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    OMG Its HEre ! (A sequel)

    JThe steel frame i ordered up to replace my carbon bike is here! -The graphics are subdued, -- and i almost thought a tad homely, but when i looked at everything - its a stunning piece of work --






    Geez - that crankset! -- You roadies may think this stuff is old hat, but im a converted mtb'er --- this lightweight trick stuff still gets me going




    Perhaps most importantly -- it was Monday Night Football night at my local tavern and personal pizzas were $5 apiece ---- In celebration of the Pinarello, i ordered this




    - Lets Ride !!
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    Beautiful I'm jealous (in a good way).

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    Congrats.

    I've never seen a frame like that before. Where does the carbon begin and end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett2 View Post
    Congrats.

    I've never seen a frame like that before. Where does the carbon begin and end?
    its the seatstays and brake bridge - the chainstays are painted black so it looks continuous, but they are steel -- was a popular design on higher end aluminum frames to take out some of the road buzz that stiff aluminum was known for, --Pinarello's idea i guess was to try to get a steel frame with a comparable weight to Ti

    the batteries in my berkley fish scale died or i would have some numbers,- but the wheelset i will be using initially is a higher spoke count wheel so i'd be happy if it built up as a 20 pounder

    i will make some headway on building it up this evening

    different equipment is fun, but i better realize now that true change for me is going to be reeling in my meal sizes and doing things like i described above-- grabbing some blackened chicken when every fiber of my being is calling for pizza, and eating breakfast at home instead of grabbing a biscuit sandwich or two from a drive thru

    but that said, if a different mount can inspire to get in a bit more road work, so much the better
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    Sweet! Looking forward to seeing the build.

    Out of interest, how much does it weigh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr_lha View Post
    Sweet! Looking forward to seeing the build.

    Out of interest, how much does it weigh?
    I'll try to get my scale up and running tonight -- i'm curious on the weight too --- having to work late really put the axe to me getting to do any serious wrenching today

    The Octalink bottom bracket is a sealed cartridge unit, so not a lot of need to remove it unless i want to grease the threads or something, - and it has a pressed in integrated headset installed that i am also not inclined to mess with -- but i can figure out the weight of those items using the google box no doubt and deduct them from the total

    My curiosity will be weighing it as is, then comparing it to my old Litespeed --- since i will be robbing a lot of parts from that bike to do an initial build up (has a very fresh D-A 7800 group and wheels with less than 1k on them just sitting there going to waste) --- it should be a fairly direct comparison--- The Litespeed was not a feather for a Ti bike, it was about 19 lbs, but the wheelset is durable enough to survive with my big bo-honkus on it

    Light bikes are fun, but at my size, too much lighter than that is probably asking for durability issues

    I hate calling the Litespeed a "donor bike" , but it is what it is -- I am not selling it, i am going to strip the yellow/red paint and polish it and consider having some S&S couplers installed for a travel bike --- Its not a horrible bike at all -- it just has a longer rangier top tube and a more relaxed seat angle than an Italian bike typically has
    -- old pic from a garage cleanout day -- i dont know why the Litespeed is wearing a track bike front wheel and vice versa --- hmmmmm

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    Update

    Got this machine basically put together last night -

    The stem is wrong, i know -- and the chain is soaking in degreaser right now as it is too cold today for this guy - so the shakedown cruise will have to wait a day or two

    But i'm pleasantly surprised at how handsome a machine it turned out to be --- as i mentioned earlier, i robbed a nice Litespeed of its kibbles n bits to get it going on the relative cheap --- i forgot the wheels had stainless spokes - which fits my somewhat old school sensibilities well
    The blue tires are 9 years old, so i am swapping them out -- originally i wanted to go with a set of Open tubulars i have in 27, but the rear clearance looks like 23 may be it, -- but i will mount a 25 just to see --- 25's are quite tolerable and i hope they fit

    Anyway -- i'm hoping it rides as good as it looks ---- i have talked to my local shop keep about setting up a fitting as well --- I plan to bring this bike in along with my late model carbon bike that i want to like, but havent gotten comfortable on yet --- and we will see exactly which one suits me the best i hope


