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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 09-04-06, 07:19 PM   #776
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Oh - and in terms of appetite suppressants:

Grapefruit seed oil. About 15 drops in a glass of water (have water in there before putting it in, stir because it doesn't dissolve well. I usually use a plastic cup I reserve just for that). Really works, though really bitter. You could get it in any natural food store that sells essential oils and stuff and lasts a freakin' long time.
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Old 09-04-06, 07:21 PM   #777
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I'm going to get on the stick and break 220 this month. That is my goal.
I had a very different image in my mind until I realized what thread we were on
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another clyde here.....5'11" 216, down from 254. what got me started was the guys in my firehouse started calling me fat. When a fireman tells you your fat, that means your WAY TO F@#$ING FAT. So, first came the mountain bike, a stumpy fsr 06, then A month ago I built a look 565. Best thing I ever did for myself. By next summer, i want to see 190.
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Oh - and in terms of appetite suppressants:

Grapefruit seed oil. About 15 drops in a glass of water (have water in there before putting it in, stir because it doesn't dissolve well. I usually use a plastic cup I reserve just for that). Really works, though really bitter. You could get it in any natural food store that sells essential oils and stuff and lasts a freakin' long time.
Grapefruit products assist in weight loss too. There is actually a grapefruit diet ppl have gone on, but first hand experience it helped me lose a couple more pounds when I was working out all the time. It has to be bitter though, you dont add sugar to the fruit or to any grapefruit juice you buy. For many that is the hardest part, but it works. I would eat a couple snack bars at 6am, at 8 I would eat a lean cuisine around 10 oclock I would eat a grapefruit and at 12 another lean cuisine. I then had a snack at 2 and dinner at 6 when I got home (another lean cuisine). All of that combined with weight training I lost 20 lbs in about 3 months. When my mom got cancer and couldnt work out as much I gained it back to 255 then lost in again in another 3 months and now I am back up to 250 because I did not work out for about 9 months. The diet worked very well for me, and it wasnt even that it was lean cuisine, it just let me monitor the exact number of calories I was taking in. I believe I lost a lot more than 20 in fat because my muscle mass jumped big time.

Other weight loss helpers:

Calcium: Studies show that higher calcium lifestyles people lose weight more efficiently. They say for men not to take over 2000mg a day because it can causes prostate problems. What I did was purchase a huge bottle of calcium 600mg tablets and take one at breakfast and one at dinner. If I knew I wouldnt have much calcium that day I would take a third in the middle of the day.

5-6 meals: 5-6 meals a day is much better than the standard 3, from personal experience I can tell you if nothing else it keeps you from being hungry. The theory behind it is that your metabolism speeds up when you eat, so by eating little meals all day it is keeping your metabolism running, which in turn keeps you from being hungry.

Protein: Protein shakes will help you in many ways, especially if it is whey protein. Whey has many benefits, which you would need to read about since there are too many to list, but it will help in muscle rebuilding, recovery and it will also help lose weight. That is because protein is harder for the body to break down and uses more energy to do so, which is one reason why the atkins diet was so effective. I was working out intensly so I was taking just under 1g per lb of my bodyweight.

L-Glutamine: Here is an article about it, I just used it to regain the muscle I had while doing cardio. L-Glutamine

I do not pretend to know everything, but I did do a lot of research when I was working out and all of it helped me lose weight. I would be where I want to be if I hadnt had so many things happen keeping me from being able to work out. It is hard to lose weight for many and I am one of them, so for those getting frustrated try some of those things out and see how they help you.
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Can anybody share a riding routine with me? I can't find a decent one on the net. I am trying to find the biking equivalent of this web site (www.halhigdon.com). Hal Higdon is a running coach, that specializes in training for runners of novice, intermediate, and advanced levels. His goals are clear (miles) and has tweaked each challenge for improvements in stamina and time.

I got out some OK rides this weekend, but would like to add more structure to the madness.
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Question for the mid 200 lb guys on here. Where do you keep your calorie/fat/carb/protein intake? I take in between 2000-2500 calories and [try to keep under] 60 grams of fat. In general I've been shooting for that 30-60-10 of fat-carb-protein but it seems to be easier to do that when I take in a lot more calories. When I go on longer rides (30-40 miles) my caloric intake can shoot up to 3000-3500 but since my calculations say I burn between 1600-2000 calories I feel like I'm ahead of the game. Every calculator I look at says at least 3000 calories (and that's if I say I'm sedentary - though I'm pretty active on average throughout the week) but if I take in that much I seem to gain weight without any other activity.

