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mattyknacks 03-30-07 10:52 AM

Thoughts on my updated bike...
 
So now I have put a few miles on my bike since changing a couple of things and I am quite happy with it. It goes faster now and is easier to pedal, but slightly less comfortable because I am leaning over more. Some of the changes are:

From MTB wheels to 700x32c wheels on Velocity Deep-V rims (36 spokes)
From riser handlebars to almost flat handlebars
Added a computer that has a cadence reading
Removed a few spacers from under the stem

I have to get used to this new riding position of being bent over more. As I lose more of my gut, I will remove even more spacers and add drop bars.

After hitting a few good sized potholes, I have determined that these rims are stronger then the machine-built mountain bike wheels that they replaced! I cannot believe it, but it's true. I don't really care for the rougher ride, but the faster speeds and easier peddling more then make up for it.

For the first time in my life, I am peddling at a faster and consistant cadence. I was always a masher. It seems that I can ride farther now.

I am learning to ride a bike all over again! Go figure.

The before and after bike pics are at the link below.

Matty in Brooklyn

obelix67 03-30-07 12:23 PM

Looks good mate, as long as you are happy eh :)

Tom Stormcrowe 03-30-07 12:30 PM

Also, as you learn to support more of the weight with your legs and use the saddle more for a balancing reference, the ride will smooth out. That's what Hambone and I have been referring to as "riding light".

EDIT: Don't ya love the feel of that road bike in glide mode?;) :D

(51) 03-30-07 01:04 PM

I like the stem. I need to get a longer/taller one. What brand is it?

andymac 03-30-07 02:57 PM

I second the notion of the ride smoothing out after you lighten up on the saddle. That will probably not happen until your bars move down though as their current height will be forcing you into a pretty upright position and put a lot of your weight back on the saddle.
As you move the bars down do it in gradual steps over an extended period as some of the issues associated with having the bars very low only become apparent over a lot of riding and can take a long time to recover from. I have never had anything physically preventing me from riding bent over so I experimented with various stems and bars on my two flat bar commuter bikes and found that the bars being 2 or 3 inches below the saddle is what works for me. More than that and too much weight was on my hands and I started to get tendonitis in my elbows, higher than that too much weight was on the saddle and my butt would be numb an hour into my ride.

Mr. Beanz 03-30-07 03:58 PM

Nice rig dude! I use Velocity Deep V's on all my ride including my tandem. I preach these to curious clydes but they always seem to end up wanting a 20 spoke lite fast wheel cause they think they are faster. Glad someone else sees the lite!:D

Curious as your dimensions. I'm 6'1 and 230. I ride mainly roadies and have no problems staying in the drops for long periods. Only bring this up cause I don't think it's a matter of losing the gut, but more flexibilty. I'm no small waisted bean pole, but have no problems. At first it's a lil tough, but the more you do it, the better it gets.

Also, not sure how much room you have on the straightbar grips,but I added barends onto my mtb. Adds a couple more hand postions to the set up! I have large hands and thought I'd miss the small space that the bar ends take, but I actually find myself doing most of my time on the barends. That's on mtb though. Not sure how it would affect commuting, but just a thought.:D

mattyknacks 03-30-07 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (51)
I like the stem. I need to get a longer/taller one. What brand is it?

It's actually a generic stem attached to a Satori threadless headset extender.

Matty in Brooklyn

mattyknacks 03-30-07 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andymac
I second the notion of the ride smoothing out after you lighten up on the saddle. That will probably not happen until your bars move down though as their current height will be forcing you into a pretty upright position and put a lot of your weight back on the saddle.

Well that sucks! I already feel in in my wrists as my weight forces me to put alot of pressure on the bars. I imagine that the lower I go with the bar, the more pressure I will exert on the handlebars.

