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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

View Poll Results: What's your approximate body fat in relation to weight?
I'm a clyde only when my BF is over 20% 45 40.18%
I'm a clyde when my BF is a healthy 10-20% 46 41.07%
I'm a clyde when my BF is in race trim (below 10%) 21 18.75%
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Old 09-29-06, 10:25 AM   #26
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I have skinny wrists and ankles- all of my weight is in my torso. I'm 6'3" 250. My ideal weight is about 190, so in theory, I could get out of the clyde category- but why- I get a lot harder workout in less time being a fat guy!
There was a long thread on this. Unless you are doing mostly hill work, the benefits of larger body mass (or any extra weight on the bike) are pretty small -- as far as additional calories burned.
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There was a long thread on this. Unless you are doing mostly hill work, the benefits of larger body mass (or any extra weight on the bike) are pretty small -- as far as additional calories burned.
Hambone- you really know how to ruin a guy's day!

I was actually just kidding around- my body type (kind of pear shaped) is one of the highest risks for a heart attack according to my doctor. I'm slowly changing my diet and cycling regularly- with 2 young children, I want to hang around for a bit!
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Old 09-29-06, 11:43 AM   #28
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There was a long thread on this. Unless you are doing mostly hill work, the benefits of larger body mass (or any extra weight on the bike) are pretty small -- as far as additional calories burned.
as clydes we're never going to win king of the mountain so if you haven't got anything constructive to say please don't say anything

Fat Louie - as long as you're focused on fat to muscle replacement rather than fit to gut en-slobment then just do what makes you feel healthy - for me that's light weights, high reps, lots of 70-80% cardio sessions, cycling to work - that means I don't bulk up and run rings around most other guys my height/weight

for most of us clydes strength isn't a problem and putting on muscle mass is easy so I try and focus on endurance which seems to work
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as clydes we're never going to win king of the mountain so if you haven't got anything constructive to say please don't say anything
I remember playing a game called King of the Mountain when I was a kid. The point was for everyone to try and knock someone (the King) down from whatever milk-crate or suburban power-box thing (the 'mountain') they were standing on. I'm huge. I'd totally rule at that game now.
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There was a long thread on this. Unless you are doing mostly hill work, the benefits of larger body mass (or any extra weight on the bike) are pretty small -- as far as additional calories burned.
Er, I took part in that thread, and that wasn't exactly the case. According the Kreutzotter calculator, a doubling of weight resulted in a 47% increase in calories needed to propel at speed. On the Caloriesperhour website, the calories required to pedal at the same speed as a lighter rider was more like 100%.
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I am almost 6'2" and when I am leaned down, I am ~190, currently, I am about 205 (gained 4 lbs going to my daughters wedding) but that is already dropping again.

As long as I can comfortably fit in 34" waist pants - I ain't worrying about my weight. I might be a little soft in the middle yet, but I can pedal up almost anything and still be enjoying it.

by the way, are my days numbered in the group if I drop below 200 lbs?
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Old 09-29-06, 02:59 PM   #32
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Lean legs, fatback and fat gut. Damn beer!
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Old 09-29-06, 04:30 PM   #33
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Im an ex powerlifting/bodybuilding clyde and 205 at 10.5% and about 6'0

I mainly ride now and cut my llifting back so ill probably drop below 200 soon and settle at about 190 and 9% or so, I have no desire to be 150 pound guy and will try to retain some LBM
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BMI is a joke guys and most athletes and especially bodybuilders need use skin calipers to check. Accumeasure makes a single site "supra illiac" one the is within 1% of the gold standard. It also comes with a chart that gives you your % for your age as we gain visceral fat as we age.

do a search on accumeasure, its like $20..
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At present, I'm 6'#" at last weighing was 316. Went from 315 and a XXL waist size to 316lbs with a XL waist.Lost one size and gained a pound, go figure! However I feel fit doing a 15.6 mile ride in 1:12 mins.Up and down hill on a FM road!So, you tell me!

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Old 09-29-06, 09:20 PM   #36
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Muscle mass is heavier than fat! You dropped fat, gained muscle and reproportioned! Still a net gain in health!
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trying to get back to fit. at least fit into my jeans.

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I remember playing a game called King of the Mountain when I was a kid. The point was for everyone to try and knock someone (the King) down from whatever milk-crate or suburban power-box thing (the 'mountain') they were standing on. I'm huge. I'd totally rule at that game now.
i remember playing that game. we played on large mounds of sand/dirt at construction sights.

i pretty much store everything in the love handles/stomach. burns off pretty easily when i cut out everything that i shouldn't have and ride a lot & exercise. hmmmm i see an infomercial here.
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Old 10-05-06, 05:59 PM   #38
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6'3", 285 lbs. The gut may go away someday, but the shoulders and legs are pretty much permanently attached. The only way I'd stop being a Clyde is if (1) I lost every last last ounce of body fat and (2) had a leg amputated. I wouldn't mind coming close on #1. Think I'll pass on #2, though.
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weight woes

