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rokphotography 12-31-06 04:13 AM

Old Road bike...
 
hey guys, this is my first post here so bare with me.
i've wanted to get a road bike for a while now, since my last MB got stolen. so i bit my tongue and found a good deal for a 58cm 80's beat Concorso road bike with a decent condition frame (no dents but moderate rust). i rode it for the first time and the bike needs some work. all the gears have a good amount of rust (luckily no sprockets broke or bent) and most of the components have mild to moderate rust on them.

my question is what do i need to replace.. im eventually going to strip the bike down and start from ground zero by sanding, sealing and painting the bike up so the rust doesnt continues spreading. apart from that i'm lost. i've lurked around for a bit and no a little bit about what i need. but i def need new wheels/tires/hubs, brake levers, pedals, seat post, saddle, handels and tape. thanx for reading the long post!

oh and just so you know for wheel and strength of component purposes i'm about 6'4"ish with a 32 inseam so a 58cm fits pretty well, around 260-280..
i used to ride a little bit back when i started high school, about 5 miles a day 3 days out of the week.. but its been 6 years since i've got back on a bike..
THANX AGAIN FOR HELPING IN ADVANCE!

Tom Stormcrowe 12-31-06 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rokphotography
hey guys, this is my first post here so bare with me.
i've wanted to get a road bike for a while now, since my last MB got stolen. so i bit my tongue and found a good deal for a 58cm 80's beat Concorso road bike with a decent condition frame (no dents but moderate rust). i rode it for the first time and the bike needs some work. all the gears have a good amount of rust (luckily no sprockets broke or bent) and most of the components have mild to moderate rust on them.

my question is what do i need to replace.. im eventually going to strip the bike down and start from ground zero by sanding, sealing and painting the bike up so the rust doesnt continues spreading. apart from that i'm lost. i've lurked around for a bit and no a little bit about what i need. but i def need new wheels/tires/hubs, brake levers, pedals, seat post, saddle, handels and tape. thanx for reading the long post!

oh and just so you know for wheel and strength of component purposes i'm about 6'4"ish with a 32 inseam so a 58cm fits pretty well, around 260-280..
i used to ride a little bit back when i started high school, about 5 miles a day 3 days out of the week.. but its been 6 years since i've got back on a bike..
THANX AGAIN FOR HELPING IN ADVANCE!

Wheels and hubs, Ebay! I'm presuming it has freewheel instead of a cassette. Probably 126mm spacing on the rear hub, but measure it to be sure. Does it have 27" or 700c wheels?

Tape is easy, any bike shop
Saddle, go with leather....and a pair of padded shorts. Get the saddle height right of course.

Are you sure you need brake levers, or do you need just cables?

As to the wheels you get, 32-36 spoke wheels will do fine. I'm running a 40nmspoke wheel on the back and 36 on the front, but my primary ride is a straight up touring bike.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o...reenway005.jpg

Post a picture of the bike so I can have a better idea of what you will need.

As to the rust, sand and priume with Rustoleum rust inhibitive primer. It'll stop the rust dead in it's tracks.

A fellow Clyde, Air is currently restoring a Nishiki road bike, and I also love vintage steel. Another source of info and hard to find parts id the Classic and Vintage forum. Those guys are a bunch of cranky old retrogrouches like me, and a pretty good bunch of guys!:D

rokphotography 12-31-06 04:36 AM

Thanx so much Tom! ill take pictures probably by tommorow as seeing its pretty late.. and the rear brake lever is basically useless i have an easier time pulling the cable manually then clenching the lever.
but i'll keep the progress updated! thanx again
-eric

Tom Stormcrowe 12-31-06 04:49 AM

No problem, rok! I was up anyhoo and trashing on the forums, so why not!

Wino Ryder 12-31-06 01:53 PM

Nice looking bike, Tom.

Tom Stormcrowe 12-31-06 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Wino Ryder
Nice looking bike, Tom.

Thanks, it was a fortuitous find! Rides like a dream, by the way!:D

roccobike 12-31-06 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rokphotography
i've lurked around for a bit and no a little bit about what i need. but i def need new wheels/tires/hubs, brake levers, pedals, seat post, saddle, handels and tape. thanx for reading the long post!

