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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 11-02-06, 06:09 AM   #1
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Trainers, do you use them and how?

In my quest to regain fitness I am riding my road bike in a cycleops trainer for 30 minutes every other day. I could go much longer and desire to but my butt and pernieum starts hurting after 30 minutes. I don't recall this type of problem when I rode my bike 2 years and 40 pounds ago on the road.

I have raised the handlebars, jacked up the front tire, and added a gel cover and some extra padding to the saddle to cushion the ride. It has helped a bit but still get pain.

Tell me your set up. How long do you ride your trainer? Do you expeirience any of the same issues? How have you solved them?
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Old 11-02-06, 06:35 AM   #2
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generally - more cushioning = more pain on an exponential scale

I do try and stand up more often when using the trainer apart from that I hate the thing so I avoid using it. When I do have to - tunes, tv sport, remember to get out of the saddle regularly and sweat on

anyway enjoy the trainer bwahahahahahahah (evil laugh)
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Old 11-02-06, 06:37 AM   #3
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you need to move around, on a trainer you tend to sit in the same position without moving
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Old 11-02-06, 08:46 AM   #4
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Raising the front wheel is an important first step. I would consider slightly lowering the angle of the front of the saddle.
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Old 11-05-06, 09:39 PM   #5
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I had similar problems with my new trainer. I could only go for about 30 minutes at first, now I can get about an hour. I dropped the nose of the saddle a tad. That put more pressure on the arms which was fine with me. I raised the front wheel 12" so it's like I'm riding uphill all the time, I didn't expect that would help the saddle pain, but it actually did. I alternate between sitting up (hands free), standing up (for just a few seconds), and normal riding position. Mostly I just kept riding and it got better slowly. On the plus side, I don't have a bit of saddle problems on the road anymore. Apparently I'm pretty broken in now :-)
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Riding more will cure the soreness. I do the same as ronjon, alternate from sitting up, to on the hoods and occasionally I will stand. I pass the time by watching www.cycling.tv its a little spendy, but i watch it quite a bit. I enjoy watching races though, but music or a television should help too.
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Old 11-05-06, 10:38 PM   #7
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I would rather do 4 hours on the road than 60 minutes on a trainer for the sole reason that my ass kills on a trainer. there's no position variety.
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When all else fails do what I do when I ride my stationary bike. Ride
for 20 min , off walk a bit , then back on for 20 min more, repeat 'till
you reach your goal. This on/off cycle will allow blood to flow to the
areas that are getting pinched due to being a stationary position.
This method also allows me to leave my bike/trike set up for summer.

Simple , cheap/no cost or hassel at all, and works well for me.

Nothing says that you "have" to do your set all in one stretch, mate.
What's important is that you do it reguarly.
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When all else fails do what I do when I ride my stationary bike. Ride
for 20 min , off walk a bit , then back on for 20 min more, repeat 'till
you reach your goal. This on/off cycle will allow blood to flow to the
areas that are getting pinched due to being a stationary position.
This method also allows me to leave my bike/trike set up for summer.

Simple , cheap/no cost at all, and works well for me.

Nothing says that you "have" to do your set all in one stretch, mate.
What's important is that you do it reguarly.
that's a good idea. even if you just get off the bike for 2 or 3 minutes, it should help.
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I just ride with my 8 yr old Selle Italia Flite saddle and a pair of Pearl Izumi ultrasensor shorts.

Gel pads are bad! Gel saddles are bad too. They feel all mushy and soft at first but even the more expensive saddles can end up pinching you in the long rung.

Do you have a crummy "test ride" saddle that came stock on your bike? If so I'd replace it ASAP. Just head to the LBS and ask to try some different higher end saddles wide enough to support your sit bones. Most shops will let you take them home and try them out for a few days. Specialized dealers have this new sitbone measuring device that is worth checking out.

The next thing is to make sure you're riding with some decent cycling shorts. You don't want any seams grinding away at your privates.

Try to force some of your weight forward onto your arms. If you have drop bars, shift your riding position every five minutes or so. Make sure that you get off the saddle every fifteen to tweny minutes while on the trainer. It helps more than you think.
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Old 11-06-06, 04:50 PM   #11
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I would rather do 4 hours on the road than 60 minutes on a trainer for the sole reason that my ass kills on a trainer. there's no position variety.

Me too but I'm a cold weather wimp. Today was nice (60F) and I rode outdoors with no saddle issues. Supposed to be that way all week!
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Thanks for all the advice and "how you do it".

I bought a gel filled saddle cover and put it on the narrow, hard, "racing saddle' that came with the bike. It felt better at first but I qucikly discarded it.

I have been standing much more frequently and that does help. I am going to go to LBS for a saddle fit.

Today I rode outside on a different bike and it was awesome!
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I read a cool idea. Every commercial for the length of the commercials is an out of the saddle sprint!

(I find I don't have as significant discomfort issues with the rollers.)
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I read a cool idea. Every commercial for the length of the commercials is an out of the saddle sprint!

(I find I don't have as significant discomfort issues with the rollers.)
prime time viewing that's a 5min sprint every 10 minutes - woohoo! bring back the NCL
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prime time viewing that's a 5min sprint every 10 minutes - woohoo! bring back the NCL
yep! there are so many commericals in prime time. you'd barely have enough time to let your heart rate return before the next one.
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prime time viewing that's a 5min sprint every 10 minutes - woohoo! bring back the NCL
Oh...my...God...! I actually know what NCL is! What's worse is I actually saw part of a "race" on TV once. Am I really this lame? I'm so ashamed. I'm going to crawl into a corner and try to hide.
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Oh...my...God...! I actually know what NCL is! What's worse is I actually saw part of a "race" on TV once. Am I really this lame? I'm so ashamed. I'm going to crawl into a corner and try to hide.
roflmao - you and me both - although I just know about from reading magazine articles on it - couldn't help noticing that, inspite of the racing, there were almost no spectators.
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I ride mine from about 30-60 mins at a time. On the road, I can ride for hours with no butt pain... but for some reason my toosh hurts when I ride my trainer... so you arent alone.
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I ride mine from about 30-60 mins at a time. On the road, I can ride for hours with no butt pain... but for some reason my toosh hurts when I ride my trainer... so you arent alone.
Part of the reason is that most likely, you are staying in the saddle without standing the pedals. Analyze thew trainer riding vs "live" riding and see if I'm right!
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