5'11" (was 280) now 265lbs. 48 years old. Sedentary lifestyle between 30 and 40, cancer diagnosis at 42, still alive at 48 and have been riding regularly since my chemo treatments stopped 4+ years ago. Started out, couldn't ride more than five miles without feeling like passing out and now I have done 55 miles in hilly country in 85 degree weather. I have a gut for sure but my legs are stronger and leaner than five years ago. I did weight lift steady between age 20 and 30 plus biked to work 16 miles round trip and martial arts twice weekly back then so I am familiar with excercise. Work and family obligations kept me busy and out of a good excercise routine for ten years so I have no idea at my age what I should weigh but its definately not 265!!! I'd guess that 200 is a manageable weight. I currently ride three to five times weekly for between 10 and 40 miles each day. ( knee troubles, lots of spinning) I am starting a weight routine for the winter and will be buying a recumbent excercise bike in addition to riding outdoors weather permiting. I recently did 40 miles in 3:03 , not sure if thats speedy for a 48 year old/cancer survivor/fat guy riding a 28 pound touring bike but I am trying. Just gotta stop eating so much after riding and remember to stay below by 500 or so cal. a day if I want to make consistant progress.
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I think I'll wind up permaclyde, lets see if we can compute it from my latest measurement:

233lbs, 27% bodyfat (electronic scale)

.27*233 = ~63lbs of fat or 170lbs of the rest of me...now since 27% is almost 30%, and 1/3 of 30% is 10% we could say I'd have about 20lbs of fat at 10%, making me 190. (approximately)

otherwise we say that X is my fat mass at 10%, X/170+X = 0.1 and solve for x. this yields 18.8 lbs.
so either way I'd be 10lbs shy of being a clyde if I JUST lost fat. (sadly I did the algebraic part before the approximation because I just don't trust my ability to approximate)


but knowing that my arms look like spaghetti and I can only bench about 90. (meanwhile I leg-press something ridiculously high, like enough to max out most of those multipurpose weight machines without much strain) I know I've got some muscle mass to gain before I'll be happy.

The catch is if I gain say, 5lbs of muscle that increases my body mass, subsequently increasing the mass of bodyfat that's considered within 10%. somewhere around 8lbs the calculations say I'm both extremely fit and clyde. since I probably won't break 12-15% unless I start eating steam for 2/3 of my meals, I think I can still safely say I'm able to be a fit clyde.
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233lbs, 27% bodyfat (electronic scale)

.27*233 = ~63lbs of fat or 170lbs of the rest of me...now since 27% is almost 30%, and 1/3 of 30% is 10% we could say I'd have about 20lbs of fat at 10%, making me 190. (approximately)

otherwise we say that X is my fat mass at 10%, X/170+X = 0.1 and solve for x. this yields 18.8 lbs.
so either way I'd be 10lbs shy of being a clyde if I JUST lost fat. (sadly I did the algebraic part before the approximation because I just don't trust my ability to approximate)
Body fat % calculations can lead folks to some erroneous conclusions. When we are over weight we build additional skeletal muscle to assist in carrying the extra heft around. That muscle goes away as we lose weight but it is included in the 170 lbs number. About 1/3 of each pound a person loses during weight loss is lean mass (this is an approximation but a pretty good one) Lets day you lose 43 pounds, you will lose 28.4 pounds of fat and 14.2 pounds of lean mass. This would leave you with 155.8 pounds of lean mass and 34.6 pounds of fat your body fat 18% not 10%.

I am certainly not saying your not fit, just trying to help clear up some folks perception of weight loss and body fat %.
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I am 5'8, 240 lbs and roughly 14-15% bodyfat.
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Okay...I was fat, working on being fit. BMI is now 25.5. In June my BMI was 40.

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Fit or fat? Prolly both!...6'1 and 235 lbs of burning love baby! OK, maybe not!

When I train and include climbing, I quickly drop down to 220!

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I'm 6'2" and 250 lbs. Started Triathlons last summer and saw an improvement in body composition. Didn't lose any weight, but definitely gain muscle. If I cut out the beer and other things that taste good out of my diet, I could probably get leaner and faster, but life is too short not to enjoy the best things in life. Plus, for the most part skinny people (on purpose) are a drag to be around.

I alsway say the Clydesdales should challenge the elites to a tackle football game after the race, but no one ever shows up.
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6'5" 230 pounds. I've been running about 20 miles a week and just getting back in to cycling. It seems that short of starving myself, anything under 218 is impossible. Most important at this point is that I feel good. My energy level is usually the best indicator of where my diet and lifestyle are taking me at any given time.
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Well, I'm 6'3 and 225...and I have big shoulders etc. I could use some fat, maybe 10 lbs, but if I went sub-clyde I'd have lots of people trying to get me to eat because I'd look really sick. Haven't wieghed under 200 since i was 16.
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