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    Clydesdale observation...

    Forgive me for I am not a 'true' clydesdale. I'm 92 kilo's - so a bees dick over 200lbs, but my bodyfat is low so technically I don't count.

    BUT, I find it interesting that being a Clydesdale is a 'segment' of riders who embrace what and who they are - Larger riders. But conversely are trying to leave this demographic. There's a lot of talk of weight loss. The very thing that would dump you from the Clydesdale category.

    I can't think of any other cycling group that embrace their 'demographic' but are actively trying to leave it.

    Just an interesting thought.
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    Scrap all that She@t. EVERY rider wants to get faster and so EVERY rider want to leave thier 'category'. Don't you just love it when you prove your own theory wrong??!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mezza
    Forgive me for I am not a 'true' clydesdale. I'm 92 kilo's - so a bees dick over 200lbs, but my bodyfat is low so technically I don't count.

    BUT, I find it interesting that being a Clydesdale is a 'segment' of riders who embrace what and who they are - Larger riders. But conversely are trying to leave this demographic. There's a lot of talk of weight loss. The very thing that would dump you from the Clydesdale category.

    I can't think of any other cycling group that embrace their 'demographic' but are actively trying to leave it.

    Just an interesting thought.
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    Hell - I'm not leaving this place! I wouldn't like myself if I dropped below 200 - I have a super strong frame and a lot of muscle on top. Just don't want to get jiggy wid it anymore

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    We're trying to attain Clyde Emeritus Status! A lot of us are or were uberclydes and I was an Uberuberuberclyde, once upon a time.
    Most of us are trying to live longer......
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    Even if you're a big beefcake over 200#, Clydesdale still applies because you will need a fundamentally different equipment set then the little guys. Clydes shred MTB parts. When you replace those parts, you must do so carefully as the "standard stuff" simply is not designed for big, strong people.

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    I'm Clyde for life. Under 200 pounds would not even be a safe body weight for me. Besides, "Clyde" sounds better than "Big and Tall", "Big Boned" or "Portly"
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    Quote Originally Posted by mezza
    Forgive me for I am not a 'true' clydesdale. I'm 92 kilo's - so a bees dick over 200lbs, but my bodyfat is low so technically I don't count.
    If I had absolutley no body fat (0%) I would still weigh 210lbs. Being a clyde isn't about bodyfat. It's about weight. So, technically, you do count. Since you are over 200, you need to embrace your clyde status, and not try to get out of it on a perceived technicality. Join us, brother!

    And it's specific to cycling (at least here) because our body weight gives us a disadvantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mezza
    Forgive me for I am not a 'true' clydesdale. I'm 92 kilo's - so a bees dick over 200lbs, but my bodyfat is low so technically I don't count.

    BUT, I find it interesting that being a Clydesdale is a 'segment' of riders who embrace what and who they are - Larger riders. But conversely are trying to leave this demographic. There's a lot of talk of weight loss. The very thing that would dump you from the Clydesdale category.

    I can't think of any other cycling group that embrace their 'demographic' but are actively trying to leave it.

    Just an interesting thought.
    I hate to tell you this, but if you're over 200lbs, you're a clyde. No matter what your body fat % is. 200.01 is a clyde. Clyde's aren't just relegated to cycling either, I know quite a few running clydes & athenas.

    Now, you might not feel like a clyde because you're more muscle and bone than fat, and I can appreciate the sentiment. But you still have to lug more weight around than the stick boys.

    BTW - think of this as a support group for people who are trying to get themselves in better shape.

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    ps - I'm now a clyde emeritus, weight was 195 this morning. I think the 230 miles I rode last week counter balanced the holiday cheer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkadam68
    And it's specific to cycling (at least here) because our body weight gives us a disadvantage.
    ...or advantage on the downhills

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    Quote Originally Posted by willtsmith_nwi
    ...Clydes shred MTB parts. When you replace those parts, you must do so carefully as the "standard stuff" simply is not designed for big, strong people.
    How interesting - My experience is quite the opposite. I've shredded road-bikes before (particularly low-spoke-count wheels), but I've NEVER been able to damage my entry-level MTB. I ride a Specialized "HardRock" (or whatever their entry-level MTB model is), and it has been completely bullet-proof! In fact, I've put MTB parts onto touring frames before (LOVED my Shimano XTR "Rapid-Rise" derailleur) and had no problems.