Are you sure you need to replace all that? Reason I ask is, by the time you pay for it all, you could probably buy a low end roadie or road/hybrid with brifters.
But if you are set on upgrading the bike you purchased, you might want to consider a donor bike. Something off of Craigslist (to save on shipping) or a yard sale bike that has most of what you want for your bike. I've found it's a cheap way to upgrade my old road bikes. Then I sell the frame and recover some of my costs.
BTW, you need to add cables and brake pads to your list of things to buy.
Good luck with your bike.

rokphotography 12-31-06 07:22 PM

well here are the pictures.. sorry a little bad on the quality and noise issue.. but my p&s cam is nothing to my dslr

The Bike: Concorso GT
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/945/bikebq8.jpg

Cranks: Touring?? Generic??
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/32/crankwy6.jpg
Dual brake levers= Dia Commpe
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/5...eleversyy5.jpg
Front Derailler = Falcon??
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/364...raillerwl5.jpg
Rear Dearailler= Schwinn
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/3...raillerfu6.jpg
i think the front brake needs the most work tho...
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/7...tbrake2zn0.jpg

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8...ntbrakevl2.jpg

Suntour thumbies
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1...humbiesfu3.jpg
and most the wheels and tires are in this condition
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/4851/tiresew0.jpg

and the gears aren't that bad at all. i guess after i rode it last night its not so bad now..
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/5066/reargearxg7.jpg

rokphotography 12-31-06 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roccobike
Are you sure you need to replace all that? Reason I ask is, by the time you pay for it all, you could probably buy a low end roadie or road/hybrid with brifters.
But if you are set on upgrading the bike you purchased, you might want to consider a donor bike. Something off of Craigslist (to save on shipping) or a yard sale bike that has most of what you want for your bike. I've found it's a cheap way to upgrade my old road bikes. Then I sell the frame and recover some of my costs.
BTW, you need to add cables and brake pads to your list of things to buy.
Good luck with your bike.

yeah i think im not going to replace everything yet... probably the brakes, cables, tubes, and maybe the wheels for now.. then add peice by peice..
i only bought the bike because it was cheap and tall.. and it was only 80 bucks.. i plan to invest more time than money on this one though so as i ride more the better parts i can tack on as i get the money too

(51) 12-31-06 07:35 PM

I'd change the rubber, check the spokes, lube it up, and ride. That's not too bad

rokphotography 12-31-06 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (51)
I'd change the rubber, check the spokes, lube it up, and ride. That's not too bad

cool i'll probably get the rims true'd and some new rubber at the same time.. im just worried about all that rust.. thats why i wanna strip down and clean most of the bike first

rokphotography 01-01-07 03:54 AM

so i decided today.. after a couple of hours of disassembly, hand sanding, and just plain mess.. that i'm going to have the bike bead blasted and powdercoated flat black...

Tom Stormcrowe 01-01-07 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by (51)
I'd change the rubber, check the spokes, lube it up, and ride. That's not too bad

Yep, those are 27"X1 1/4, by the way and if you are on a budget for tires, Walmart has some fairly decent bell tires.:D Calipers can be cleaned up, and put new pads on them as well as cables. :D

Tip the nose of that saddle to where it's level, as it sits right now, you'll have some pain riding any distance.:eek:

The bikes not in that bad of shape!

Tom Stormcrowe 01-01-07 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (51)
I'd change the rubber, check the spokes, lube it up, and ride. That's not too bad

Yep, those are 27"X1 1/4, by the way and if you are on a budget for tires, Walmart has some fairly decent bell tires.:D Calipers can be cleaned up, and put new pads on them as well as cables. :D

Tip the nose of that saddle to where it's level, as it sits right now, you'll have some pain riding any distance.:eek:

The bikes not in that bad of shape!

ScrubJ 01-01-07 02:10 PM

Your bike is extremely dangerous dangerous, you must ship it to me for proper disposal:D

I'd probably follow (51)'s suggestions and have fun.