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Calcium: Studies show that higher calcium lifestyles people lose weight more efficiently. They say for men not to take over 2000mg a day because it can causes prostate problems. What I did was purchase a huge bottle of calcium 600mg tablets and take one at breakfast and one at dinner. If I knew I wouldnt have much calcium that day I would take a third in the middle of the day.
Those studies are in dispute, and the more complete answer is that the calcium depletes your body of vitamin D. The calcium is not causing prostate cancer, but the lower levels of vitamin D is. Taking a good multivitamin, and asking your doctor, provided that he/she is a good doctor, to tell you what areas you are deficient in and what areas you should supplement is the best route.
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Question for the mid 200 lb guys on here. Where do you keep your calorie/fat/carb/protein intake?
I try to keep down the fats, especially trans-fats. On the flip side, I usually like to eat salmon and other fatty fish several times a week to get the "beneficial fats". This has done wonders for my cholesterol. Beside watching the fats, and trying to keep the carbs in check, I do not worry about caloric intake or anything else. I try to eat foods with a low glycemic index. Without the massive blood sugar swings caused by eating foods with a high glycemic index, I can tell the difference between being hungry because my body needs nutrients, and being hungry because my blood sugar is out of whack and it is craving more sugar. I have been steadily dropping about two pounds a week, and I feel better than I have in years. Some days, I am sure I eat 3000+ calories, but it is mostly fish, fruit, vegetables, whole grains, etc.

edited to add: I am down to 269. Back in June, I was around 295
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Can anybody share a riding routine with me?

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I got out some OK rides this weekend, but would like to add more structure to the madness.
What are your goals? Lose weight? Ride a century? There are some good sites, but they are tailored to different end-goals.
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Those studies are in dispute, and the more complete answer is that the calcium depletes your body of vitamin D. The calcium is not causing prostate cancer, but the lower levels of vitamin D is. Taking a good multivitamin, and asking your doctor, provided that he/she is a good doctor, to tell you what areas you are deficient in and what areas you should supplement is the best route.

I remember hearing that now, looking at my bottle of Calcium it has vitamin D which should make it safer. They were saying that it seemed to only be a problem if you are taking over 2000mg of calcium.

Also if you go to a nutritionist they can send out sample of your hair to a testing company that can determine what vitamins you are lacking. Because while you may take Xmg of vitamin E your body may only process 1/2 of that. You can also check boxes of common problems you have, some I remember are itchy feet, swollen ankles, etc. The test is about $100 I have not done it yet, but as soon as I can I will.
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What are your goals? Lose weight? Ride a century? There are some good sites, but they are tailored to different end-goals.
Goals? I need Goals?

I am actually trying to get my legs adn build stregth and speed in my legs until the end of the year. I live in Chicago, and not that great with the cold so I will most likely be inside come mid November.

Next year, I want to compete in a sprint tri, and do a cent ride.

Although a clyde now, I want to continue losing weight. Between now and next June I would like to Drop 50 pounds. I have recentrly lost 40, so I am kinda at a road block at the moment. I believe my body is just getting used to being at its current weight, and hoepfully will start dropping again!
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I ride 4 times a week, broken down like:

Tuesday - intervals hard ride, sometimes on the indoor trainer
Wednesday - tempo ride
Saturday - easy ride, usually on indoor trainer
Sunday - longer tempo ride

I have been trying to increase speed, so mentally my week is centered around the hard ride and the tempo rides are to guage how things are going.

this seem to work for me as I have been increasing speed gradually.


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I try to keep down the fats, especially trans-fats. On the flip side, I usually like to eat salmon and other fatty fish several times a week to get the "beneficial fats". This has done wonders for my cholesterol. Beside watching the fats, and trying to keep the carbs in check, I do not worry about caloric intake or anything else. I try to eat foods with a low glycemic index. Without the massive blood sugar swings caused by eating foods with a high glycemic index, I can tell the difference between being hungry because my body needs nutrients, and being hungry because my blood sugar is out of whack and it is craving more sugar. I have been steadily dropping about two pounds a week, and I feel better than I have in years. Some days, I am sure I eat 3000+ calories, but it is mostly fish, fruit, vegetables, whole grains, etc.

edited to add: I am down to 269. Back in June, I was around 295
Thanks for the info! I try to stay away from red meat in favor of turkey (my staple!) and salmon. I also make and eat whole wheat pasta or brown rice before riding - find it doesn't burn off so quickly. Problem is that I've been staying around 260 all summer despite keeping the calories down and riding so something's not happening right I'd like to get down to 220 or 230 but my weight's been fluctuating between 258 and 263. Really fustrating!
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Advantage Clydesdale :)

Did a 26 mile ride on Monday. Mill Valley, Sausilito, Golden Gate Bridge, San Francisco. Climbed what was to me an enormous hill to get from Sausalito up to the GG Bridge. Panting, sweating, crying, praying, spitting all the way to the top, but I did it.

