about ordering multiple helmets, trying them on and returning the ones you don't like - I just have an issue with wearing one for a 20 mile ride and then returning it. DaveW
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How could someone even ask such a question.
Let me turn it around
Do you want my sweaty cycling shorts? My balls only smell a little.
I lost 60 pounds and have half a dozen stinky bibs and short that need a new home. No charge? Only the Descente quality short are free. I am returning the Assos for a credit.
Let me turn it around
Do you want my sweaty cycling shorts? My balls only smell a little.
I lost 60 pounds and have half a dozen stinky bibs and short that need a new home. No charge? Only the Descente quality short are free. I am returning the Assos for a credit.
05-20-15, 06:41 PM
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How could someone even ask such a question.
Let me turn it around
Do you want my sweaty cycling shorts? My balls only smell a little.
I lost 60 pounds and have half a dozen stinky bibs and short that need a new home. No charge? Only the Descente quality short are free. I am returning the Assos for a credit.
Let me turn it around
Do you want my sweaty cycling shorts? My balls only smell a little.
I lost 60 pounds and have half a dozen stinky bibs and short that need a new home. No charge? Only the Descente quality short are free. I am returning the Assos for a credit.
05-20-15, 07:02 PM
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My experience with helmets... you can tell trying them on if they will be comfortable... no need to ride with it. You might check with your LBS if they have loaner helmets to try; many do. Shops struggle to make a profit; I would try not to eat into it by returning a used helmet when there is no need...
At that time, I just took the lowest cost helmet that fit in the color I wanted..LOL. It has served me well over the years, but now that cycling is a major part of my lifestyle I want a better helmet. This time I know what I want. One criteria is better is airflow, again, hence the reason I wanted to ride with one on.How could someone even ask such a question.
Let me turn it around
Do you want my sweaty cycling shorts? My balls only smell a little.
I lost 60 pounds and have half a dozen stinky bibs and short that need a new home. No charge? Only the Descente quality short are free. I am returning the Assos for a credit.
Let me turn it around
Do you want my sweaty cycling shorts? My balls only smell a little.
I lost 60 pounds and have half a dozen stinky bibs and short that need a new home. No charge? Only the Descente quality short are free. I am returning the Assos for a credit.
Little bit of a rant - nothing is free. The company that sells Performance the helmets expects to get paid, and Performance employees and vendors expect to get paid. The cost of that helmet that gets returned after a year of being worn is factored into the pricing the rest of us pay for everything. Don't get me started on Amazon's BS - most likely they are pushing the costs of that worn return off on a small company and even if they eat the cost themselves, *they*do*not*consistently*make*a*profit.
But, to be clear, I am not on my high horse about ordering multiple helmets, trying them on and returning the ones you don't like - I just have an issue with wearing one for a 20 mile ride and then returning it.
DaveW
But, to be clear, I am not on my high horse
about ordering multiple helmets, trying them on and returning the ones you don't like - I just have an issue with wearing one for a 20 mile ride and then returning it. DaveW
BTW, I received the Garneau helmet this evening. I DID NOT ride with it, but the fit felt very good. The vents on this sucker are huge!!! Can't wait to get the Lazer helmet to compare.. Also I've been convinced to NOT go on a 20 mile ride to checkout the ventilation..
05-20-15, 08:07 PM
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stick your head out of the car window while your wife is driving to test air flow 
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When I get a helmet that I don't really like, it goes on a nail on the garage wall and I use it for guests. Maybe you could keep your extra helmet for a loaner, or if one has more airflow than the other, one could be a summer helmet and the other a winter helmet.
One thing about looking for a helmet with a lot of air vents, it really depends on how much hair you have. I'm losing my hair because of a medical condition and I had to swap out my helmet with the vents for one that has nearly none, because I kept getting sunburns on my scalp where the vents were.
One thing about looking for a helmet with a lot of air vents, it really depends on how much hair you have. I'm losing my hair because of a medical condition and I had to swap out my helmet with the vents for one that has nearly none, because I kept getting sunburns on my scalp where the vents were.
05-21-15, 02:49 AM
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When I get a helmet that I don't really like, it goes on a nail on the garage wall and I use it for guests. Maybe you could keep your extra helmet for a loaner, or if one has more airflow than the other, one could be a summer helmet and the other a winter helmet.
One thing about looking for a helmet with a lot of air vents, it really depends on how much hair you have. I'm losing my hair because of a medical condition and I had to swap out my helmet with the vents for one that has nearly none, because I kept getting sunburns on my scalp where the vents were.
One thing about looking for a helmet with a lot of air vents, it really depends on how much hair you have. I'm losing my hair because of a medical condition and I had to swap out my helmet with the vents for one that has nearly none, because I kept getting sunburns on my scalp where the vents were.
05-21-15, 03:47 AM
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Yeah, my concern with was with air flow, hence me wanting to try it on a ride... With the Giro helmet I have now, I get VERY hot, very little airflow... This was the first helmet that I brought when I purchased my first bike a few years ago, when I didn't know what I didn't know... At that time, I just took the lowest cost helmet that fit in the color I wanted..LOL. It has served me well over the years, but now that cycling is a major part of my lifestyle I want a better helmet. This time I know what I want. One criteria is better is airflow, again, hence the reason I wanted to ride with one on.
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At that time, I just took the lowest cost helmet that fit in the color I wanted..LOL. It has served me well over the years, but now that cycling is a major part of my lifestyle I want a better helmet. This time I know what I want. One criteria is better is airflow, again, hence the reason I wanted to ride with one on..
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