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Ktmartin 02-19-07 06:37 PM

Clyde friendly supplements
 
I just finished reading Mike Magnuson's book "Heft on Wheels", it was a page turner, finished it in one long car ride. Anyways, he said he lost his weight at first by basically starving himself on 3, 550 calorie protein shakes a day (he later agreed that was not the best way). He also says he took some recovery supplements. My question is if my goal is to lose weight while improving my cycling as a whole should I take any kind of supplements that won't slow down my weight loss?

late 02-19-07 07:00 PM

Hi,
first, if you can find the original article 'Don't try this at home' in Bicycling.... that
is worth a read. The book was essentially constructed around the article, I like the article better.

Your question can't be taken out of the context of who you are and what you're doing. I think you should be taking a multivitamin, I take a one a day. Not the brand, acutally the brand is one of those super natural ones. If you are training often, a post-exercise recovery drink is a good idea. I accidentally made my own,
so I can't help you there.Actually, I tried to design my own post exercise drink, and goofed, and mixed it with some Nature's Plus shake and that seems to work.
I bring the powder with me, and dump it into a half empty water bottle so I can take it the second I stop. Personally, I don't use it often enough. It does seem to help, but I am not a big fan of eating right after exercise.

In most supermarkets they sell tuna dinners where they sell canned tunafish.
These are small 4 ounce portions of cooked tuna and seasonings. I have 4 or 5 waiting for me to get the gumption to start a diet. Small portions are key.

So are a lot of fresh fruits and veggies.

But what does it for me is daily exercise, when I commute by bicycle in the summer my weight drops and I get big improvements in fitness. I find myself eating better when I do that as well.

yeamac 02-19-07 09:15 PM

Most overweight people are overweight because they consume much more food than their body needs. So, to loose weight, all you need to do is start consuming less food that your body needs. So eat healthy, balanced meals to get the nutrients you need, and just cut out the fat and empty calories from donuts, cookies, chips, ice cream, etc, etc. Eat moderate portion sizes. No matter how good it tastes, don't take seconds. When you go out to eat, you probably should take half of your meal home, or (like my wife and I often do) split the meal with someone else. You won't need supplements and you'll loose weight. I've been doing this and have been loosing 2-3 pounds every week.

G60 02-19-07 10:17 PM

your diet dictates your success. diet doesnt mean "eating less", diet sometimes means eating more. but its eating the RIGHT foods.

my recovery drink for cycling, hockey, tennis, the gym is Chocolate milk :D

Velo Dog 02-20-07 11:10 AM

The search for a diet miracle continues...
There aren't any secrets here, and there are no miracles. Barring some bizarre metabolic quirk, which you'd certainly already know about, you gain weight because you stuff more calories into your face than you burn in exercise (I'm not dissing you--I've done the same thing most of my adult life). The ONLY way to lose weight, other than liposuction, is to reverse that process, and the only way to keep the weight off is to do it the rest of your life. When you "go on a diet" you lose weight, and when you go OFF the diet, you gain it back. People do that constantly, and then complain that the diet didn't work.
There are some good computer programs that help you track what you eat and what you burn. One of them is BalanceLog, which I've used to take off nearly 40 pounds, but I don't think that's available anymore. I've heard of one called Diet Pro that's supposedly similar.
You can do the same thing with a little notebook--write down EVERYTHING you eat for a couple of days, and balance it against a realistic estimate of the calories you use. You'll be amazed. One Quarter Pounder from McDonald's (430 calories) takes me 45 minutes of brisk riding to work off. A handful of M&Ms from the secretary's desk cancels out 20 minutes on the bike. I like to ride, and I look forward to it, but I think twice about having that second piece of pie when I consider what it means.

ronjon10 02-20-07 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Velo Dog
There are some good computer programs that help you track what you eat and what you burn. One of them is BalanceLog, which I've used to take off nearly 40 pounds, but I don't think that's available anymore. I've heard of one called Diet Pro that's supposedly similar.
You can do the same thing with a little notebook--write down EVERYTHING you eat for a couple of days, and balance it against a realistic estimate of the calories you use. You'll be amazed. One Quarter Pounder from McDonald's (430 calories) takes me 45 minutes of brisk riding to work off. A handful of M&Ms from the secretary's desk cancels out 20 minutes on the bike. I like to ride, and I look forward to it, but I think twice about having that second piece of pie when I consider what it means.

+ infinity on logging what you eat.

Be diligent for a couple of weeks, and you'll be able to guesstimate calorie intake pretty well. I keep a log, but stopped weighing the portions etc, and just guesstimate. It really works well to help you limit your intake.

Here's the big surprise for me though. It really works well in taking away the guilt. Say you do grab a handful of MnM's from the secretarys desk. You know the cost of it, it's right there in the log. It also frees you to eat more. There are sometimes at night when I'm feeling hungry, I can check the log and see where I am in the day in terms of intake vs expenditure. Most often, I'm hundreds of calories short, so I go ahead and have an orange or two. No problem, no guilt.

Ktmartin 02-20-07 03:06 PM

I know how to lose the weight, I have lost 80 lbs before (255-175), I was just wondering if I take protien shakes or a recovery drink after my ride/weightlifting will the calories and nutrients in them prohibit weight loss. Basically some after workout shakes are meant to put weight on skinny people, but I feel like my cycling performance would benefit from a recovery drink of some sort. Thanks for the input thus far, oh and now I'm back close to 240's again after slimming down 3-4 years ago, but hopefully my alcohol consumption changes alone will help get me back down. Thanks again.


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