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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

View Poll Results: What's your approximate body fat in relation to weight?
I'm a clyde only when my BF is over 20% 45 40.18%
I'm a clyde when my BF is a healthy 10-20% 46 41.07%
I'm a clyde when my BF is in race trim (below 10%) 21 18.75%
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Old 09-27-06, 02:42 PM   #1
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Just curious: Are you a fat or fit clyde?

I'm not trying to start any B.S., just get a picture of my clydesdale bretheren.
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I'm a clyde when my BF is a healthy 10-20%
I'm a clyde when my BF is in race trim (below 10%)

I fit both of these categories. It's more like:
I'm a clyde, and my BF is a healthy 10-20%
I'm a still a clyde if I could get my BF down to race trim (below 10%)

At 260 pounds, I'd have to drop 61 pounds to loose my status here. That's about 23% of my total weight. Given my current 18% bodyfat, I'd have to lose another 5% in muscle mass.
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Old 09-27-06, 03:31 PM   #3
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I have a big build right now anyway, I'm trying to get below 200 but I'm not sure I can!
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I have a big build right now anyway, I'm trying to get below 200 but I'm not sure I can!
My doctor actually said that I'd have to lose AT LEAST 50% of my optimal muscle structure to get below 200. Basically I'd be tall, bony, and skinny.

I'd rather settle for the 225-250 where he thinks I will be "a tank" than focusing on a damn number
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Fortunatly I was genetically predisposed with large muscles and bones.
Unfortunatly I was genetically predisposed with large muscles and bones.

The fortunate part, I can push, cary, pull lots of weight. Sprint like a bat out of hell. Burn fat faster and look good when I am down below 12% bf. Also, because of the thickness/density of my bones I have yet to break any, other then my fingers and toes. Lots of brusing and slight fractures but never a break.

Unfortunatly, I can not buy normal pants/shirts (my thighs do not fit, shoulders and chest are to thick), I have had to work my arse off when I was younger to be good at endurance sports, put way to much strain on my frames/wheels and due to having very thick obliques I get huge love handles when over 12%.

Right now I am at 17% bf and tip the scale at 278. The leanest I have ever been was during my boot camp days when the drill instructors were determined to get me below 200lbs. Well that never happend and I ended up graduating BC at 202lbs and 3% body fat.

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Yeah, no choice in your poll for me either...

I'll be a clyde regardless of % body fat.
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Yeah, no choice in your poll for me either...
I'll be a clyde regardless of % body fat.
Choice three for you then.
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Choice three (I'm a clyde when my BF is in race trim (below 10%) for you then.
I assume then you have great faith in the long range success of my diet. Thank you for your vote of confidence...
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Non-fat, half decaf clyde.
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perma-clyde me - but then again being built like an nfl linebacker/rugby prop helps
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I'm 6'7" and 260ish pounds. Former D-I college offensive lineman. I'm always a clyde at any body fat percentage.
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I think I will too unless I lose a lot of muscle mass which I'm not anxious to do.
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If I get below 200 lbs, there is something medically wrong with me. My Dr. said that an optimal weight for me would be about 220 lbs. due to bone and muscle structure.

I've been down to 215 and I was in great shape. Below that point, I look sickly.
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SOOO glad I'm not alone. So much is said about the BMI, and that "magical" 200 number that it makes me want to projectile vomit in the face of weight weenies.

I don't care about the damn number, I just want to be happy! If I find happy to be 300lbs, then so be it. Hell, I was happy at 407, then I decided this summer I wanted to take it to the "next level". And I love biking, and fast bikes. So I've gotta drop some more so I can get that Volpe and Stumpjumper I've been eyeing .

Again GREAT to hear I'm not alone. I hear so many people saying "bull****" when I tell them my optimal is right around 250 that it drives me nuts. Go society! Go BSBMI!
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Can you put me down as "both"? I'm 5'10" and in the high 280's but at this point, I ride 100 miles/week. I'd like to get down to 200 lbs, but if I don't, I'm not exactly worried. I lift more than most of the tykes at the gym, and when the mood strikes me, I'm quite capable of riding at dawn and not returning until dusk. I have a big gut, but I'm still in the 90th percentile in regards to my overall fitness level.
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I'm also a clyde no matter what. I'm 6'-4" and 240. I consider myself 30 pounds overweight right now. At 210 I feel really good/healthy.

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My BMI is 30, which means that according to the experts that created this farce, I'm not just overweight... I'm dangerously obese.

My bodyfat percentage (as determined by 3 measurement caliper technique) is 18%. This puts me in the "healthy" range as determined by the American Dietetic Assoc.

The BMI charts are meant for the average person. Non-bike commuting, non-athlete, doing a small amount of exercise a couple times a week. From what I'm reading, a lot of us here are either working on getting back in top shape after a lapse, or continuing a healthy exercise routine which has involved some heavy strain (weightlifters, military, ruggers, etc.,) in the past so we carry more lean bulk than average. The BMI charts just don't seem to apply for many of us here.
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The BMI charts just don't seem to apply for many of us here.
...or anyone in the real world. One of the fittest people I know was almost refused entry to an elite group on the basis that his bmi wasn't within guidelines - he got in by starving himself and then got best, i.e., fittest, strongest, smartest, student and was an instructor in half the normal time all at his normal "bmi fat" weight
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bmi is inaccurate, skinfold testing is a little more accurate.
the slim guide skinfold calipers are pretty cheap.
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bmi is inaccurate, skinfold testing is a little more accurate.
the slim guide skinfold calipers are pretty cheap.
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I'm perma clyde also. I think the lowest i could get at any bf% is 245. Shoulda went pro football
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I have a scale that claims to tell me bodyfat %age, but I have my doubts about how well it works.

I have been much lighter than I am now, and I would guesstimate that at a healthy bf%age I would be under 200.

I'm 6'3", fluctuate normally between 210 and 212 (down from 220-ish earlier this year), and have weighed as little as 170 in the past (not healthy though, just really emaciated at that point.)

I figure 180 to 185 is a doable, healthy eventual target weight... the scale says 22% bodyfat, but I have a hard time believing it. Never had a skinfold test done or whatnot, so I don't know how to confirm my suspicions.
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I have skinny wrists and ankles- all of my weight is in my torso. I'm 6'3" 250. My ideal weight is about 190, so in theory, I could get out of the clyde category- but why- I get a lot harder workout in less time being a fat guy!
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