Matty in Brooklyn

mattyknacks 03-30-07 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz
Nice rig dude! I use Velocity Deep V's on all my ride including my tandem. I preach these to curious clydes but they always seem to end up wanting a 20 spoke lite fast wheel cause they think they are faster. Glad someone else sees the lite!:D

You did preach to me about it months ago, and I did go against you and bought some 24 spoke wheels, but since then, I saw the error of my ways and took your advice. It was your post months ago that led me to the deep-v's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz
Curious as your dimensions. I'm 6'1 and 230. I ride mainly roadies and have no problems staying in the drops for long periods. Only bring this up cause I don't think it's a matter of losing the gut, but more flexibilty. I'm no small waisted bean pole, but have no problems. At first it's a lil tough, but the more you do it, the better it gets.

I am 6'0" and 307 pounds (down from 360+) and that is a bit bigger than you. That is why I had those crazy riser bars on the bike in addition to the other extension gadgets.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz
Also, not sure how much room you have on the straightbar grips,but I added barends onto my mtb. Adds a couple more hand postions to the set up! I have large hands and thought I'd miss the small space that the bar ends take, but I actually find myself doing most of my time on the barends. That's on mtb though. Not sure how it would affect commuting, but just a thought.:D

Good idea, I have plenty of room. I was looking to see if they made a bar end that was shaped like the drop portion of a drop bar. Anyone know if this item exists??

Matty in Brooklyn

BTW, this is a mountain bike (converted) and since it has disc brakes, it takes about 60 seconds to put the mountain wheelset back on.

jaxgtr 03-30-07 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (51)
I like the stem. I need to get a longer/taller one. What brand is it?

That is very close to the one I have, just not as tall. Mine is from Profile Design the BOA model.

jaxgtr 03-30-07 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattyknacks
Well that sucks! I already feel in in my wrists as my weight forces me to put alot of pressure on the bars. I imagine that the lower I go with the bar, the more pressure I will exert on the handlebars.

Matty in Brooklyn

Try moving you seat a little more forward. When I replaced my fork and got the new stem setup, I had to shift the seat forward to adjust the new positioning of the handle bars. Since then I don't have any wrist or hand issues. It took a couple of miles to really dial it in. Take a multi tool with you on your ride and adjust ever 5 miles or so until it feels comfortable.

Mr. Beanz 03-30-07 10:35 PM

Cool Matty! Now get out there and kick some AZZ!:D

mattyknacks 03-31-07 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz
Cool Matty! Now get out there and kick some AZZ!:D

Mr Beanz, what is the largest tire size you use on your Deep-V rims? I have 700x32c Specialized Armadillos right now. I was thinking of getting another wheelset built up with Velocity Dyad rims, so that I can use 700x35c or 38c tires. Then maybe I will experiment with thinner Armadillos on the Deep-V's.

Thoughts, anyone???

Matty in Brooklyn

Halthane 03-31-07 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxgtr
Try moving you seat a little more forward. When I replaced my fork and got the new stem setup, I had to shift the seat forward to adjust the new positioning of the handle bars. Since then I don't have any wrist or hand issues. It took a couple of miles to really dial it in. Take a multi tool with you on your ride and adjust ever 5 miles or so until it feels comfortable.

Try Checking Out http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fitting.htm For some discussion on moving the seat around to help with balancing your weight between seat and arms and saddles etc. Really helped me with setting up my road bike.

Paul

Soonerinfrisco 04-01-07 06:03 PM

Well Matty,

The good news is that it is more about burning calories and being happy doing it than going fast. If you are looking for more comfort, you could get a fitting at a LBS, probably $50 or so. As for your wrists taking the brunt, you are running a straight bar which limits the hand placement options as someone suggested. I figure I have 4 good hand placement options on my road bar.

I'd say if you are happy and seeing results, keep on truckin!

BTW who makes that frame? Usually difficult to find a frame that handles 26inch and 700cc wheels.

It looks pretty spiffy.