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    Interesting; that used to be a pretty high-dollar frameset. It looks great, so I'm guessing it was NOS somewhere? It's early 2000s, no? Should be pretty sweet ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaadster View Post
    Interesting; that used to be a pretty high-dollar frameset. It looks great, so I'm guessing it was NOS somewhere? It's early 2000s, no? Should be pretty sweet ride.
    It looks NOS, but it was built up - the previous owner stated he bought it NOS a couple of years ago but really needed a 56, - so it does have about 500 miles on it --- which is about enough to decide if a frame is going to work out or not (i dont need that many miles myself )

    It is a neat frame --- and not a tremendous amount of info on it online -- but from what i can gather, -- the Dogma model w
    as at the top of the heap in 2004, and still is today --- with the Opera and Prince positioned just below it at roughly equal price points.
    I traced it to a '04 model as the they went from 1" to 1 1/8 steerer in 03 , then a 31.9 post in 04, which this one has -- but later years had the squiggly seatstays

    They all look the same but the Dogma was built with a magnesium alloy main frame --- while the Prince was 7005 aluminum and the Opera was thinwall steel.
    As for me, regardless of hierarchy in the catalog or initial expense, -- i'd prefer the steel mainframe anyway -- it is an enduring material, and the steel frames were reportedly welded up under contract at the Dario Pegoretti shop, ---

    Not that i'm worried about being "period correct" on a relatively high tech frame , - but the D-A 7800 stuff fits the bill there too - although i am going to need to find a larger rear cassette for my particular needs

    Here's just a tiny bit of info from the original catalog








    PINARELLO 2004 Opera Frame Set





    Opera Frame Set
    • Steel EOM 16.5 Acciaio
    • Tubing “Opera Pegaso Pinarello”
    • TIG welding
    • Fork BETA full carbon 1 1/8’’ integral system
    • Available from 50 to 62 center-center in 1 cm increments
    • Available in the sloping size 45.5
    • Originally priced at $2500


    Frame Geometry

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    Pegoretti welded, eh? Well damn, that's cool.

    That was a pretty tech'ed out frameset in its day. Let us know how it goes.
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    Looks good, but some blue accents (e.g. bar tape) might make it look better.

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    I read that it was rumored that these were made by Pegoretti also. Just a rumor but a cool one none the less! Looking pretty sweet so far.

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    Nothing wrong with a good steel bike once ya get her rolling. If your lucky it's been
    built to last a life time. (with the occasional upgrade & a few little repairs)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr_lha View Post
    I read that it was rumored that these were made by Pegoretti also. Just a rumor but a cool one none the less! Looking pretty sweet so far.
    I'm trying to get a yeay or nay on that one -- its an interesting tid bit if so --- If i sent an email to the PEgoretti shop they may declare Omerta.

    Could be plausible since the world was ga ga over metal matrix, aluminum and carbon starting the early 00's --- a lineup of steel frames could have been farmed out, but the reasoning i heard was that PEgoretti had extensive experience with the very thin PEgaso tubes used for the main frame

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    Didnt mean to take so long to update this -- a couple of folks were curious about the weight of this one -- been so darn busy with my job , plus nasty, windy weather has made road cycling not too appealing lately .......... but

    Today it was put on the "scale of truth" at my local shop

    18.23 lbs sans pedals --- i'm guessing a hair over 19 with my preferred XT or XTR level SPD's

    Thats with the heavy Turbo saddle and Mavic Cosmos wheels ---

    I dont know why we as cyclists in general fixate on weight when most of us could stand to lose a few ourselves, -- but light bikes are fun anyway

    I am happy with 19 lbs more or less given the heavy wheels, budget grade handlebars(Performance Forte ), and 450 gram saddle --- if i had more money than sense, i can only speculate what it would weigh with a set of Enve tubulars on Chris King hubs with a nice tire, --- plus a Flite saddle or equivalent .

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