Edited to add.... I'd toss (into a parts bin) the suicide brake levers.

rokphotography 01-01-07 10:49 PM

yeah i actually bought a used cinelli stem/drop set today for $20 bucks.. what a steal.. but im getting rid of the suicide levers for sure..one of them isnt functioning anyway. there's just a stubborn screw stuck on it i have to get off.. or just scrap around the used parts bins for a nice set of of used levers for cheap.

i dissasembled the whole bike last night accept for the crank and bb.. im gonna either borrow or get a crank extraction tool and see if my lbs can help me take that bb off before i drop it off to the powdercoaters for the flat black and ?? paint.

thanx again guys ill post pix later of the drops and of the frame when i get it back from the powdercoaters!

rokphotography 01-01-07 10:52 PM

oh and tom.. the seat was uncomfortable.. unfortunately when i rode i forgot ANY tools so i sucked up and rode with my assets in pain

rokphotography 01-02-07 03:14 AM

anybody know how about i would go if i wanted to buy a set of 700c wheels, how i would convert? would i need to buy a new set of calipers then of course wheels, tubes, tires? thanx in advance again

oh and its just a thought for an upgrade up the road..

Tom Stormcrowe 01-02-07 07:09 AM

If your ca;opers have enough reach, you won't have to change anything as far as the brakes go. There will be s[ppacing issues though, on the rear stays. You'll have to have the frame cold set to accept a wider rear hub.....or have a 126mm rear wheel custom laced.

Wogster 01-02-07 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rokphotography
hey guys, this is my first post here so bare with me.
i've wanted to get a road bike for a while now, since my last MB got stolen. so i bit my tongue and found a good deal for a 58cm 80's beat Concorso road bike with a decent condition frame (no dents but moderate rust). i rode it for the first time and the bike needs some work. all the gears have a good amount of rust (luckily no sprockets broke or bent) and most of the components have mild to moderate rust on them.

my question is what do i need to replace.. im eventually going to strip the bike down and start from ground zero by sanding, sealing and painting the bike up so the rust doesnt continues spreading. apart from that i'm lost. i've lurked around for a bit and no a little bit about what i need. but i def need new wheels/tires/hubs, brake levers, pedals, seat post, saddle, handels and tape. thanx for reading the long post!

oh and just so you know for wheel and strength of component purposes i'm about 6'4"ish with a 32 inseam so a 58cm fits pretty well, around 260-280..
i used to ride a little bit back when i started high school, about 5 miles a day 3 days out of the week.. but its been 6 years since i've got back on a bike..
THANX AGAIN FOR HELPING IN ADVANCE!

Strip it down, some parts like cogs and chain rings just need a good bath in degreaser, and then a light weight oil. If rims or spokes have rust, then replace, you want stainless steel spokes, and aluminum rims, replace cables, brake pads, tires, tubes, cables and tape. Most other stuff just needs a good cleaning, if the seat is ripped or worn through, then replace.

Now, if it's work where your own skills can do most of the labour, go for it, if your going to need a shop to do most of the work, then it will not take much to eat up the price of a used bike at a shop, or even a new one.

rokphotography 01-03-07 11:19 PM

so.. the powdercoaters got the frame back to me pronto, and may i say,it looks gorgeous!! i went to my local lbs to get a new headset because my old one had broken bearings, and even they said the frame looked f'ing great.

so i await for friday to come until i can assemble the beast together again..

i've been doing some cleaning and degreasing and found out that the bike may be an early 80's huffy with suntour and schwinn components. also the brakes are dia compe as well as the levers. the screws for the levers were pretty ****ty so i left it up to the engineer, my dad, of the family to get them off.. and i like them waaayyyy better on the bars without the suicide levers!

pix and updates to come after friday!

rokphotography 01-04-07 12:44 AM

p.s. i located an extra set of suntour stem shifters, the same dia compe brake levers, and rear center brake, and suntour deraillers to match for a steal on craigslist. now i have back ups and a matching rear derailler..sweet!

rokphotography 01-06-07 08:12 PM

just got back from the lbs and the bike is done! all i gotta do now is put some bar grip on and ride! woot

Air 01-06-07 09:57 PM

Sweet dude, congrats!

rokphotography 01-08-07 07:22 PM

NOOOOO the rear axle inside the rear hub BROKE.. rode it for 8 miles yesterday. noticed a squeeking so i had a friend drop me off closer to home and rode 1/4 mile home.. the rear wheel was rubbing on the frame so i adjusted the skewer.. got home to repack the rear hubs (i havent done.. i dont think it has been done since factory..) took off the skewer and the the axle is torn at one of the threadS!! someone help! do i need to buy a new axle??? that means new cassette?? that means new derailler?? that means me sad and broke...


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