Retem 04-01-07 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz
Nice rig dude! I use Velocity Deep V's on all my ride including my tandem. I preach these to curious clydes but they always seem to end up wanting a 20 spoke lite fast wheel cause they think they are faster. Glad someone else sees the lite!:D

I haven't had a 36h mavic fail me yet my new ride has a 20/24h combo on it and they are super stiff and sturdy 6'4" 220lbs can't go wrong with a quality handbuilt wheel

mattyknacks 04-02-07 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soonerinfrisco
BTW who makes that frame? Usually difficult to find a frame that handles 26inch and 700cc wheels..

The frame was bought at a place called NYCBikes in Brooklyn NY. They get their frames from several suppliers, and I believe this one is from Kinesis. It is also my understanding that 700x35c will fit most mountain bike frames, but the brakes are a problem since they don't line up correctly (unless you have disc brakes).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soonerinfrisco
It looks pretty spiffy.

Thank you. I was trying for a look similar to those "urban street" bikes, like the Cannondale Bad Boy and the Trek FX disc, among others.

Matty in Brooklyn

andymac 04-02-07 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattyknacks
Well that sucks! I already feel in in my wrists as my weight forces me to put alot of pressure on the bars. I imagine that the lower I go with the bar, the more pressure I will exert on the handlebars.

Matty in Brooklyn

You may not have the same experience as I did as we are certainly not the same sort of build.
I did find by lengthening the bike out a bit I was able to get myself down without causing a lot of discomfort, I did this by going to a low rise longer stem. You may want to consider what impact your current set up is having on the effective top tube of the bike. By using the stem riser with the riser stem and spacers to raise your bars up as high as they are you are shortening the effective top tube of the bike. As the headtube angles back, when you go up you also go back. If you follow the suggestion to move your seat forward you will shorten the effective top tube that much more. As the top tub shortens your body has to do something to fit into this reduced space, most of these things will decrease your comfort.
I tried the riser stem and spacers route with a frame that was too small for me for about 6 months. I loved the way the frame handled and tried all sort of things to make it fit me but eventually concluded that there was no way to make it work.

bdinger 04-02-07 11:47 AM

'tis a beauty.. good work! I really like the look of it, it's the "stealth" look that my MTB also has. Looks like you could jump it off a bridge :D

mattyknacks 04-03-07 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halthane
Try Checking Out http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fitting.htm For some discussion on moving the seat around to help with balancing your weight between seat and arms and saddles etc. Really helped me with setting up my road bike.

Paul

Hmmm... that is some good reading. Thanks for the link.

Matty in Brooklyn

mattyknacks 04-03-07 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retem
I haven't had a 36h mavic fail me yet my new ride has a 20/24h combo on it and they are super stiff and sturdy 6'4" 220lbs can't go wrong with a quality handbuilt wheel

My other wheelset is a pair of Mavic Speedcity rims with 24 spokes front and back. They seem really strong, but many told me they wont last at my weight. That is why I had the Deep-V's built. I am saving the Speedcity rims for when I lose a few pounds.

Matty in Brooklyn

mattyknacks 04-03-07 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdinger
'tis a beauty.. good work! I really like the look of it, it's the "stealth" look that my MTB also has. Looks like you could jump it off a bridge :D

Thanks man! I was going for that tough "street urban kick butt" look. I figure bikes are like cars: Tall fat guys don't look good in Mini Coopers. :rolleyes:

Matty in Brooklyn

Retem 04-03-07 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattyknacks
My other wheelset is a pair of Mavic Speedcity rims with 24 spokes front and back. They seem really strong, but many told me they wont last at my weight. That is why I had the Deep-V's built. I am saving the Speedcity rims for when I lose a few pounds.

Matty in Brooklyn

surprisingly enough in my case all the mavic factory wheels are solid I am 220# and I know several cross racers that swear by the mavic factory wheels so..

Tom Stormcrowe 04-03-07 06:53 AM

Nice set up on the bike!

Nice boat too!

Apnu 04-03-07 08:58 AM

mattyknacks: how much did those Velocity Deep-V rims set you back?


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