On the way down gravity rules! I followed this skinny bike punk down the hill, he would keep looking back and then pedal as fast as he could, but there I was, riding the brakes to keep from passing. I would have passed but that would have meant taking those turns at 35+mph and thats a little to scary for my 300# body right now. I know, I know, no guts no glory!
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On the way down gravity rules! I followed this skinny bike punk down the hill, he would keep looking back and then pedal as fast as he could, but there I was, riding the brakes to keep from passing.
Ahhh, our one true advantage. Congrats on that ride. I had a ride planned to go hit some hills, and popped a spoke the day before. I have tentatively planned on later this week. Around here, it is flat as a pancake.
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Next year, I want to compete in a sprint tri, and do a cent ride.
Here is a good "21 week guide" for a sprint tri. It is assuming that you are coming from zero in all three sports.
http://www.slowtwitch.com/mainheadin.../training.html

I have found this helpful for planning the long rides:
http://www.cptips.com/mileage.htm
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... Panting, sweating, crying, praying, spitting all the way to the top, but I did it.

On the way down gravity rules! I followed this skinny bike punk down the hill, he would keep looking back and then pedal as fast as he could, but there I was, riding the brakes to keep from passing. I would have passed but that would have meant taking those turns at 35+mph and thats a little to scary for my 300# body right now. I know, I know, no guts no glory!
Funny, I was doing the same thing only I was in Orlando, FL. Who new that Orlando had so many "Mountains". I live in Jacksonville FL, and the closest thing we have to hills or mountains are bridges crossing the river, only I did pass the tiny little puke after he gave me a nasty look as I asked him to pace me up one of the higher "peaks". He was less than cordial about the whole issue so I dusted him down the backside. Clocked in at 32 mph, . I was staying at my aunt house in Bayhill and her neighbor is a cop and he happened to be behind us. After I got back to the house he came over to warn me that the speed limit was 25 mph and has a "no throwing it in the face of the little guy while going down hill" ordinace. We laughed as he too is a clydesdale at 235 lbs and has done the same thing to this particular dude.
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I'm looking for a new bike and I think I want a Specialized Allez Triple...here's the rub, I weigh 240 and am 5'7"...will this bike be sturdy enough for me. I want to lose weight and cycling has just grabbed me by the ears and whipped my butt. I am so excited but I can't get out there until i have a bike.

I do have an extremely cheap mountain bike that I am riding untill I save the money for the Allez.
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I'm looking for a new bike and I think I want a Specialized Allez Triple...here's the rub, I weigh 240 and am 5'7"...will this bike be sturdy enough for me.
That bike will be just fine. Pay special attention to the wheels. I believe that the Allez triple comes with 32 spoke Alex DA1 wheel on the back. I'm not sure of the strength of that setup, but it looks promising. Your LBS should be able to steer you right. However, at 240 and going down, I doubt you would have any problems.

Have you tried the Roubaix? A lot of Clydes like the more upright fit of the Roubaix.
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Hey folks,

Thanks for all the words of encouragement. I took the plunge last night and bought a Trek Pilot 1.0 from a LBS. I test rode a Trek 1000 also but, coming from a homemade hybrid, the Pilot felt more comfortable and solid. I'm hoping it will make a good transition bike until I feel ready for an all-out road machine.
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I took the plunge last night and bought a Trek Pilot 1.0 from a LBS. I test rode a Trek 1000 also but, coming from a homemade hybrid, the Pilot felt more comfortable and solid. I'm hoping it will make a good transition bike until I feel ready for an all-out road machine.
Don't sell the Pilot short, as it is a plenty capable bike. After test riding various bikes (I also have a hybrid right now), I liked the feel of the pilot. It was a lot more comfortable for me. When I get to my ideal weight, I might want another "race" bike with a compact double for TRIs and TTs, but I think I am going to get a pilot for my main bike.
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Quick review on the Performance Elite Bib:

Not for thunderthighs.They fit well except for the thighs, maybe they'll strechout abit after a few wash, I guess.

Other shorts I have (which has roomier thighs at the same size): Performance Elite knickers, Nashbar shorts.
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Hey Clyde's

What biking shirts do you purchase? I bought 2 from performance and they are XXL. They fit me well, and I am not obscene in them. I then tried on a led zeppelin jersey and I was screaming out of it.

I will be looking to get a long sleeve option at some point, can you guys reccomend brands that run big. I am not sure if its an American Europe fit, but I need some stuff. On a positive note, my shorts are actualy XL, so I got that going for me (Caddyshack reference)!
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I have the Nashbar bib century gels.(Word order may vary...) Nice fit.

I also have a tee shirt material "jersey" from them which I really like. Pockets in the back but cotten. That is a great shirt. I don't have the too snug fat guy gut thing going...
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hiya, new to the site and all; I'm a 21 year old college student and need to lose some weight.

We'll I didn't ride as much as I planned this summer and ended up gaining some weight back (my low at beginning of the summer was ~220lb) but now I'm back up around 270lb (eek!)

My father gave me a new Specialized Roubaix Elite w/ carbon frame (he has the same bike himself too) and the bike shop told me that the carbon seat post is only recommended for 250lb. Am I taking a serious chance of getting injured using the carbon zertz seat post? I have put about 30 miles on the bike so far and haven't had any problems yet but I just want to make sure.

I'm a new road cyclist (always used a mt bike in the past so this is much different) so if you have any simple tips just lmk!
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