    The "standard stuff" on MTBs has been fine for me. What were you able to break, Will?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkadam68
    ...Being a clyde isn't about bodyfat. It's about weight...Since you are over 200, you need to embrace your clyde status...And it's specific to cycling...because our body weight gives us a disadvantage.
    EXCEPT when going DOWNHILL!

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    Yeah - my mtb has held up to some serious abuse and just laughs at me. "COME ON - DROP ME AGAIN! HA! YOU CALL THAT A POTHOLE?!?! WHAT'S MY NAME BIYATCH?!?! LET'S SHOW THAT CABBIE WHO'S BOSS! SLAM ME AGAIN!!"

    On the otherhand I feel like I have to apologize to my roadbike even for short trips around the block. "I'm sorry, I know you weren't supposed to hold this much. I'm trying ya know, I really am. I'm losing this weight for you honey!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Air
    ...or advantage on the downhills
    Quite right. I love absolutely flying by the smaller riders on downhills. Coasting, no less.

    (Of course, I have to stay somewhat close on the uphills.

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    Another Clyde Emeritus here, they had to retire my jersey because it won't fit anymore...

    Yep, a clydedale isn't about fat, it is about weight. Think about it, a Clydesdale (the horse) isn't because it is out of shape, is because they are HUGE.

    We have our own group so we don't make the scrawnies jealous. In all, I have dropped 75 lbs over the years, I have no issue climbing hills and drop nearly everyone. It is all about power to weight ratio. Technique is important too.

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    I'm 6'2" tall and the insurance companies say I should be below 200. I'm over 300 now. When I was in my early thirties I was in the 220s and I know I still had a little to go.

    My target is 210-220. It will be 2008 before I realize that but I can weight. (pun intended.)

    I don't have any expectation of getting below 200 but if it happens, I'm cool with it.
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    I have to agree on the overall weight being the factor as to why we are clydes. I am 6'5 with a fairly stalky build when in my fighting weight of about 220. I can't ever see myself going below 200.
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    I like the fact that people are supportive in this group versus some of the cut throats in the Road Group Threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaxgtr
    I like the fact that people are supportive in this group versus some of the cut throats in the Road Group Threads.
    ^ +1!

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    I'm a Clyde YoYo. This time last year, I was a Clyde. Earned my Emeritus status in May, lost it before Thanksgiving. It's like going to Prom and constantly going out to the parking lot and back. Good times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaxgtr
    I like the fact that people are supportive in this group versus some of the cut throats in the Road Group Threads.
    +2
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaxgtr
    I like the fact that people are supportive in this group versus some of the cut throats in the Road Group Threads.
    A lot of people in this group were teased mercilessly as children.

    Some of us were teased mercilessly, and then sent to the principal's office after we fought back with all 155 pounds

    Tom, I think the most awesome thing about your pictures is the missing oxy tank on the second one.

    I second the heavy people shredding MTB parts. If you aren't, you just aren't riding hard enough (or maybe you don't crash enough ) I rock a lot of downhill parts on my XC rig after replacing broken parts.
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    Maybe your obs aren't correct for everyone. I'm at aobut 235-240 right now. I'm out of shpae but did just fine with a group from the forums last week. 62 miles with 6600ft of climbing. Done centuries with10,000 ft climbing no problem in shape. I drop to 220 with all the hard work, but never is my goal to get under 200lbs...Won't ever happen anyway, only the fitness level improves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz
    Maybe your obs aren't correct for everyone. I'm at aobut 235-240 right now. I'm out of shpae but did just fine with a group from the forums last week. 62 miles with 6600ft of climbing. Done centuries with10,000 ft climbing no problem in shape. I drop to 220 with all the hard work, but never is my goal to get under 200lbs...Won't ever happen anyway, only the fitness level improves.
    Well, your goals are your goals! None of us have any problem with that at all! A lot of us will NEVER see the downside of 250! What matters is that we are riding and improving our health and extending our lives in the process. All of us have different goals, believe me. Mine is to hit Emeritus status and be below 200. As to others, I only want to see them achieve their personal goal as well and I'll provide whatever support and encouragement I can along the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe
    I only want to see them achieve their personal goal as well and I'll provide whatever support and encouragement I can along the way.
    You my friend, are the most positive, encouraging person I have met in a long time.

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